honestly i hate cars (but love them too). My TCS and ABS lights both just came on and stayed on as we left BK (which is 2 minutes from my house...T_T). I haven't felt any changes whatsoever and the tcs doesn't have an indicator light on the damn little button for me to know if its on or off.....arrrrrrgh. Mom says brakes could just be wet and hubs never notices anything if its having issues or not (except for the squeak when idle and the damn clanking from spare tire housing being loose in the trunk.) I'm just done with shit. I thought everything was on a steady and even keel and going along swimmingly.....FUCK A DUCK.