Not really a furry movie, just a disney movie. (BTW you can have your opinion on it, but just know that alot of people, non-furs and furs, enjoyed it for what it is)

"Animated animal" movie, then. I dunno. Same stuff, different day. X3

I'll Agree to disagree on this then, I guess

You realise you're comparing different people's experience sets as if they were the same thing.

I can't comment on his experiences, but I know for me, having seen a LOT of movies over the years, most movies are painfully predictable and cliche. I tend not to find a movie enjoyable simply because of one feature - but because of the whole thing. I enjoyed Deadpool, for example, because it may be the first superhero movie that actually does a good job of being a 'comic on screen' and because I've been following it for years and knew that Ryan Reynolds is a huge Deadpool fan - and it shows - you just GET that he wants this to really be Deadpool.

For me, most Disney movies have recurring problems (not saying Zootopia has them - I've not seen it yet): overuse of musical pieces, even when they literally make no sense and break up the narrative, antiquated morals and yet at the same time, a penchant towards political correctness, very strange view of women and ethnic groups and when they're outright doing classic literature - they tend to butcher the story in strange.. strange.. ways.

Case in point: Disney's Hercules. Let's recap his 'story' in the movie. He's a child of two 'alien god-like beings' who is sent to Earth to avoid a danger. He is found as a baby by a farm couple and is adopted and raised to be good. As he grows older, he realises that his abilities are far beyond normal people and seeks out why he's different only to discover he's not really a human. He sets out for the big city to find his destiny and meets a strong-willed, independent woman with whom he falls in love. He then has to deal with a villain and regular attacks.

Sound familiar? It should - because it's not Hercules. That's Superman.

That's not to say all Disney movies are bad - Lilo and Stitch is surprisingly well written and is a good solid story. Tron:Revolution (the TV series) was brilliant. But enough of Disney's work is so bizarrely derivative and often just.. bizarre, that I tend to assume the worst until shown to be wrong with their movies.

The fact that a lot of people *like* Zootopia doesn't influence me at all. A lot of people like a lot of really bad things (Trump anyone? Fox News?) I know I'm already having some apprehension over some of the details I've heard about the storyline. I'm sure the animation will be good and the characters cliche stereotypes and 90% of furry fandom will either be cosplaying characters or doing Rule 34 of them within the next month.

And guess what?

That's ok. It's EXACTLY as ok as Wolfie not being blown away by it. It's EXACTLY as ok as my being apprehensive about it. We're all different - we all have different buttons that get pushed by different things. Diversity is good.

Oh. one other thought - Tomorrowland - a Disney movie that basically was a promo piece for one of their theme parks.. WAS a brilliant movie with an exceptional message and even had a trap built in for the kind of critics the movie suggests are the problem. It's a movie I should have hated - but in fact loved.

So, no - one size does not fit all. :)

Again agree to disagree with you and him, but I respect your opinion on the matterand leave it on that

ive yet to see itLOL feel free to tackle

I agree, its not a furry movie in the slightest, from what I saw it was your typical disney movie. in other words, an awesome movie with a untypical message spoken in a typical fashion :3

"Women should be free to aspire to anything they want to be"

How exactly is that 'untypical' (actually the word you want is 'atypical' but hey). That's been a recurring theme in Disney movies since the 1950s. It's a pretty common theme in most kids movies today.

Or what was the message YOU took away from it?

It's not just about sexism, but racism, fear-mongering, dehumanization and otherness, and while there have been movies that have tackled this material before, it's uncommonly grave and challenging territory for an animated film, especially given these kinds of issues still remain prevalent and relevant in our society and deserve to be put under a microscope.

and the award for "he totes gets it" is...Leonardo DeCaprio...I mean, Rynden "Steve Harvey face"

Good points, most animated films get called out if you bring up racism and other real world situations

All these subjects just feel like "been there, done that" countless times over to me when it comes to fiction in general. X3

Also, if you haven't even seen it yet, don't you think arguing about what its message and merits may or may not be might be premature?

Ooh! This was predicable! </sincerity>

Welcome to the world of Hype Backlash!

Prepare your flame shield, mighty wolf rebel!

But seriously, it's okay that you just found the movie as "meh". Not everyone's gonna love it for what it is. At least you're not acting belligerent about it. ^^

I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't give it a final verdict. x3

Oh, and don't change Sleazy's appearance because of this movie!

Nnnngh. X3

I guess for the sake of comparison, we should ask: What's a recent animated movie you really liked?

'When Marnie Was There' was pretty fantastic. Probably my favorite animated film of the past couple years.

Ah, then I presume you also liked "Only Yesterday"? [That recent Studio Ghibli re-release. I think that's the title.]

Have you seen "The Boy and the Beast"?

I did enjoy Only Yesterday as well. Lovely film.

And I have yet to see Boy and the Beast. :0