If I had Offended you...
10 years ago
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~*♥*❤*♥~Then I am sorry.
I never meant nor wanted to offend anyone over a flag. As many said it's just a piece of cloth with a design on it.
It has multiple views on it. I see it one way. You see it the other way. And they see it this way.
I was told I don't put friends first. When in fact I do. I never wore this flag around friends unless I know they're ok with it. I always ask first if they're ok about the flag. If not I respect them and don't wear or mention of the subject ever again. I never once put this flag before my friends.
I mean.. It's a piece of cloth that I have my options on.. It can't hug me, talk to me, or be there for me.
It flaps in the wind standing for what I believe. And that's bout it. I have always supported this flag outside of the fandom. And I had an old icon that had this flag in it and had it for months without having any trouble about it. Heck I wore this with my fursuit once (I think I have photos of it flying around somewhere) but that was when I was with my friend who was wearing her X too. And no one said something. I tend to hide the X when around bigger crowds to avoid offending people as I hated doing that.
I know what this flag stands for most. I know that the KKK isn't doing this flag any justice. But my views are just views. We had done extra research on this flag and found out ALOT of things on this flag. Things I actually did not know about. But I never seen this flag for slavery or racism.
I had said I will respect you and others of their beliefs and point of views on this flag. And that is what I am doing. Yeah I said my two cents. Replied to most and may have worded my words wrong. I am not the smartest person. Nor know how to word my words correctly.
And I'm pretty sure that is happening now. And again I am sorry if some stuff come off wrong. I don't mean it to come out like that. Some would understand me if they had known me as long as they do. But to those who don't then I hope you find it to respect me as I respect you. It's much easier then arguing are throwing insults at me. :/
I've been Blocked and Unwatched by many. And hurt some people.
All I want to say is this.
I am sorry. I am sorry from the bottom of my heart. I am truly sorry if I have offended you. I do respect you of your decisions and choices. If you had blocked me/unwatched me. I am ok with it. Yeah it hurts me too when I lose friends that I thought would respect me as I respect you. But I do not hate you for doing this.
To those who do respect me. I thank you.
Love you all~
I may disable the comments on the photo I believe I heard everyones views and options on it. I disabled the comments due to things getting alittle out of hand.
I never meant nor wanted to offend anyone over a flag. As many said it's just a piece of cloth with a design on it.
It has multiple views on it. I see it one way. You see it the other way. And they see it this way.
I was told I don't put friends first. When in fact I do. I never wore this flag around friends unless I know they're ok with it. I always ask first if they're ok about the flag. If not I respect them and don't wear or mention of the subject ever again. I never once put this flag before my friends.
I mean.. It's a piece of cloth that I have my options on.. It can't hug me, talk to me, or be there for me.
It flaps in the wind standing for what I believe. And that's bout it. I have always supported this flag outside of the fandom. And I had an old icon that had this flag in it and had it for months without having any trouble about it. Heck I wore this with my fursuit once (I think I have photos of it flying around somewhere) but that was when I was with my friend who was wearing her X too. And no one said something. I tend to hide the X when around bigger crowds to avoid offending people as I hated doing that.
I know what this flag stands for most. I know that the KKK isn't doing this flag any justice. But my views are just views. We had done extra research on this flag and found out ALOT of things on this flag. Things I actually did not know about. But I never seen this flag for slavery or racism.
I had said I will respect you and others of their beliefs and point of views on this flag. And that is what I am doing. Yeah I said my two cents. Replied to most and may have worded my words wrong. I am not the smartest person. Nor know how to word my words correctly.
And I'm pretty sure that is happening now. And again I am sorry if some stuff come off wrong. I don't mean it to come out like that. Some would understand me if they had known me as long as they do. But to those who don't then I hope you find it to respect me as I respect you. It's much easier then arguing are throwing insults at me. :/
I've been Blocked and Unwatched by many. And hurt some people.
All I want to say is this.
I am sorry. I am sorry from the bottom of my heart. I am truly sorry if I have offended you. I do respect you of your decisions and choices. If you had blocked me/unwatched me. I am ok with it. Yeah it hurts me too when I lose friends that I thought would respect me as I respect you. But I do not hate you for doing this.
To those who do respect me. I thank you.
Love you all~
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on your post
and argued you. on YOUR own post
there's a thing of if you don't like it just ignore it, but apparently they couldn't ignore it and just had to insult you and yell at you...on your own post, it wasnt theirs to nag in the first place
and I meant like. she said her 2 cents respectfully, and apologized to some people who were really offended, and even made this journal.
there was no need for people to completely bash her and threaten her, she didn't threaten anyone. I get yelling sure, I get people will be upset, whatever. But an opinion isn't hurting anyone. I get I'm too mellow to really "understand" whats so heated about a flag when there are worse things going on in society (like the whole cop deaths issue) or to understand why people can't just stay respectful and respect other opinions. she didn't force it onto anyone.
Hell I even got yelled for posting an opinion and asking that if someone argues it to just be respectful about it, feelings can get hurt that way.
Especially with everything going on in the world right now.
I am in the middle with it so I'm not either or.
I was born and raised In Georgia. I still live here too.
Like I tell anyone who brings it up, I have too much else to worry with in my own life than about a flag right now, lol, though I do understand the multiple views on it and respect everyone's views on it.
This is America and everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that's mine and you have yours. It does not make either of us right or wrong and many seem to forget that, it's what you do with that opinions that makes it right or wrong.
In this day and age with how people are being coddled and taught, it is nearly impossible to not offend someone for some stupid reason. Heck I honestly believe that if I went to someone and said that I am offended by the word potato then soon potatoes wouldn't be sold in stores or if they were they would not be called potatoes anymore.
People need to grow up when it comes to things they don't like or they are offended by because soon we will get to a day when we can't go outside without offending someone...
Okay I kinda went into a rant there, sorry about that
Well first off I want to say that
And even if I was alive in the 50's I still probably wouldn't have hated that flag because that flag did nothing wrong, it was just used by hellspawn that had the nerve to call themselves people and they got their wretched stigma all over that poor cloth. Again though I say probably because I don't know how I would have been back then, but I do have some idea of how I would have been because I know my family history and I know what they been through and I have written records by a few of them.
In the 50's and 60's, the battle flag was revived in use and flown by those proudly who hated on African-Americans and held them down while beating them. What symbol was burned into your mind when that happened?
The Confederate Battle Flag.
The flag that was flown during battles for the rights of those who wanted secession for the USA and for "this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding States."
The flag represents a lot of pain and torment for a lot of people today and it is STILL being adopted by groups of hate.
Why do people in this post think it's totally okay to downright bash someone for their opinion? Like i totally just sat here and read people complaining about people being rude to you, then in the same breath turn around and talk as if anyone who is offended by this flag being just offended by the most simplest shit?
Let me tell you how that's bullshit.
Okay, it's totally okay for the flag to not affect you. It's totally okay for you to believe it's "just a piece of cloth". That's fine. But I'm honestly tired of everyone acting as if "oh, this thing doesn't bother me, so therefore it ISN'T a bother and other people should be okay with it" while sitting here getting butthurt whenever someone doesn't outright agree with them.
Of course if you're not black and you don't deal with racism, YOU WON'T BE BOTHERED BY RACIST PROPOGANDA. Duh. I mean...duh. I would've thought by now any other race would realize they won't automatically see or care about racist implications towards ANOTHER race. I mean seriously. That's like me going "it's totally okay to say 'cracker' because I'm not white....why are white people offended? It's just a word"
you don't live with it, you won't see how much it sucks, therefore you're unable to relate to it. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist holy crap. Stop acting as if people getting offended by hurtful things is just them being whiny and shit. How utterly backwards is that?
(and i'm using the word 'you' in the general sense in my post...not in a sense of talking directly about the OP)
It's not so easy to take away the racist and painful implications ANYTHING has. If I go around using a bat to beat and terrorize latino children, and I somehow live a hundred years and keep doing this, and get other people to adopt this method and it turns into this huge big thing that is eventually stopped, then of course whenever someone in that demographic sees someone carrying around a bat and acting the same way I did with it is going to have a problem.
Yes, it's a flag. Yes, many flags don't really have any other implications (and to say it's just a piece of cloth baffles me as flags represent a LOT of important things and to rip them of that symbolism and importance would be downright impossible, let's just say the american flag, the pride flag, and any other symbol people use is just a piece of cloth), but THIS flag does and just saying you're going to use it as this, or trying to imply that anyone should view it as just a piece of cloth is NOT going to happen. It's not.
It's the same exact thing people were saying about nazi symbolism. It's the same reason people get up in arms about auctions for those items. And people are using the same line of logic other people use to be able to continue to use racial slurs and other hurtful nonsense. "I use it for this, therefore somehow that negates any negative connatation behind it because everyone who now sees this thing will automatically associate MY meaning to it and not the hundreds of years of nonsense that went behind it. Because shut up."
If people are offended by it, they have EVERY right to be. (this bit is for your commentors). Just because YOU aren't doesn't mean the item is wholly unoffensive. And just as YOU are able to spout your opinion on the matter and not have someone belittle it or act as if your opinion is bullshit, then you shouldn't sit on your high horse acting like people are whining over spilled milk. Holy shit have some compassion.
Now I will say this. I don't think you did what you did to say "fuck you african americans and anyone else offended by this". So I don't think it's okay to be rude to you or call you out of your name. Your opinion should be just as valued as theirs. Whether I agree with you or not does not warrent any insult slinging at all. And I think when people fail to discuss things in an adult manner without slinging needless insults, that's the moment when you can COMPLETELY throw out their argument. They have nothing important to say at that point because they were unable to make their point without being needlessly rude to someone who wasn't directly rude to them.
I can't stop you from sharing beliefs on art sites, all I am saying is that it almost never ends very well. Even if you said that you agreed with it being taken down and that it should not be flown, the reactions would still have been as negative as the ones that you are receiving now, just from different people.
I'm sorry you've had such a negative experience, but don't let it get to you.