Fan art can make people suicidal?

Dude, Fanfiction turns people into murderers

the fan art turned the fans into a mob who made the artist suicidal. they both sound incredibly weak and easily influenced to me so i dont care tbh, its just worrying for the future of humanity and makes me feel like everything is potentially offensive to someone.


i just dont have the energy to work around weak people's feelings

It's unbelievable; I watched a video where a guy, who was talking about this incident, had SJWs threatening to rape his son, and kill him in front of his family. How did we go from encouraging cultural sensitive pronouns to threatening to rape a guy's child?

Followers of Randi Harper and Shanley Kane are no fucking better.

The deandra icon hits this home >u<

I know right its so fitting for the message here xD

i stepped into a blogging website to post my art and got a punch of pussies is more like it lmao.

Use tumblr for porn and nothing else. Here is a guide to tumblr community: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2m-e4PgiVfM

lol, vagin-abled.

Also feminism takes a trip down the road of being made into a joke further. In 2014, it was a big year for it but 2 events come to mind that proved how almost no one takes the word seriously anymore:

1. The fact that some found Anaconda by Nicki Minaj as something positive for women. I heard the song and I got nothing positive at all there.
2. They thought a song called Literally I Can't was pushing rape culture forward. It was just a dumb party song by Redfoo, Lil Jon and some unknowns.

I dont have a problem with feminism at all, i have a problem with RADICAL people who push their cause by using unsourced information and demonizing others. That goes for feminism or any other movement.

+5000 respect points for this statement.

It feel like no one have common courtesy towards one another on internet. I don't tell people to stop watching straight porn when i don't like it. I just don't look at that stuff on the net. Than again people could being using this sensitivity to just be dick to one another on the net.
Also, I can't read your post without thinking of deandra saying it all. lol

the deandra voice makes EVERYTHING better

Word.

And the worst part is, these easily offended people are everywhere. Video game community, furry community, literature, academia ( especially universities), basically any group or community you can think of.

What's also funny is, they are the most sexist and racist people I have ever met on the planet. They rather have people hired for the color of their skin and/or genitals other than work ethic because of the "straight white male patriarchy" or some stupid shit like that.

We truly love in crazy times.

yeah. i dont refuse to budge, but im still gonna call people retards if they're being retards. being 100% politically correct makes for a boring world

And thank goodness ^^ just keep at it dude.

glad too see i'm not the only one who's noticed this.

from halloween costumes being too offensive

to a school in Sweden refusing to call people male or female only using gender neutral terms

so fucking stupid.

People constantly try to deny the realities of sex and gender. and personally i do enjoy gender bending in art and fashion ect

but at a certain point it gets out of hand and you cant expect the whole world to comply with your unique worldview

Heard about this shit a few days back and I agree that it's completely ridiculous. It's even MORE ridiculous that the creators of the show got dragged into the mess as well.

People these days need to learn when to take a step back and chill, turning inane shit like this into such a big deal.

Well there are people around the world who get offended/upset by videos of someone killing a tick (I mean sure, it was a rather bizarre way to kill it, but hey. Ticks are dicks), so...
No comment on the Steven Universe thing, though (I only use the tumblr for one purpose).

Wait, what's wrong with Steven Universe? Never mind, I never really get to watch the show that much. But I think it's great, and I don't really get what's wrong with it. Or are you referring to the fandom?


And I get what you're saying. I've been to Tumblr a lot before. I've been lucky to follow blogs who've had minimal to no overly-sensitive posts, but even then I see the occasional sjw posts. Heck, pretty sure even before Tumblr existed, there were already overly-sensitive people on other websites (YouTube and DeviantArt come to mind), and basically a lot of other fandoms too.

im referring to a specific incident that happened within the SU fandom

It's the rabid fandom Nikko is referring to.

Just recently, there was an artist who received a fuckton of harassment from the psychotic portion of the fandom and it caused her to attempt suicide.

The artist had been accused of a litany of flawed portrayals of characters, including perpetuating “racism/stereotyping, transmisogyny/transphobia, apologism, incest, pedophilia, fatphobia, and ableism” in her art. For example, when Zamii drew a Japanese character from the popular anime Yowamushi Pedal, she came under fire for giving the character yellow skin and slanted eyes; when she drew a black character, she came under fire for removing her Afro and giving her blonde hair; when she drew a “Native American Fluttershy” from My Little Pony, the response was mixed and often critical, pointing out that she had further stereotyped the character.

She's recovering, but the whole thing is the result of the special snowflake SJW crowd on Tumblr.

Rabid SJW fans have also plagued Jeph Jaques from the webcomic Questionable Content, in which he was receiving massive amounts of harassment because he didn't draw a character "fat enough", to the point he drank an entire bottle of whiskey and stabbed his drawing hand.

This is why I always say that I "enjoy" something, not that I'm a "fan" of something.
Fandoms ultimately ruin what they love the most, and the utter psychotic fans give the sane fans a bad rep, and I won't have my name associated with that crazy bullshit.

Here here! It seems to me that these days people are just looking for reasons to be insulted. Grow some thicker skin and accept that not everything you hear will be to your liking. Unless something is blatantly offensive or derogatory then what does it matter.

Ah, SJWs! You gotta love them! :D

>:I

Seriously, they'll find anything offensive in anything just to sate their boredom. They think they're helping the people they're fighting for when they're actually hurting them.  tariah23 recently posted a journal saying how she got rude messages related to her posting a picture of two genderswapped male characters as females. The rude anons were saying how drawing genderbent characters is transphobic and such. Where the heck do they get their logic from?!

I too fear for our own and the future generation.

Can't be helped, if it's a site on the Internet, drama always finds its way to it, though to be fair, sometimes valid criticisms can arise from those situations.

I'm seeing some drama here on FA lately, too, people closing their notes and comment sections and whatnot because of it (or because of small things, so I really don't get it).

Only thing sensitive bout me is my butthole ;)

I noticed that, quiiiite a lot <- had quite a few fellas butthurt due to a silly comment

Funnier fact is, people on my country seem to be so ewsy to get butthurt as well, nowadays people arre hella sensitive...even to jokes! wtf...

Tumblr, in my opinion, is the internet condensed. You don't find many normal people on there, you just find the most socially inept, far swinging, and reactionary fools on there on one side and the rest is just geek stuff and porn. It's really a toxic environment.

Some people just get too obsessed on perfection that they go apeshit on someone else's interpretation and style.

Social justice is still very important. I was raised to respect and value it. But at the same time, there are also ways to offer people criticism without being uncivil or bullying. The anonymous viral nature of the internet brings out the online disinhibition effect in all different kinds of people.

I honestly believe that these people have yet to experience just how these social injustices actually look in real life, but they still identify with oppressed groups and social identities, so they latch onto things that are only borderline a problem and blow it up. For example how light a shade of brown qualifies as "Black" and "Black enough", or how colloquial sentences like "Hey dude" erases feminine identities or is just a refusal to acknowledge transsexual identities.
While these subjects are very interesting to discuss, they latch onto them so vehemently, that they become all they can focus on. They must fight these "inequalities" with all means necessary. Which simply just creates an incredibly toxic enviroment, where - instead of actual discussion and progress - it is just people attacking each other in the name of some overzealous fanaticism.

It is very sad to see, because actual communication is exactly what brings down walls, but these individuals are simply fortifying them and building them higher.

right, and i think that it greatly affects the comedy world too. Everything they say has to be so carefully analyzed and scrutinized that people are afraid to express what they really think or act like themselves. In a world where everyone has to consider al of everyone's potential feelings, nobody has personality.

"Internet was once meant to be a weapon", is this what they meant, lol?

I can't call myself someone ABOVE of being offended, but shit happens,
It's a scraped knee, not your whole leg.

I'm scared of how communication will EXIST in future generations if art blogs and TV shows
send people into war and witch-hunts over headcanons. How will newspapers work then?

How you deal with these guys, Nikko? It's a legit curiosity coming from another artist. After all, if these guys are everywhere, they
are here too, supporting your art, and maybe mine too one day.

honestly if someone over reacts to something i say or do i laugh at them and tell them to chill the fuck out, and if they persist and get malicious there's a handy block feature

I won't say I'm familiar with the incident in question, but you do realize that regardless of if it's online or offline, a horde of people harassing you with threats and insults will have an impact, right? It's not always just "oh lol get over it qq." If it's someone already in an unstable place, it can prompt a bad reaction, and it's not always their fault for it.

As I said I don't know what happened that you're talking about, but dismissing harassment isn't going to make people feel better, it's going to make them repress and eventually either explode or turn into a completely desensitized and apathetic drone. There's a difference between having thick skin and being a ticking time bomb of unstable emotions.

the fact is more people are ticking time bombs than in the past, and the things that can set people off tend to be minuscule in comparison of real world problems. society is too internalized and protecting people's feelings has become prioritized over common sense. sometimes you really do have to just DEAL with your feelings, you cant expect the rest of the world to conform to your needs. its not a matter of having a thick skin, its a matter of survival.

Yes, and more people are like that because the "get over it" mentality has made them so. Mental and emotional pain are just as real an issue as physical pain, but for a long time, repression, apathy, and ignoring social issues was the standard tactic advised, and it's gotten us where we are now. The entire point of ticking time bombs is that even the tiniest thing can make them blow, because they've just been pushed that far by everything else. It's not entirely a problem of people being unable to cope, but of being dismissed when they're forced to cope with something completely asinine.

We didn't have the Internet until fairly recently in history, and people abuse the hell out of anonymity (including what they simply perceive as anonymity) in order to antagonize each other because they think it's safe to do, and an acceptable behavior. It's still human-to-human interaction, whether it's textual or not. It's sad that so many have lost sight of that for their own amusement at others's misery.

It's important to be able to process how you feel and cope — that's not anything I'm arguing against, and is in fact the opposite of the repression I've been condemning — and there will, unfortunately, be people who will try to pick on you for stupid things, but that doesn't make them right for doing so, and it's not something that should be condoned. It doesn't matter what side you're on, either; threats, stalking, doxxing… Bleh.


For the record, since it seemed to have come up when I was skimming the other comments: I abhor the self-entitled, so-called "activists" who view bigotry as only existing when it's directed toward them, or as if hating someone in a majority group purely because they're in that group is somehow better or a good thing in comparison to hating someone in a minority group for the same reason. Hatred is hatred, and bias is bias, no matter how you try to rationalize it. They've tainted the very notion of what it means to be an activist or a supporter of human equality — they use it as a cover for their own bigotries, so that anyone who disagrees with them can then be branded as the real bigot by anyone unaware.

I also abhor the people who try to find bigotry in anything they can and immediately turn on the fire alarm when they think there's even a chance they could make the connection. They, too, taint what it means to actually criticize bigotry and bias. While I support the notion of recognizing those issues, and willingness to be critically analytical of things to that end, they undermine that process by attempting to apply it to anything they happen to dislike, or anything that happens to something they like.

also WALL OF TEXT FEAR MY ABILITY TO TYPE QUICKLY

My issue is that people are so quick to shut down from minor intangible threats like insults and empty threats made over the internet. in this case it was more extreme but ive seen people react similarly to even less threatening things. I dont think i need to feel sympathetic over someone who chooses to take their life because someone said something mean over the internet. to me thats the same as natural selection. im not going to belittle the struggles of suicidal people who have legitimate problems in their lives, but for the people who get upset over insults on the fucking internet? Thats where i draw the line. The strong willed are the people who are going to survive, you cant expect positive reinforcement from strangers off the internet, so you shouldnt expect it ON the internet.

Calling the suicide of people in an incredibly volatile mental state (as evidenced by the fact that they would try to commit suicide in the first place) "natural selection" is rather counter to then saying you aren't going to belittle the pain of depression and suicidal thoughts in people dealing with those issues. When you are sincerely at that point, things like harassment can push you over the edge, whether it be online or offline. Dehumanizing the Internet only continues the cycle. Mental illness along those lines is very severe and very debilitating, and a lot of people aren't getting the help they need because of the stigmas associated with it making you "weak."

Why can't you expect positivity on the Internet? Why does negativity have to be the norm? In truth, it doesn't need to be. Of course you don't have to offer your shoulder to anyone you come across with a sad story to tell, but saying "that's just how it is" when it comes to the sheer animosity people spew is the same as telling Timmy to get over it when he comes home with a broken arm. Humans are social animals; how we are treated in a social environment affects us, and denying that only leads to more issues.

Yes but again, wishful thinking vs how the world actually is.

My opinions are my opinions, i dont feel like going back and forth about this. The internet is too dramatic given the intangible blob that it is and almost every problem can be solved by turning it off or blocking someone.

Meh, the world is how we make it. I've never been the type to view anything as being unchangeable. Hell, if folks did, we'd be a lot worse off than we already are, haha

Fair enough. I don't feel you have an entirely healthy view on some aspects of this topic, but we also have some common ground in it, which is something I'm thankful for.

Hope you have a good day/evening/whatever time it is wherever you are. :)

same to you~