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10 years ago
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I am thinking about giving youtube another try.
I HAD a youtube channel years ago, but I moved to vimeo because youtube did some stupid shit.
5 years later I realize that ALL websites do stupid shit so what difference does it even make anymore.
A few years ago, vimeo redesigned their website and made it "better". In the process, ALL my video descriptions were ERASED.
NOW, they have EDITED my profile info/bio without my knowledge or permission. I had a sentence or 2 in there saying vimeo was "screwed up" and they removed that.
I make my videos so people can see them. Vimeo just never got the traffic youtube has. I see some furries with SEVERAL THOUSAND subscribers on youtube.
I went to see how many I have on vimeo and I have to get a paid membership to get that info. :P
I am showing some videos at AC and after that I might put them on a new youtube channel.
AND HERE IS WHERE I NEED YOUR HELP.
What about copyrighted music? I see tens of thousands of songs and videos of just music on youtube.
But remember "Big Squirrels Get Pied"? https://vimeo.com/89070668
Scooter put that on his youtube and the audio got muted for copyright violation.
EVEN THOUGH it was playing in the background ON A CELL PHONE and Greifer was SINGING OVER IT.
Really? Does Frankie Valli really care if Greifer sings his 50 year old song in the shower?
So what's the trick? What's the secret? Do I need to put some sort of disclaimer in such a video?
Or credit the artist?
Or provide a link to download that song on itunes?
Or get a hand written notarized letter from the ghost of Lawrence Welk?
What will satisfy the youtube gods so that I can share my videos with a larger audience?
Over the years I have had so many people tell me my videos got them into fursuiting.
I want to continue that.
I HAD a youtube channel years ago, but I moved to vimeo because youtube did some stupid shit.
5 years later I realize that ALL websites do stupid shit so what difference does it even make anymore.
A few years ago, vimeo redesigned their website and made it "better". In the process, ALL my video descriptions were ERASED.
NOW, they have EDITED my profile info/bio without my knowledge or permission. I had a sentence or 2 in there saying vimeo was "screwed up" and they removed that.
I make my videos so people can see them. Vimeo just never got the traffic youtube has. I see some furries with SEVERAL THOUSAND subscribers on youtube.
I went to see how many I have on vimeo and I have to get a paid membership to get that info. :P
I am showing some videos at AC and after that I might put them on a new youtube channel.
AND HERE IS WHERE I NEED YOUR HELP.
What about copyrighted music? I see tens of thousands of songs and videos of just music on youtube.
But remember "Big Squirrels Get Pied"? https://vimeo.com/89070668
Scooter put that on his youtube and the audio got muted for copyright violation.
EVEN THOUGH it was playing in the background ON A CELL PHONE and Greifer was SINGING OVER IT.
Really? Does Frankie Valli really care if Greifer sings his 50 year old song in the shower?
So what's the trick? What's the secret? Do I need to put some sort of disclaimer in such a video?
Or credit the artist?
Or provide a link to download that song on itunes?
Or get a hand written notarized letter from the ghost of Lawrence Welk?
What will satisfy the youtube gods so that I can share my videos with a larger audience?
Over the years I have had so many people tell me my videos got them into fursuiting.
I want to continue that.
Again, that's bits and pieces of information I know. It's complicated, but copyright is bullshit anyways.
By the way, Youtube is integrated with Google now, so... you'll likely need a Google+ account. Still free, as far as I know.
Hope this helps, and I hope to see you at AC!
I'll for sure watch you with both of my accounts.
As for the dumbass copyright problem, all I heard is that you have to get in contact with the company or artist to see you have rights for it.
That would be such a hassle to do though to go through ever artist to get the rights.
I personally don't know how you can get away with it. Nowadays it's the new videos that always get removed for copyright reasons.
Pretty picky system if you ask me.
I've used them in just about every video that I've posted on my own Vimeo. And guess what, I'm
at Vimeo because of the same horse s#!t reasons that you're there... Google "fixed" what did not
need to be fixed, making it nearly impossible to have a YouTube account. Like it or not, if you get
a YouTube, you're also getting a Google+, and Google circles, and Google this and Google that....
The problem I see with this is, well, you only need to hack one pass word and all's lost. ALL OF IT!
Vimeo doesn't have the traffic because Vimeo is for adults and artists. It's not for childish garbage.
It's quality over quantity... And if you want to throw the childish garbage in there, it's still allowed.
Here's a few examples of what I did with creative commons on my own videos. I think you'll like'em.
FURFRIGHT-2013: https://vimeo.com/81690833
FURPOCALYPSE-2014: https://vimeo.com/111352768
FURRY BOWLING 2014: https://vimeo.com/96670061
FURRY ARCADE MEET 2015: https://vimeo.com/120346397
BIG BEAR LAKE CAMPING: https://vimeo.com/127005790
The thing is, YouTube got in some serious legal trouble back in 2007, so now they're using an automated process to identify and block copyrighted material so they don't get blamed/sued again. Every video submitted gets automatically run through a "security screen" that attempts to identify all the content used. If there's a match, a number of different things, varying in severity, may happen.
Fortunately, if an audio track or an entire video gets blocked, YouTube provides a somewhat simple form with which you can file a "counterclaim" and defend your content. For example, obvious parodies count as "Fair Use", ergo, Greifer singing "Big Squirrels Get Pied" in the shower is not the copyright violation that YouTube's "Content ID" machine thinks it is. You can (and should) defend it.
(And yes, I've had to use that form myself a few times.)
YouTube now has their own articles about Fair Use here, which you can research if you want more detail: http://www.youtube.com/yt/copyright/fair-use.html
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As for the recent quality of YouTube's comments and commenting system... I'll just say this: Good luck!
Sorry about that, but it'd be nice to have you back on YouTube. I am also careful about what song snippets to use in my videos (I've had a few of my YouTube Poops blocked due to this.)
I'd recommend watching out for songs owned by Warner Music Group or even Sony Music Entertainment. For a while they blocked Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up," this resulting in when we played that song during Musical Chairs at Anthro New England, that part had to be muted when the video of the fursuit games was uploaded there. A small price to pay, but at least you have me to tell you it happened.
The music thing is just a small nitpick with YouTube these days; I still have lots of fun with it!
Plus, it'll be easier for us to show each other's videos on YouTube! :D
Another example; The BBC tends to be protective of The Doctor, as he's a big money maker for them. They probably wouldn't make much of a deal over your use of a short clip of Bill Hartnell, but using most of "Dulce Decem" for your own transformation sequence would probably irk them if they knew.
I understand that you can fool Youtube's copyright scanning software, although I don't know how myself. I think reversing the
polarity of the neutron flow*cough* phase of the soundtrack might help. Best to look it up, though.I think you can also speed up songs a tiny bit or increase the pitch by half a note and then the program youtube uses doesn't recognize the song as copywritten.
I can always just sing all the songs you want to use on ukulele and send it you.