I agree with this. =3

Yes, someone who finally knows how to see reality. :v

This is highly debatable :x

bring it on XD

I'm on an iPhone so typing thisvwould be a torture to my fingers to type out q.q

oh screw you and your Iphone! *jealous* x3

lots of people go too far and make their internet lives their primary ones

no difference between "internet life" and life, that was my point

ive heard stories of people contracting AIDS because the beleived they were the animals they pretended to be online, and didnt wear protection, beleiving they couldnt get "human" diseases

internet life is a box with words on it that people wish would be true, and sometimes go to great length to make it true, sure sometimes it works out for the best, but along with the good also comes 4-chan and stalkers.

i sometimes wish i could cut myself off from the internet and be free from it

addiction to the internet is part of the real life, people believing that they are animals and getting aids is sill real... very real~ and hey are "Really" stupid, for "real"~

still real life =p

Well spoke, well spoke.

*applaud*

Well, I guess.

Yo tengo doble personalidad D:

tienes doble personalidad... tanto online com en tu vida diaria~

The only difference is people's stupidity is usually more obvious online. Just look at youtube comments.

people tend to be something they are not online cause they feel "safe" behind their computers =p

FFFuck yes. Very well made point!

la realidad es subjetiva

pero es una sola~

eso es loq ue la hace un poco interesante

I'd argue that the internet can be more "real" than real life.

I certainly know I'm better able to confront others, and less prone to feeling embarassment when showing my art or writing here than to people in real life. That is, deep down, what I believe I am. I don't think the "me" in real life, this young adult named Tyler, is as real as the "me" who is online, a persona named Arion, who is so much more articulate, more easy going, more courageous, than Tyler could ever be. To me, Arion is the "real" me, even if he's just an internet persona.

I think its sad when people think the internet isn't real life. It is. Is it any less "real life" than other forms of communication like phones, texts, snail mail? Is it any less "real life" than other forms of entertainment, like movie theaters, sporting events, etc...? The internet DOES have an affect on people, and I believe it would be naive to think otherwise.

who made Tyler? you did, a real person.

as the real person you are, you would like to be more like your character, and you find it easier to just type and express yourself here... but don't take this wrong, the internet has a "real" effect on you, that's why is easier to communicate online for you!

I think Arion is no different from Tyler (Boy this is starting to sound like I'm aware of split personalities, haha), or rather, they are one and the same, the difference being when I'm Tyler, Arion is tucked away. But you are right. If people were having this discussion in the LGBTT lounge on campus, I'd listen, but I'd be too afraid to say anything when I have the chance to. Here, it's much different.

Boy this sounds like it would be a fun discussion to have with a psychology class. XD

I share your philosophy, although I can see how those who adapt personas that are much different than themselves might not see it that way. But even those who are live out fantasies online that don't cross over into their offline life are indeed still living their "real" lives and affecting real people, just like with any other mode of communication...they are simply choosing to assume a different role while doing so.

indeed, but they are still living "real" lives, they just choose to make up things~

THE TUBES ARE ALIVE!!!
AND THEY'RE RIPPING MY FLESH OFF!!!

Silliness aside..

I agree and disagree with your statement.

I agree, for the reason that the international Network was created as a means to connect to diffrent people, whom have a connection. You can connect to family, friends, and stuff.

I disagree for the simple reason of This.
A lot of people make anonymous names and keep their identity secret from the world, bullshitting about themselves..like that they are a slim blond boy fox, even though they are a middle aged looser 30 year old.
Its easy when your anonymous.

may I ask you... do these 30 years old "losers" go to a different dimension when they happen to go online and do a comment anonymous?


or is it the same like a person doing a comment in a newspaper anonymous....


those events, regardless of what the person said, happen in real life =p

Okay, let me try and put this in another way.

its not reality, cause you cant smack someone for being a dumbfuck over the inernet!
(I thank my ex boyfriend for that one)

that's not 100% truth

but let me ask you then... can you smack the anonymous maker of a book?

but you can touch the book, and see the book, and feeeeel the book, and even lick the book XD! therefore is real~

...Im too tired to try and make sense of that book bit.

Lets just say...
We'd build a awesome fucked up roller coaster together.

NO! I AM RITE! YOU ARE WRONG! END OF THE DISCUSSION! :B

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ADURRRR <3

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"note, if you spam, don't make it long, widewise"

:<...* goes and cries* BULLY!!

You can nerd slap somebody *cough*DDOS*cough*

XB most people arnt that smart to pull that off.
Like moi..hah..

or make funny gifts of them <<

to quote Bender (of Futurama):
"I reject your reality, and replace it with my own!"


This is why more and more I'm retreating to my own head (no...not with drugs!). It's not a pleasant place, by any means, but at least I have SOME control there

control! is part of real life

reality... is only one, your own, indeed~

Ish true! D: Wise Jake tells us all. >.>; the internet is as real as you are!

I can poke you D:! *pokes* see!?

If you honestly believe sitting in front of your computer, not having to go to the trouble of actually interacting physically with people, going out to places and doing things is considered reality ... that's your call.

Internet communities are for cowards. No-one is going to hit you in the face for being a jerk. You don't have to worry about the embarrassment of being rejected by someone. You don't need to worry about your personal hygiene or anything else that comes as part of being in society. There is little chance of rejection because you can reach for a block button. 80% of communication is lost using text-based messaging, allowing you to do / act however you want.

It seems to me that people are mistaking him for suggesting that we all stay on the internet and interact only there.

What he's saying is that the interactions are the net are just as valid as those in 'real' life. A person can be just as fake IRL (taking on personas, lying about their personal life, PUTTING ON COSTUMES AND PRETENDING THEY ARE ANIMALS, etc.), the difference on the internet is that it's a little easier to do. This A person crazy on the internet is just as crazy offline.

The internet is just another means of communication. The connections you have are as meaningful as you let them become. So if you don't trust people on the internet, that's your prerogative. It's just as wise as not trusting strangers you meet on the street. But that doesn't mean all strangers are bad, you just have to be careful.

kind of, but... I am not going against anyone who wears fursuits =/, I am not going against anything here actually, just to make a point that the internet doesn't take you to a fake world, you still in real life, typing on something physical, looking on a screen, if you look around, you still in real life.

and indeed, the first point you made, so true, I am not saying that at all XD

Oh no no! I'm not against fursuiters. X3 The point was that there's people who pretend they're animals in real life too, not just online. :P

And I'm sorry if I put words in your mouth.

fursuits are awesome! I want one myself... I pretend to be a kitty in real life too, ask Ruick, I stalk and pounce XD

Don't take me like an example sir, cause indeed, I have been to everywhere, living reality online and offline, I don't stop living my "real" life all the time.


if you honestly believe that internet communities are exclusively for cowards, that's your call~ after all you are in one.


Jerks, assholes, stupid mindless people and the ones that seek for problems are all over the place indeed, but they are... for real cowards that can trash you "safely" online but that would shut up in real life... this is a "real" little fucker XD

I use the Internet as a communication tool and a collaboration space ... nothing more. Its a tool. And yes, people who spend their lives believing what happens on the Internet is *real* or *heavenly* are cowards. They are too afraid to leave the safe confines of a PC in a warm cozy room and actually go and do something with their life. Life isn't a dress-rehearsal, if you want to spend it in front of a pixellated image that's up to you.

On a side note, if you believe the on-line world to be real, why do you make the distinction between them? Surely the Internet is just an extension of your reality rather than a separate space all together.

what strong opinions, I really hope you are okay with all what you saying.

Don't people make distinction about places all the time? I might say, "I visited Europe, then Asia, and came back here". All three places are in this world, but they're all different.
And when you see a movie, or read a book, you go to another place in your mind. For a while, it's just as real as the place you left. I look at is as a seperate space, more than I do an extension of reality.

*Beagle is confused. -5 exp* D:

finally!

I agree :P

well you can't D:!

I can't aw.......

I really wanted to agree!

gimmie some cookies and I will reconsider

*bakes some brownies*

My exp won't be missing for long! *goes to beat a rock up with a marshmallow to confuse all passer by* >83

cierto es que mucha gente piensa que por un ordenador puede ser como mas seguro de si mismo o cosas asi, lo unico que hacen es engañarse a si mismos dado que no es mas que expresarte de la forma que puedes mediante un pc, si no lo haces igual en la vida real.... no vale de mucho que se diga....
si XD este tema llevo yo aaaaños discutiendolo con amigos mios y siempre me mandan callar por meter demasiadas filosofadas ajajaj

la tarjeta de navidad con el gatito lindo que me mandaste es muy real <3

wot

Can I get some of this powerful shit?

you can't afford it~

I'm sure I can, but I'll go along :>