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10 years ago
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So I got around to watching an episode...eh.
I'm doing my best not to look at things with nostalgia glasses but the whole thing just felt so hollow. I'm not mad that it's humanizing and putting an older franchise into a more adult light, it's just that it's weirdly forcing characters into stereotypical slots, when they're already based on stereotypes.
The bit that bothers me the most is Kermit. I don't give a shit about the whole Miss Piggy/Kermit break up thing, sort of. The fact they broke up isn't surprising. She's a diva, that was the joke of her character, and it's reasonable that if you tried to make that realistic that's a pretty terrible relationship but...it's just...weird that this is a central feature of the show. It's weird that part of the premise is kermit is an overworked executive trying to work with his lunatic ex...and it's just...so hollow.
It feels like they just took a popular format, just 30 rock meets the office, and then stuck popular characters in it in a show that would otherwise be another spiritless knock off.
The Kermit part really bothers me because he was always such an optimist. Yeah he had to keep these characters together, and often had to save the group from failure, but it was always with this enduring hope. You could always see that part of him that was a humble frog singing about dreams in a swamp.
Now it's just another guy trying to make it in "the biz". It's not that one character type is greater than the other, there's a lot of redemption in that character hat grinds away but finds something at the end of the day...it's just strange to go from one to the other.
I tried not to put nostalgia into it, but it is uncomfortable to go up with a character, so full of light, so optimistic, telling you to work hard and dream big. Then as an adult to just see him grinding out a difficult job, getting frustrated and even vindictive at times. What happened to you Kermit? Where are your dreams now?
It's like this show unwittingly made the greatest metaphor for the media treatment of millenial viewers. An offering of dreams and ambitions only to be met with an adult reality that is spiritless and just fulfilling a formula.
So what do you guys think? I can see why some people like it. It is funny in some ways. It is like 30 rock meets the office. it's just...I personally can't get away from what the characters were I guess.
I'm doing my best not to look at things with nostalgia glasses but the whole thing just felt so hollow. I'm not mad that it's humanizing and putting an older franchise into a more adult light, it's just that it's weirdly forcing characters into stereotypical slots, when they're already based on stereotypes.
The bit that bothers me the most is Kermit. I don't give a shit about the whole Miss Piggy/Kermit break up thing, sort of. The fact they broke up isn't surprising. She's a diva, that was the joke of her character, and it's reasonable that if you tried to make that realistic that's a pretty terrible relationship but...it's just...weird that this is a central feature of the show. It's weird that part of the premise is kermit is an overworked executive trying to work with his lunatic ex...and it's just...so hollow.
It feels like they just took a popular format, just 30 rock meets the office, and then stuck popular characters in it in a show that would otherwise be another spiritless knock off.
The Kermit part really bothers me because he was always such an optimist. Yeah he had to keep these characters together, and often had to save the group from failure, but it was always with this enduring hope. You could always see that part of him that was a humble frog singing about dreams in a swamp.
Now it's just another guy trying to make it in "the biz". It's not that one character type is greater than the other, there's a lot of redemption in that character hat grinds away but finds something at the end of the day...it's just strange to go from one to the other.
I tried not to put nostalgia into it, but it is uncomfortable to go up with a character, so full of light, so optimistic, telling you to work hard and dream big. Then as an adult to just see him grinding out a difficult job, getting frustrated and even vindictive at times. What happened to you Kermit? Where are your dreams now?
It's like this show unwittingly made the greatest metaphor for the media treatment of millenial viewers. An offering of dreams and ambitions only to be met with an adult reality that is spiritless and just fulfilling a formula.
So what do you guys think? I can see why some people like it. It is funny in some ways. It is like 30 rock meets the office. it's just...I personally can't get away from what the characters were I guess.
Some revisions can be good such as My Little Pony (Shut up, my daughter liked the show you judgmental dicks!) was way better than any other incarnation of the show (which was originally meant to sell toys). It's just a matter of who's vision is driving the characters in my opinion.
From what I'm hearing the reboot has more of a modern 'sitcom' formula akin to the Offices, Community, and Parks And Recreation then it's roots as a variety show.
It's easier to stick with what you already have in stock & aesthetically change it. XB
Scenes from a Multiverse is right that the Muppets are dead, and we're watching their re-animated corpses.
I still yet to see the new version, was at a con so missed the first ep.
I like to give it a try, but not sure if I will like it or not for the reason
of knowing them as a kid growing up.
I grew up watching the Muppets So I can really identify with what you said here.
The world has changed. I can't help but wonder if the new Muppets reflects the current reality.
While I'm at work I often think about this journal.