question to more popular artists:
9 years ago
I know this is strange and might not really have a right or wrong answer… but fellow artists, what do you say/do when people get too personal? I have 5+ people from the past year who are getting too close for comfort and.. I don’t want to be mean?? But I don’t know what to do when people act like they know me and they’re best friends with me when in reality they just… like my art..
God this sounds so douchey, cause wow!! I’m a small artist, but I have somehow gotten some fans over the years, wow! But also.. I don’t know how to really tell people to back off without being a jerk?? A few months ago I politely asked to stop asking to join my games and private servers and he went on a twitter rant about how mean and horrible I am… when in reality I just didn’t. Know this person. And he was acting like we knew each other for years.
Heck at this point I’ve had a few people getting me gifts and asking for my address to send it too and just.. it’s too much… I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to be mean but also I don’t want to keep trying to please everyone when I’m actually quite uncomfortable.
I really hope this isn't coming off as pretentious or rude, I truly do appreciate the amount of attention my art has started getting in the past few years, wow! And I am by no means saying that I am a "popular" artist, I just wanted to ask for some advice
FA+

I'm sorry you're stuck dealing with this stuff, it's never fun to handle; and if you've got anymore questions do not hesitate to ask, please. I hate seeing folks get caught in this junk.
Mine isnt the only right answer, but the best way to put it is like being acquaintances, people who get along and just enjoy your art and are nice people. As much as we would want to, it's definately hard to make friends with absolutely everyone or else it would get overwhelming.
This isn't about being like "Oh they're being cliquish cause they're popufur." It's more about we're being friends with who we get along well with like having things in common, exchanging a good conversation like exchanging a tennis ball back and forth across a tennis court.
the best thing I'd probably say is if they get too personal its better to tell the truth about it cause if you let it build then they'll get more upset. but at least let them know. you probably should also clean out your friends list so they dont keep joining you.
It is tough to deal with and its not fun to see this stuff happen :c
WalkiTalki also brought up some good points, hopefully this helps
Just ignore them
But since you remind me a lot of me for being worried about it, by advice is thus:
I'm not super popular or anything - I'm a decentishly well known artist, but not big by any means. You don't need to be popular to run into people who are being intrusive or creepy (whether they mean to be or not). I've also had issues like this, and I think the problem is when you're very open to your commenters and watchers, there will always be people who take knowing you online as being your good friends and feeling entitled to be closer. They don't do it to be malicious, because they feel like they do know you and like what they see, so they want to be part of your life. Comments are lovely, interactions with watchers and people online are fun! Art is about sharing and community here, so it can seem daunting to set boundaries. And I'm sure many of them are lovely people and would be great friends, and knowing they're very real people out in real life makes it feel SO hard to be assertive.
But being assertive is not being mean. What you can do is just say "I'm really glad you appreciate my art and your support means a lot to me!" when people ask for invites or your skype or telegram, or to join your games. You can answer their questions by not answering them if it's a longer message of how are you's and then an asking at the end. But if people aren't getting the hint, just tell them. Say I'm not comfortable with sharing that information, or that it's for close friends, etc, and reinforce that they're happy they like your art. There's this misnomer (especially with us women) that being assertive means you're a bitch or are rude. And that's not true, though unfortunately society likes to portray that. It's something I struggle with a lot as well, so I definitely sympathize.
There will always be people who are offended, and that's unfortunately something you have to deal with. If they get that bad, ignore them. Report them on whatever media if it's malicious or a callout and they don't allow that on that site. If you're worried about business and not addressing it, just explain it and take a screenshot so they can't lie about it. Make it a public, simple statement and block the person. DO NOT ENGAGE IN ARGUING because it causes drama and normally only makes it worse. Address it, move on.
The best way is to just put your foot down. Don't be apologetic, don't tiptoe around it. Tell them you're glad they like your art, but these things/this information/these events are for close friends and put your foot down. You aren't mean for it! People sometimes just don't understand boundaries, especially on a site/fandom that is known for being so open. But that doesn't mean you need to feel embarrassed or bad for telling people firmly and nicely to stop.
edit: Also, if you have any information anywhere that's public (like your skype, telegram, or usernames for gaming platforms, just remove them and don't accept random invites). That's what I started doing and it really cut down on the amounts of times I felt put off or uncomfortable with having to tell people no.
That said, a couple of my best online friends have come from them just commissioning me a bunch.
I do see him still talking about me to his friends in shouts here on FA and even had a fursona made that has similar colors to mine, but if anyone would ever want the real story, they can PM me; most who follow or know me know im as sweet as pie, but I also dont tolerate being harassed and stalked to a point of not wanting to log into FA every day, which is my place of business.
On the flipside I made quite a good friend in one chap I commissioned, but then he initiated the contact and likes to use being commissioned as an opportunity to meet new people
like there are times where commissioners and clients click, and there are moments where they just don't. And you can't really force that when it doesn't
I guess you can try putting on your most plain and tactful hat and tell the people in question your feelings on the matter. Perhaps some of them are a touch oblivious or generally a bit lacking in self-awareness. Someone I watch had a bit of an issue with a particular guy who didn't seem quite all there in the head replying with samey comments on every new piece, but having this pointed out to them managed to get the point across and caused them to shush.
I find that a lot of artists fall into the trap of accepting invites from random fans when they feel alone. In that situation, the artist becomes vulnerable enough to talk about their personal problems to the fans they added on instant messengers. This gives the fan a false sense of, "This person must really trust me if they're reaching out to me like this. That must mean we're friends!" It then becomes this really awkward "Papyrus-y" situation where the fan you confided in assumes they're BFFs with you now. In comes the constant messages and lack of personal space, and the rest you're familiar with by now.
As for how to deal with that, the first thing is to be careful not to confide in people you barely know. When you find yourself feeling vulnerable, it's better to confide in close friends instead. As for how to turn down those who want to get closer, be firm in your resolve to say, "I appreciate your kindness, but you're getting too involved in my personal affairs." That way it's clear that you're not brushing them off, it's just that you need to be alone. Some people (such as myself) also get way too wrapped up in helping others. In that case, just tell them they've done their part and that you don't need their help anymore.
The rest is just common sense on the fan's part. It's up to them to understand and respect your personal boundaries. There's no need to be apologetic about that.
I would say that if you feel *unsafe*, block, ignore, run away, you don't owe anybody ANYTHING and anyone who thinks that they are entitled to your attention has a problem. The problem is not with you.
If you feel *uncomfortable*, it might be useful to tell the person very directly, "Whether you intend to or not, you are making me uncomfortable. Please do not do [X] any more." If they run off to badmouth you everywhere, again, the problem is with them, and not you. Block the living daylights out of them in whatever way you can and turn away. A cool person would be like, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to!" and back off.
You might be able to redirect the gift-givers to something online-only, such as a paypal tip jar... If someone is just trying to be nice, they'll understand that asking for an address can potentially be an invasion of privacy, and will scale back to something that involves no personal info, like tipping you with paypal or making you giftart or something. And of course, if you don't want gifts you always have the right to refuse them!