A game that works lol

I kinda disagree I like the speed I mean that's one of the reasons I liked Sonic generations I didn't think it was bouncy or uncountable when I play it but that's just mean. I'd like to see more 2D Sonic games though.

And to make more Sonic games good is for Sega to get it's shit together, stop being paranoid and stick to a good idea instead of flip flipping to every idea they can think of.


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For me it was Sonic CD. I haven't played it, but I heard the Chaotix game for the 32X was pretty good.

Sonic generations was alright, except the very retarded cut scenes and story, the gmae itself was enjoyable. They should get rid of stupid characters like shadow or silver...They can add humans but not realistic ones.

As for the game...2.5D like klonoa or pandemonium on PSX

sonic cd was the best sonic game, hands down

Put the series out of its misery is the only way to fix it.

you coudl go back to the old ones and play Sonic Heroes =) for the age, the game had surprisingly MARVELOUS backgrounds that got me staring at nothing for long periods of time xD

I am a Sonic fan. And it was a disgraceful day when Sonic Boom was born.

My top 5 games were as followed :

Sonic Heroes
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic and the black knight
Sonic and the secret rings
Sonic adventure DX

It's sad that Mario' s long time rival and friend is running by crappy business men who think cash before fans.

Money may fuel fire, but it is the air that breaths life into the flame, and spread the warmth to the character's world. That's why we have fans.

Sonic adventure 2 Battle was a good game. Had mostly good Sonic stages and Shadow stages were cool.

I also liked Sonic Colors. It's a good game that used high speed but was very forgiving with reflexes.

The Rush series on the DS. The mobile games aren't half-bad, but they're what's keeping the series alive these days. Sonic Dash was pretty much fitting for Sonic as it was an endless running kinda game people could play really quickly on breaks or while riding somewhere.

There's no real "fix" persay, Sonic Boom being envisioned as a sort of re-imagining of the series is okay. The show is decent for its target audience, but the games are just plain horrible. XD

Sonic 4: Episode 1 and 2 were good starts, but then they just never got around to making an episode 3 or anything. They always focused on what made his games good: speed, level design, music, boss battles, etc. Freedom Planet is a good spiritual successor to the series in a way because of that.

Until that moment comes, at least we got glorious Sonic R34. :D

I actually agree with you and Sonic has had a decent track record lately. Lost Worlds on Wii U was an alright game, just it didn't quite feel like a Sonic game and I don't mean because of the lack of extreme speed. The games that featured the super quick pace I enjoyed when they properly designed the levels for them. Like Generations. Although, the reason it became was joke was because of its decline with 2006 (at least that's where I remember that really dark spot beginning). Heroes felt like a slog and yea, even before that not every one was super amazing. But, I can say that with certainty the developers never wanted the series to stay the same and they always wanted to keep trying new things. They said that themselves and they actually do learn from their mistakes, even if it's more than one.

There's good and bad stuff from both sides of the proverbial border of their generations. Maybe some of it just isn't for you is all, but no matter what there's a good deal of positive experiences. I feel like Sonic Lost Worlds on Wii U was the last good one I touched on. I may get to finish it soon, but I saw most of it played and I liked what I saw. Sonic 4 was doing alright, except it wasn't popular enough so they never capped it off with the third and final episode. Also, the games aren't always bad because of the developers, I mostly blame the fans. Because the fans on the whole are almost never satisfied.

He needs to stick to being a cartoon.
Sonic Boom, the cartoon is just great!

Or stick to 2D, some games don't work as well adding a new dimension.

Sonic was never fun for me, unfortunatelly. Cuz I used to like him as a mascot a lot. I always sucked at his game, had a hard time controlling him and would always end up falling in a weirdly placed endless pit of death or inescapably deep water trap.

I also kind of liked to think of him as a non-speaking mascot. Whenever he started speaking hit me as increasingly awkward, desperate and uncomfortable. Specially when suddenly there were people in his cutesy mascot world.

I never really liked Sonic games. The emphasis on momentum just made precision platforming more difficult, especially considering how zoomed in the screen always was.

Not a fan of 2d platforming games anyway.

I got the Sonic Collections game or w/e it was called for the DS was...okay. I disliked the limited view, though, as it felt like ass trying to make certain jumps. Not to mention the non-linear movement through some of the levels got me confused more often than not.

Sonic Generations...I liked the 3d sections for the SPEED in the modern stages more than anything else, but especially being able to SEE WHERE IM GOING.

From a design standpoint, Sonic's never exactly had its shit totally together. Even the 2D games had issues reconciling the emphasis on speed and momentum with player reaction time and level layout.

The 3D games have suffered for a long time under this "good enough" problem, where their first attempt at defining what Sonic is in 3D served as the mold for subsequent titles. That first attempt was very unenlightened in terms of what to do exactly with that extra axis of movement; you see levels that desperately want to be in 2D, full of boost pads and springs and static setpieces you get to watch Sonic traverse while otherwise more or less just trying to stick to a path with controls of wildly inconsistent fidelity.

Everything has been about being "in 3D" while constraining the player away from actually functioning in 3D, because they didn't know how to make a 3D Sonic game, weren't sure what they wanted it to be, and stopped trying to evolve after their first attempts.

What they changed was mostly gimmicks or themes rather than core gameplay. It seemed like they were starting to modernize and figure this concept out with Colors, Generations, and Lost World, but each time they've poked at the core gameplay, they haven't seemed to let anything good stick.

I'd say they need to take a hard look at what a Sonic game in 3D should look and feel like and iterate intelligently, building a good game rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater every single time they step up to the plate.

Oh, and maybe trying to depart from Sonic's roots as a marketing ploy would help.

I dont know, I was used to love Sonic, Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 so much as a child.
Played it all the time with my brother. I guess I was more of a fan of the SNES where it was 2D and you could
have two player fun with your older brother. Nowdays its just all bleh and 3D-ish, with annoying stages.
It kinda ruined it for me... I miss the concept bosses(where you had to think if you ever wanted to take them down)
and marvelous, plain yet interesting adventures with emerald collecting.

Generations was the last good game honestly. Lost World was ok...and...we dont talk about Boom.

WE NEVER. TALK.

ABOUT.

BOOM.

Sonic Advance on the GBA i greatly liked that game from the classic style ( for the gba ) and the great music

the last game i play of sonic was Rush and Generation, Sega needs to do 4 things, Make it Speed and Tact, going fast but being able to have the reflexes to dodge stuff, Reduce the Quantity of characters and improve the Quality of the characters. number 3, Make the plot simple yet interesting. (it's not easy but it can be done) and lastly, stop trying to apply to everyone its just impossible to do that and make somthing decent. Its about focus.

For me the last great Sonic game that I got to play was Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I never got my hands on Sonic CD back in the day. And it's been sitting in my Steam library backlog.

As for what I think they need to do to make a good "next gen" Sonic game is to embrace an open world sandbox level design. They'd need to be sprawling, so it'd probably be better to have a singular overworld split up into various zones with smaller enclosed spaces where Sonic wouldn't be able to make full use of his speed. Sort of a mash-up of spectacle fighter with a heavy helping of freeform acrobatic means of traversing locations. Some free-running/parkour esque elements, like running along or up walls, but needing inertial momentum to maintain contact with surfaces (with power-up's and equip-able items that make it easier). And a "speed time" effect for when Sonic's at maximum speed and momentum.

Controls could be fairly simple but deep and complex at the same time. Jump--nuff said. Agility/Boost/Dodge--a quick boost in the direction you're facing, or direction change in the direction you're turning. Spin--Staple of Sonic's moves since Sonic 2, sharply increases momentum and acceleration while moving at the expense of drastically increased turning radius. And Strike--basic attacks and combos, using in conjunction with other controls performs a variety of other basic attacks/combo openers, and finishers (Becomes a context action in certain areas where combat doesn't take place). Can have a lock-on and crouch with shoulder buttons.

All actions can be used in conjunction with other controls, ex: Jump, Boost = Boost Jump/Kickflip--you're basic directional double-jump. Strike/strike combo, Boost+direction away from baddie = Hit target, then rebound off them either to create distance, or to rebound into another target. Boost, Strike = A lunging opener to a speed combo. Fastest normal movement across terrain, Spin, Boost (at max momentum) = Gotta Go Faster, break the sound barrier and enter "Speed Time", a generous, but limited bullet-time effect where the world slows down around Sonic as he reaches top speed, useful for crossing large distances, special rush, flurry, and high impact attacks can be used.

They won't ever make it, but hopes keep us alive when they aren't being horribly crushed under the jackboots of reality!