How do you improve as an artist?
10 years ago
Hi guys
I'm really curious about other's people experience in evolving as an artist (any kind)
Do you generally seek help, or try to evolve by yourself?
I try to seek any and every help I can find, but put in as much effort into evolving by myself as I can. I seek online courses I can afford, seek help of the big artists, use art forums, ask opinions, ask for red-lines all the time; in the same time I keep coming up with new techniques and ways by myself and essentially make every new painting an experimental piece. Whiiiiich admittedly goes into the problem of inconsistency... but I wouldn't be where I am without it U_U
Is there any specific learning technique you use?
I like to push myself beyond my comfort zone all the time; if I feel safe and confident, or even just have an idea of what I'm doing; it's wrong. So I don't think of anything, or something completely irrelevant, and let my hands so stuff - and if it doesn't look right, I over-paint it instead of erasing it. I usually find some sort of use or sense in my randomness later.
I always try to put everything into numbers and treat this whole thing as an RPG; so much that sometimes when I learn a new technique or just feel like I improved I can't help it but see a huge glowing "level up" text above my head, I even have a unique sound effect to go with it (yes I'm deep into the darkness of gaming). Like when I studied Veramundis's art, I definitely felt that way, and I can still see the change it made in my works. D:
So do you guys have anything like that?
I'm really curious about other's people experience in evolving as an artist (any kind)
Do you generally seek help, or try to evolve by yourself?
I try to seek any and every help I can find, but put in as much effort into evolving by myself as I can. I seek online courses I can afford, seek help of the big artists, use art forums, ask opinions, ask for red-lines all the time; in the same time I keep coming up with new techniques and ways by myself and essentially make every new painting an experimental piece. Whiiiiich admittedly goes into the problem of inconsistency... but I wouldn't be where I am without it U_U
Is there any specific learning technique you use?
I like to push myself beyond my comfort zone all the time; if I feel safe and confident, or even just have an idea of what I'm doing; it's wrong. So I don't think of anything, or something completely irrelevant, and let my hands so stuff - and if it doesn't look right, I over-paint it instead of erasing it. I usually find some sort of use or sense in my randomness later.
I always try to put everything into numbers and treat this whole thing as an RPG; so much that sometimes when I learn a new technique or just feel like I improved I can't help it but see a huge glowing "level up" text above my head, I even have a unique sound effect to go with it (yes I'm deep into the darkness of gaming). Like when I studied Veramundis's art, I definitely felt that way, and I can still see the change it made in my works. D:
So do you guys have anything like that?
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I search for tutorials and guides, reference pictures, figure drawings. I look at stuff that's inspiring and try to wonder how they did it (like your stuff hot damn!)
I actually am trying to figure out how to loosen up, because I am so rigid when drawing. I am incapable of painting because my mind is so incredibly set on what it wants it to look like so I just do the old sketch/lines/color over and over again.
Experimenting and trying new things, drawing different themes and overall expanding in perspective is probably the best way to learn, at least in my experience.
(also thank you for watching me it's such a huge honor aaaaah)
I have pretty much learned most of subtractive synthesis purely by experimentation.
On the other hand, there are some really huge topics in music (like harmony or mixing) which are just so vast that I wouldn't even have an idea where to start trying. In such cases, my growing library of books about music production is my best friend. When I first jump into a topic, I don't really try to get deep right from the beginning though. I would rather just read the entire book as fast as I can, so I have an image in my head about what to start experimenting with and try as much as I can in practice... and then go back and dive more into the details, by re-reading the book slower and practicing the techniques separately.
Online courses are great in ways that they give me inspiration and through the assignments a sort of measure about how much I managed to learn. Sometimes I pick up an online course and do only the exams and assignments, without checking any of the course materials up front. This gives me a good idea on which areas I still have to work on.
On a different note, I always prefer a kind of learning that gives me some sort of instant gratification. That makes all the inevitable grind waaay easier. On the guitar, one of the first things I learned was improvising with a very simple pattern of 4 notes... just to make very simple melodies. And I was having fun with that for a while... but then it became boring, so I learned the scale around those 4 notes... then I learned that scale over the entire neck, step by step... but with each step, I could pull out more and more fun from playing. It was still sort of a grind, where I had to practice every day and keep adding more and more stuff in progressively... but the kind of grind where you have more and more fun as you progress and see yourself progressing.
Lately I started to reproduce some poses directly with ink, and sometimes by keeping the point of the pen on the paper. It's very frustrating if you can't stand failing even a sketch (it's my case saldy u_u) but it remains a good exercice. A friend does it and the way she draws charcaters in direct inking is astonishing, in my opinion.
And you probably already do it, but taking influences in artists you're interested in, and whose graphic universe is completely different than what you're used to do/see is also a good way to improve ^^
I usually don't notice art progress if it is steady and gradual. But there are always points in time where suddenly there is a huge spike of improvement at once. More like a pokemon evolution than a level up for me :P
My main way is to watch thousands of artists over different websites (particularly 1300 on FA). As I look at other people's artworks, I deconstruct it and mentally ask myself why does it look good, what works, how did they achieve that effect, what could I use in the future. It isn't always the supreme artists with 15 years professional experience. Sometimes I learn something amazing from someone who has been drawing for 2-3 years and has just got a handle on shading.
I frequent livestreams while doing things. Ask questions and watch on. Try to work out the thought processes. Ask questions as needed.
Advice. I throw WIPs around like an old man feeding ducks. Sometimes people have some really instructive feedback, other times they may just drop an art-changing idea. Don't do it as much as I should, but I sometimes ask for redlines/paintovers if I believe the person would have valuable input and be able to drastically improve the work. I like to continue painting over someone's redline or paintover. That way I will see every detail they changed closely and intimately. And it is something slightly different to render over.
Playing with as many resources as possible. I like to become at least mildly versed in a wide range of different media and styles. I download hundreds of brushes, make my own brushes, view tutorials (and attempt a few), attempt masters studies, take photos of random things that could be used, eat paint, download PDFs and buy art books etc.
Study. Whether it is a 6 week freehand drawing workshop with a 30 year veteran or staring at youtube videos for half a day, it is always a huge help hearing the advice you didn't know you needed.
Things I should do:
-practice sketching speed and economy of brush strokes
-daily art journal which could be a sketch or a little speedpaint
-keep layers to a minimum (or single layer)
-learn to rest xD
-redraw some older artwork
-stop commenting on akitary's posts and continue drawing
Testing new ways or things, so you learn something new.
The recent drawings from photos worked really well.
Something I've noticed a lot is that a lot of artists get stale by not trying new things and sticking with 'what works', slowly their art degrades and they start overlooking grave errors.
Ad the same time I've also seen artists who don't give a damn, try new styles, and somehow manage to integrate it into their current style to make it look even more awesome. And I absolutely love it when I'm able to notice these things.
.......Okay fine I also tend to observe things in reality by habit and remember shapes, accenting lines, folds, etc. I don't practice anywhere near how much I should, so I don't think I would improve as much if I didn't do things like that. I don't think it works for everyone, but it works for me. I pay attention more to the design aspects and stuff when I watch movies than the actual stories, too. I just pick apart my visuals a lot and it somehow helps me later when I'm drawing.
I do feel hella stagnant, though. Practice is always a good idea, I suppose.
Doing some realism studies will help or even redrawing another artist's piece as a study of their style is a very good thing to do. Many professional artists who went to some art school have had to effectively recreate the masterpieces of old. By reproducing a work you learn something from that artist and it gives you new skills to add to your repertoire.
Tutorials will help, so will actual classes, doing studies on your own, getting some instruction books. All of these can be big helps in improving as an artist overall.
This might be a good playlist to watch:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?li.....S6YO3NSC-aYc1i