Hey all,

 foxwolfgoof here.

I've had an idea in the back of my head for awhile. I've wanted to refine it further before posting it here, but I had a friend send a message to me last night that made me realize it was time to speak up.


So, this is it, without proofreading, without editing. It's straight out of my message to my friend.

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I realized that there is infinite space for God to exist awhile ago.

One theory of the universe is that it's finite and expanding at the speed of light. We will never reach the edge of it. It's possible and likely that our universe is spreading out like a drop of water, thinning out until it'll be so thin it won't even be 'wet' - the heat death of the universe.

However, there are forms of matter and energy we don't understand. We may one day, but there's a really foolish assumption made by human beings that we can comprehend everything in the universe.

It's manifest everywhere on this world that we're the result of Darwinian evolution. It isn't 'adaptation' as defended by certain groups that literally interpret the Bible - it's full blown evolution. Genetic potential's readily apparent in our dog breeds. I've written algorithms that use evolution to solve programming problems that couldn't be solved iteratively (by checking all possible solutions) if every atom in the known universe (10^80) was a computer making 10,000,000 tries a second for the entire age of the universe thus far (13.7 billion years, or 4.32*10^14 seconds). Multiply them all together and there's a BIG number. The programs that simulate evolution solve the problems in 45 minutes on a desktop computer.

The observed universe is about 5.5*10^23 miles in diameter (I believe?) Earth is about 7900 miles in diameter Meaning Earth occupies 1.4*10^-18% of the observed universe.

We evolved as a highly specific solution to a problem posed by biology. in a corner of the universe so small it's even less significant than a speck of dust in the corner of a warehouse. Pretending that our understanding that grew out of such a remote corner of the universe could expand to, well, everything...that's foolish.


Let's talk about putting God into a box. Mathematically we can draw a rectangle on paper and say that it represents everything that ever was, is, and will be. It represents infinity to infinity. Every possibility exists in this box.

It's the universal set.

Then we can draw a circle in a corner of the box and say that circle represents everything that humans can experience.

And in that circle we can draw another smaller circle that is everything that humans can imagine.

And in the circle of things we can imagine we can draw a circle that is everything that humans can observe.


My belief is that religion rejects parts of what we can observe and know as true in order to protect doctrine that keeps people in power.

My belief is also that atheism and possibly agnosticism reject parts of what humans can imagine.

Both religion and areligion reject parts of the human experience and thus deprive us of part of ourselves. The universe is far greater than what we can understand. Somewhere out there in the universal set is something we could call God. What shape and form it takes is beyond me. I just trust it's benevolent because if it isn't we're sort of sunk.

So, I'm spiritual but not religious. There's too much math out there that suggests we aren't important enough to decide what is 'natural' and what couldn't possibly be!

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Q.E.D., Q.F.D.,
~QBF