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Welp, I think I had enough. [RANT]
10 years ago
I thought posting those scat pics is gonna give me a lot of hate.
But in a baffling turn of events, hate came because of something I didn't even engaged in.
For the longest time, I tried really, REALLY hard to be a nice, tolerant person, to stay away from judging people because of who they are or what they beliefs are. I wanted to be diplomatic and not just bash someone just because I disagree with them.
Hate the messege, not the messenger, that sort of thing.
But apparently… that's not enough.
I've suddenly recieved bunch of messeges telling me I'm a horrible person. Why? Because one person I happen to watch (and I didn't even remember watching them, cause they haven't posted anything in a long time) and at some point I commented on their stuff happened to say something dickish that they don't agree with. And I didn't instantly go bash said person. That makes me horrible apparently.
This is not the first time I got snapped at for not picking a side. But this is the straw that broke the camel's back.
So you know what? Fuck it. Fuck all of it. I'm done being nice and diplomatic. Because it doesn't matter to you. If you're trying to drag me into some political bullshit, to force me into joining your side, to engage into smear campaign just because someone said something you don't agree with it at one point, just… fuck off. Unwatch me, remove me from Skype or Steam if you want, whatever.
Fuck, go ahead and make a post about how fucking horrible of a person I am. I don't care anymore.
If not wanting to take sides in drama makes me part of the problem, then so be it.
I'm stressed out as it is already, trying to find a job while savings are shrinking, dealing with family drama, having serious mental health issues because it all. Last thing I need right now is for some pseudo-activists to yell at me for not joining them.
But apparently, I'm not allowed to have problems, because I'm cis white male.
And somehow I'm the bigot here.
Yeah, go ahead, call me a horrible, ignorant, bigoted person just because I don't wanna engage in your political outrage. I don't care anymore. YOU made me stop caring.
You successfully pissed me off.
Good job.
But in a baffling turn of events, hate came because of something I didn't even engaged in.
For the longest time, I tried really, REALLY hard to be a nice, tolerant person, to stay away from judging people because of who they are or what they beliefs are. I wanted to be diplomatic and not just bash someone just because I disagree with them.
Hate the messege, not the messenger, that sort of thing.
But apparently… that's not enough.
I've suddenly recieved bunch of messeges telling me I'm a horrible person. Why? Because one person I happen to watch (and I didn't even remember watching them, cause they haven't posted anything in a long time) and at some point I commented on their stuff happened to say something dickish that they don't agree with. And I didn't instantly go bash said person. That makes me horrible apparently.
This is not the first time I got snapped at for not picking a side. But this is the straw that broke the camel's back.
So you know what? Fuck it. Fuck all of it. I'm done being nice and diplomatic. Because it doesn't matter to you. If you're trying to drag me into some political bullshit, to force me into joining your side, to engage into smear campaign just because someone said something you don't agree with it at one point, just… fuck off. Unwatch me, remove me from Skype or Steam if you want, whatever.
Fuck, go ahead and make a post about how fucking horrible of a person I am. I don't care anymore.
If not wanting to take sides in drama makes me part of the problem, then so be it.
I'm stressed out as it is already, trying to find a job while savings are shrinking, dealing with family drama, having serious mental health issues because it all. Last thing I need right now is for some pseudo-activists to yell at me for not joining them.
But apparently, I'm not allowed to have problems, because I'm cis white male.
And somehow I'm the bigot here.
Yeah, go ahead, call me a horrible, ignorant, bigoted person just because I don't wanna engage in your political outrage. I don't care anymore. YOU made me stop caring.
You successfully pissed me off.
Good job.
Honestly, I support you posting what you like. Fuck haters and all that typical rhetoric.
Also sounds like some sjw bullshit went down, which always sucks.
The situation is:
Someone I happened to watch here on FA at one point said something that caused a massive drama.
Few people sent me messeges saying that if I don't officially distance myself from that person (despite me not being associated with that person in any way other than watching them and commenting on something they made ONCE about a year ago) I'm somehow supporting that.
When I said that I don't wanna get involved in drama, I got accused of being "part of a problem".
I didn't even know about said drama before.
It has nothing to do with those scat pics. I kinda expected to get hate for that, but I didn't.
And yeah, as much as I don't like using that term... it is SJW bullshit.
Hopefully as quick as the sudden rawr fest you're currently slogging through formed. It'll die down. Good luck, not that you need it. It's just always nice to have.
As for the paranoia, I'm no counselor. I had it after Iraq but, every quackenstine I've spoken with told me the same thing, it's your emotion. You have to figure what's the best way to handle it with out resorting to the worst method. Mine was martial arts and meditation. I'm guessing your art grants you a good deal of focus?
At least while you're are drawing it anyways
But yeah, art helps, video games help as well. I thought staying away from sources of drama would help as well, but apparently, those people just want to attack everyone who doesn't 100% agree with them.
As for the haters? Fuck em. Live your life as you want and if they don't like it, they can take a long walk into a short blender and become chum for the fish. (Least then they'd have contributed to the world in some small form)
Still, this whole mentality of "all or nothing" I thought the basis of peace, was built on compromise
Most of those transgender, otherkin, or what ever snowflake they want to be that day are mentality fucked in the head. The bad thing is that they pack up in groups and attack others; the victims become the bully in a sense. They get power in numbers and if you say anything to upset them then you are worse than Hitler. I try to avoid them, but sometimes you just can't. So I make it a point to piss them off the most that I can. It weeds out the weak and pathetic people that only want sympathy. Sometimes one of them will come out agreeing with you or laughing at the non-sense. It is hard nowadays to find a levelheaded tranny, but there are some. Bad thing is the victimhood loving ones will turn on that one and cast it out.
It is a shame of a world we live in. Were once the fight to equality is now a fight to snuff out straight or white or whatever they deem unworthy that day. I am bi polar, but not as much as those crazy people.
I got to know few transgender people myself and all of them are very nice, level-headed people. I think most of them are just as tired of these extremists as we are, because seriously, they do more harm then good.
But I see your point. I just prefer to stay away from all of this. Shame I still end up getting pulled into drama regardless of that.
It's almost as silly as the term 'reverse racism' ... almost makes it sound as if caucasian isn't a race, or something, so prejudice against caucasians isn't quite racism.
Racism is racism, bigotry is bigotry, velocity is velocity.
Words is words. ^^
You and I need to chatter more. I'd at least try and help sooth your stress. <3
If i have to be a demon to feel good..im gonna do it!
Do what feels right for you.
Fuck the rest of them. If people wanna hop on your bandwagon, i say let them! Enjoy the ride!!!!! ...but if they dont! Ehh....just keep doin it anyway!
you got nothing to loose but the haters right? No?
Well just block em.
Damn Furries!
It's just people giving me shit for not taking a stand against someone they disagree with.
Trust me, I've seen it more outside FA and the furry fandom.
But the same rules apply!
"Fuck em"
If people are judging you based on vague inferences with no truth in them, that they've made from what you've done on a furry art site, then they seriously need to get real. They're the sort of sad people whose opinions really don't matter, and need to close their computers and go outside and get a life.
Don't worry about these losers :)
You have succesfully driven off yet another person, who would gladly support most of your causes, if it weren't for your hateful, extremist behaviour.
Good job contributing to the same oppressive dystopia you claim to be fighting against.
The only remote problem i've had was when a person made a picture where they drew themself as the main character in the new thief game, aswell as praised it in the description. Naturaly i felt that people have their right to share teir own opinion. Since i wasn't fond of the game, i kept away from bashing just saying "it suckz how can u like it?!?!?" Instead i explained the issues i had with it and said they did some poor choices with the game.
The artist blocked me, complained i was 'arguing'.
I know people want to keep proffessional about people complaining but at most times it doesn't work. As far as me and my friend sees it, when we bash someone we provoke them to see their mistakes, we want to force them to change for the better, if what they do is wrong that is (like complaining on an artist who has THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH! And can draw what ever they like)
I support you in your thought, arguements are nothing fun, so if someone try to force you into one, just tell them to bugger off.
I learnt something about neutrality from Town of Salem, oddly enough. Neutrals, sadly, get shat on hard when it's discovered they are neutral, even if they start leaning in one direction. The best port of call, unfortunately, is to just stay quiet about the neutrality, and don't actively get involved; they'll both die off into something more manageable later...
I wasn't aware of any of this until I got those messeges.
This is what baffles me.
I thought this was a furry star-trek convention where we can enjoy being furry.
As well that's such a bullshit argument. Someone else has it worse than you so you can't have problems? Then they shouldn't be complaining about the "patriarchy" because there are kids being blown up by landmines around the world or starving to death. Their loss of life is far, FAR more important than any "oppression" that they perceive on themselves with that kinda argument.
Not getting involved in such drama is actually a good thing, hell, if it doesn't affect you personally it's best to not try and shove yourself into it. Make a statement if it's important enough that you think you need to make one and that's it. Really, this perception you have to bend to other's wills and appease them is the same sort of selfish shit that has things as bad as they are in so many areas.
If I had to ask, you're probably a nice person and because of that, it seem like they get pick on more. I just think you have one of those giant fan bases that like you drawing the same thing kinda consistently.
If you really like doing it, then keep doing it. Or at least put a warning thumbnail on it.
or submit to the pressure and stop drawing scat.
[you only have two options :D ]
I didn't get hate because of scat art, which is why I was suprised.
I got hate because of something completely different, something I had no idea about in the first place.
Which is even weirder, I think.
My reply meant nothing. XD
And honestly why should you be surprised about not really getting much or any hate over the scat thing? I mean pretty much all your watchers are into digestion or these types of stuff. We are weird but that's why we watch your stuff. It's always good to try new things so you made the right call ;)
loss of words but yeah idiots every corner
And concerning SJW/PC: I don't like it. But, people need to learn that "respect" does NOT equal "PC" either. The two terms get blurred so often that it pisses me off.
I'm sorry you had to deal with whatever happened, but all I can figure is apathy and ignorance isn't necessarily a good route to go. However, you did voice how you felt about what was going on, and that's certainly a good thing. You can't always ignore the problem, because it won't go away. I tried to ignore bullies. Shit didn't work a lick, but I knew I couldn't fight back, because I'd get in trouble. Speaking up, though, made them go away, at least it worked for me. It may not work for everyone, though.
Society is funny that way. Anyway, keep doing what you do, enjoy what you like, talk with whoever you want, but if something rubs you the wrong way, get it off your chest. It helps to talk XP
I've seen a lot of cases concerning "feminism", which hurts feminists, rather than strengthens them.
One is just outright hateful and violent, the other relies on making women look like victims to gain people's sympathy. But all they do is make it worse. I actually consider the second option worse, since it makes us seem like we're weak, like we need to be coddled and protected from the rest of the world. Screw that.
Sorry to hear that, Raz. I hope things get better for you, online and offline, soon. S:
Keeping your head down, uninvolved, and staying neutral is the best way to avoid this still, but that doesn't mean you won't occasionally get hit by a bit of ricochet or scatter from one of those fanatics' trench guns. They aim to do damage, and shotguns are very damaging, so you'll have to squeeze a bit of birdshot out of your arm sooner or later.
I'm sorry they happened to hit you when you were already down in so many other ways though, but just lookit all these people swarming to support you! We know you're nice, or at least nice enough, so ya got that goin for ya. ^_^
And yeah, that 'privileged white person' thing is really wearing thin on me too.
Also, it amuses me how many people posting here didn't seem to actually read the journal, immediately jumping on the scat thing. Oh well, they mean well at least.
Good luck.
Also glad no one is giving you shit (no pun intended) over those images. I don't care for them myself but to each their own, we're all into odd stuff after all. x3
Also may try to poke you more on skype, I'm really terrible at that.
You didn't know, so you didn't support. If you're not supporting anything, you're not against anything WHICH MEANS
YOU. ARE NOT. INVOLVED!
Don't let some douchebag who can't allow themselves to be offended ever make you into a bitter person!
You're too good for that Razor!
ULTRA Satan?! I know Mega Satan, but ULTRA?
That's some edgy shit, bro! :P
True, it's important to be a decent person, to know what's going on and what you're talking about, but you simply cannot prove anything to idiots and there's no point in trying beyond a first attempt.
But like all things this will pass, and as you can see you are not alone.
Its just the most recent version of the whole oppression olympics mentality where you can't ever just be upset because things suck for you because they suck worse for someone else.
But to me I think your should be glad you got this off your chest in this journel.
There are some people nowdays that are like those that you hate so much.
Anyways as a friend Im here for you mate :3
However, I am not sure as why people would literally go as far as to persecute you after because of this... or anything else for that matter. Just block them? S'not like you had the obligation to justify yourself, really.
These people have flat out said that white people are inherently racist unless they admit that they are racist.
The Salem Witches just called, they're suing you for plagiarism.
Just block every single one of these retards that harass you. There's no reason for you to take this shit.
I personally, for subjective reasons, didn't like the scat pic since it didn't conform to what I'm looking for
in a fetish piece. But I'm not such a butt hurt crybaby cunt waffle that got upset because of a fetish I didn't like.
More so the little shitbird who sent you that message has no fucking life. There's no automated process or easy way to
find who is watching who. This person either scoured your "watching" list or the other guy's "watchers" list.
These people actively go looking for something to bitch about so they can stand on their fucking soapbox and pass judgment
so they can feel the tiniest bit of power in miserable lives.
Also, just incase someone reads this and is actually miserable enough to search through my watches to prove I'm a hypocrite because I don't watch Razor, I'll save you some time.
I'm watching him on an alternate account for vore, so don't even try.
I'm saying this ahead of time because these little cretins like to play the "gotcha game."
You have every single reason to be pissed off, man. Just block the little shits.