Reason Why I'm Not On Patreon.
10 years ago
General
Seem alot of my friends and artist like Red Silver, Pokkuti and Ayanamifan are doing Patreon alot and seem to be making some money into it. First off I have no idea on how to use patreon at all I dont under stand the rules or how to work with it but thats not the main reason why Im not on it at all. Simply put Im living on SSI or state income check and under Understanding Supplemental Security Income law if I had a second income of money saying making money from pateon they will cut off my check and I have no way to paying rant from where Im lving right now in some family home in Utah and if I cant pay rant Ill be homeless. And I have no place to go in Utah, No Friends to stay, all my family members are dead and I have no idea where to go in Utah.
Its just one of many things ill my never be on any cool place like Partron or even having a Pay-Pal account again no saving account seeing I have no real banking. In short I dont think Ill ever life off of getting pay from drawing any of my artwork. Oh well.
What do you think is there any way like me to even have patron knowing that I have no real home to live in in case the state cut off my SSI check and would have to live in a homeless shelter and I dont think I can be online from my bunk bed next to my shoe box of old family photo. Or is there a way for me to make any money out side of the SSI income.
Its just one of many things ill my never be on any cool place like Partron or even having a Pay-Pal account again no saving account seeing I have no real banking. In short I dont think Ill ever life off of getting pay from drawing any of my artwork. Oh well.
What do you think is there any way like me to even have patron knowing that I have no real home to live in in case the state cut off my SSI check and would have to live in a homeless shelter and I dont think I can be online from my bunk bed next to my shoe box of old family photo. Or is there a way for me to make any money out side of the SSI income.
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Your art is amazing. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Personally I don't like the idea of making Patreon because I don't want to make any rewards that would constrain or let people decide what I could or should draw, and I don't like the idea of making Patreon for just tips.
Patreon in few moments create something like wall "Have cash or Dont have cash"
What means if you have casg - herer is all exclusive material and arts what i make for patreon.
And if dont - Hmmmm sorry man...i gonna upload something from time to time...hope you understand...
i seen something like that 2-4 times :/
...and most importantly, it would NOT be used as a pay wall to prevent people from viewing my art, because "fuck you, give me money."
I really dislike how Patreon is being abused. Some artists use it well - giving simple perks like progress sketches, timed exclusivity on pictures or Patron-exclusive livestream events. Then there are artists who use it to pay wall their art, post heavily censored (aka barely visible behind giant "P" logos) thumbnails on their public sites with the oh so "patreon-izing" comment of "if you want to see the full picture, go to my Patreon account and..." (you guessed it) "...FUCK YOU, GIVE ME MONEY!".
I really feel it's a major slap in the face of anyone who supported the artist before they decided that their fanbase mattered as anything other than a resource to make money through pay sites/pay walls. I like to point out to those artists that, without the fanbase that has watched, supported and spread the word to others (thus expanding the fanbase) that without them, there's no way they could make any money off of simple commission work, let alone making a Patreon account... so it's oh so nice of them to lock their content away from their fans unless, of course, they give them what matters to them - money.
And then people find out ways to break Patreon... either cancelling pledges after they get the content or someone making a website to leak the content... so the artists begin flipping their shit, because someone's getting to see their shit for free! OH FUCKING NO! Sure, their "income" is being hurt... but so were their fans that decided to take this course of action in the first place.
Funny thing is that the Patreon users who don't paywall their content barely have a shit to give about sites/actions like this, mainly because it doesn't effect them nearly as much - the final version was going to be shown eventually and those who supported the artist via Patreon did it because they wanted to, not because they needed to.
Anyways, Patreon rant over. I'm sure someone will read this and get pissy... Not really surprised - I tend to have unpopular opinions.
As for your situation, I hope that you can at least make commissions on occasion. I would research to see if it's possible at all to supplement your SSI with odd jobs or not. If so, do what you can. I hope things turn out better for you down the road as well ^-^d
I'm sorry about your family Atariboy.
sorry to hear that man; That's a shame, you'd probably have a ton of customers for paypal commissions if you were able to do that (hell, I was even about to ask if you did them before I read your journal)