It's your right to turn any of those down. Hopefully people will understand.

Hopefully...

I wonder if they will pay attention to the no and dont part?i hope so.

I have a request that you keep drawing the wonderful art for all of us to enjoy! ^_^

i say this with all due respect, not in judgement. if you find this offensive or unhelpful, please feel free to ignore me.

this kind of ultimatum is a good way to loose new prospects for your market. some people will always pester you because they don't look. i suggest a second account of alternate contact method for private discussions, rather than threatening your possible patrons.

My worry about the "Patreon issue" in general is that it's harder to pick up new fans. The Patreon base will shrink over time.

well their will always be funding programs for small and self-start businesses. this is just the newest and most convenient template. but no matter the business, no matter how big or small; snub your market too much and they will abandon you. the smaller the business, the greater the risk. and if you're trying to increase income, you need to be enticing. loyalty of a customer is more profitable than any template or mass marketing method.

YOU TELL EM MAN!!! no seriously you tell em

I hope you'll still draw your adorable pictures.

I cannot blame you in ANY way for not liking requests and trades. "FREE" stuff doesn't pay the bills and unless you're purposely reaching out to trade with an artist for art you want, well, I've heard from way too many artists most 'trades' are scams as well.

Now while I am forming a great distaste for Patreon and DO indeed think it's evil from a commissioner standpoint, I also can recognize you're an artist that wants to work on your own projects as well (like Forbidden Frontiers which totally deserves its Patreon crowdfunding). While I will personally miss even the chance to commission you through the 'original' channels, you deserve the right to draw what you want and how you want.

People need to accept you're human with the right to relax and do things that are enjoyable to you, not just some drawing robot on the net.

*winghugs*

Best mention you don't do trades/commas/requests in your profile, usually where that kind of thing is out, where people can see easily.
Journal might be replaced later and the info would be unseen.

Totally understandable, I know artists who are leery of trades as well

Pretty much what Xilimyth said! Requests always seemed... a little weird to me. "Can you draw my character?" I can see that happening between people who know each other well, but otherwise it seems to imply that the artist has tons of free time. Do you have tons of free time? I certainly don't. :-D

Trades, I usually felt that should be between artists who know each other. Otherwise... what Xili said.

As for the mention of Patreon, this puts another arrow in the quiver for folks who don't like what the Patreon model has done to the furry art community. I regret that I didn't get in the commission queue when I had the chance; a chance I suppose will never arrive now. ZeusRalo's reply here is a tad bitter, but I certainly understand the angst.

The reason I list commission as no is because there's some commission offer that I dont want to do yet they keep pushing.
I have right to decline any commission offer for any reason.

You might not believe me but I do care about my patrons. But some people just want to be dismissive about Patreon and how it can really helps artist.
Wishing for Patreon to fail is selfish and entitled mindset of some people. They just want artist to draw their character without considering the success of artist career.

I understand some people's commission requests can be very out of line and order and comfort zones (I know from personal experience) but what about those who just want to see their characters drawn in your style, no frills or bells or whistles, just a drawing of their character in a pose, I've always wanted a drawing of my fursona done by you in a way similar to how you drew Varanis' character for example but never had the chance to actually afford it, now that I do have the means to afford it, this journal really disheartens me as it possibly means that I will never be able to realize it and it actually annoys me to be quite honest, it's like saving up for a new pair of shoes only to find out that they've sold out and the manufacturer is no longer making them anymore.

I don't know much about Patreon but I do think the only legit concern about it is people using it to scam money.

again, I have right to decline any commission offer for any reason.
sometime I dont like the design of the character. sometimes I dont like the theme., etc.

By your logic, we need to shut down internet too. because it has child porn on it or something.
It suck that there's people use Patreon to scam money but there's hundreds more legit content creator.

I understand but there's always the case of negotiation, finding a common ground.

I never said anything about child porn, that's just disgusting and one of the reasons I left IB.

I figured a firm "no" list was part of the commission process. Regardless of how much someone -wants- a picture from you, you are always within your rights to just say no. I think only the crazy people would give you grief if you didn't want to fulfill their dicknipple fetish desires, but it doesn't matter what system you choose, crazy people will be a problem. I fear it's just life on the Internet.

I fully believe that you care about your patrons. But with Patreon, here's my personal experience with it for the few artists who I'd signed up to follow:

The Patreon is fairly active at first. Sounds good! Then, one of two things happens. I had one artist who I liked and respected gather up a large Patreon fanbase, and then switched all of his art postings to a higher tier of support after a few months. Naturally, people felt like this was a bait and switch. But usually what happens is the postings just taper off after awhile. Little activity in the Patreon despite the best intentions. But the payments keep processing.

I'm not going to dissuade you from setting up Patreon. But I do want to give a warning about what you might be getting yourself into. Patreon is like always, always being under the thumb of impending commissions. You don't get to -not- draw. You don't get to take a month off. You don't get to just... not feel like posting anything for awhile. Because people are paying money for the service and that creates an obligation. As you might have found with commissions, good will often disappears quickly when money gets involved. At least with commissions you have the option of deciding not to take more commissions. But unless you actually shut off payments for Patreon (is this even a thing? I've never heard of this before)... well, like I said. I've never never heard of you stiffing a commissioner; it just doesn't seem like you. I've known artists who have taken down the Patreon due to the pressure to perform. But the temptation for that steady stream of income without technically -having- to do anything for it led others down a pretty dark path.

You mention "success of artist career," I'm not sure what you mean by it. Development of yourself as an artist? Attempting new styles and character types? Different genres and subjects than people might normally want to see?

Not all artist on patreon neglected their patrons. I'm sorry it happened to artist you respect and support but please dont lump all artist together.
I've never "gate" any of my art. All art that I post on Patreon I also post on DA, FA and Pixiv, depending on content and rating(NSFW) albeit at lower resolution.
And you should also know that artist can set their Patreon as "pay per work" "pay per week(or 2 week)" or "pay per month"
So if you think pay per month is not fair for you, then you should support artist that set their Patreon as pay per work
If you feel I'm quite protective of Patreon because it basically save my career. Yes it does put on some pressure, but I can ask my patrons for a break for one content and working on other content for a change of scenery. If some patron feel that my content is lacking or dissatisfied, they can stop supporting me at anytime, and I would understand. I can't say how many patron satisfied with my content but it seem the amount of support say for itself.

Well... I will say that it sounds like you strike a pretty good balance here.

I have really enjoyed the commissions you have done for me thus far and would be grateful to have that opportunity again! You seemed to enjoy the subject matter (drawing buff otters!) so please do let me know if you are ever interested in doing more! :)

you keep drawing cool stuff and sharing for free your project FF for me is amazing, there is no problem if i can't do an art trade with you o pay you for a comission, good luck mr. pokkuti

Man, that's... I feel bad now.

I really loved the first one you did for me, the commission.

I would've loved to work work with you again, but hey. I understand. I'm just glad you're doing okay for yourself and have shifted your efforts... yeah. Keep rocking.

And I can still be hopeful maybe, you know? =)