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Any other libs getting a perverse pleasure out of this? haha
9 years ago
I been telling liberals and democrats for months that they're being foolish thinking trump can't win. I was telling democrats during the primary that clinton is a DISASTER of a candidate in the making, even during the primary 75% of the people who were planning to vote for her said they didn't trust her iirc. The only reason she even made it as far as she did is because both parties managed to get the biggest turd they could muster as their chosen one somehow. No matter who was gonna lose this they were going to go down in history as being the most inept candidate ever who squandered the easiest election ever.
The perverse pleasure comes from of course the supposed to be neutral DNC putting their thumb on the scale for somebody they knew would toe the donor corporatist line, even though it was obvious people are sick of the fucking line. Meanwhile sanders, the most liked member of congress who even his sworn ideological enemies poll saying he's a trustworthy genuine guy puts up a helluva fight from absolute obscurity, actually energizes the hell out of the base, polls as a FAR tougher opponent in simulated elections than hillary against ALL of the republicans and a guy who raked in the independents from both teh right and the left and the DNC slanders his enormous and important base as sexists, bernie bros, slanders them as violent chair throwers in made up nonsense. They sick everything they got against him while pretending to be neutral (Wikileaks has of course demonstrated this is true). THen they FIRE the woman who was responsible when she's caught...who is promptly hired by hillary. She might as well have just walked up to ever sanders supporter and liberal wing of the democrat party member and personally spit in their eye.
The perverse pleasure doesn't of course come from trump winning. Trump's a blithering idiot. But it comes from the DNC bringing this on themselves and pissing away the most winnable election in history, and i really hope they learn from it.
I just hope this is the slap in the face the democratic party needs to wake the fuck up, look in a mirror and see what they've become. A much needed reformation of the democratic party into ya know, a left leaning party as opposed to left of the republicans (Which isn't left at all.) might be worth taking the bullet of 4 years of trump.
All i know is I personally wouldn't have won with either candidate being an actual liberal, and the democrats absolutely deserved to lose. Both sides deserved to lose but of course somebody has to win.
As one of those rare gun fanatic liberals, i lose and win a bit no matter which way this could have gone. If anybody was going to further chip away at my gun rights it's probably hillary, but first and foremost i support science and reason, and anybody else who does lost BIG tonight. And you can thank the democrats for that.
EDIT: Oh yeah, tons of porn coming soon. I been drawing a ton, just not posting. I'm backed up pretty bad here. Gonna get do a flood really soon.
The perverse pleasure comes from of course the supposed to be neutral DNC putting their thumb on the scale for somebody they knew would toe the donor corporatist line, even though it was obvious people are sick of the fucking line. Meanwhile sanders, the most liked member of congress who even his sworn ideological enemies poll saying he's a trustworthy genuine guy puts up a helluva fight from absolute obscurity, actually energizes the hell out of the base, polls as a FAR tougher opponent in simulated elections than hillary against ALL of the republicans and a guy who raked in the independents from both teh right and the left and the DNC slanders his enormous and important base as sexists, bernie bros, slanders them as violent chair throwers in made up nonsense. They sick everything they got against him while pretending to be neutral (Wikileaks has of course demonstrated this is true). THen they FIRE the woman who was responsible when she's caught...who is promptly hired by hillary. She might as well have just walked up to ever sanders supporter and liberal wing of the democrat party member and personally spit in their eye.
The perverse pleasure doesn't of course come from trump winning. Trump's a blithering idiot. But it comes from the DNC bringing this on themselves and pissing away the most winnable election in history, and i really hope they learn from it.
I just hope this is the slap in the face the democratic party needs to wake the fuck up, look in a mirror and see what they've become. A much needed reformation of the democratic party into ya know, a left leaning party as opposed to left of the republicans (Which isn't left at all.) might be worth taking the bullet of 4 years of trump.
All i know is I personally wouldn't have won with either candidate being an actual liberal, and the democrats absolutely deserved to lose. Both sides deserved to lose but of course somebody has to win.
As one of those rare gun fanatic liberals, i lose and win a bit no matter which way this could have gone. If anybody was going to further chip away at my gun rights it's probably hillary, but first and foremost i support science and reason, and anybody else who does lost BIG tonight. And you can thank the democrats for that.
EDIT: Oh yeah, tons of porn coming soon. I been drawing a ton, just not posting. I'm backed up pretty bad here. Gonna get do a flood really soon.
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and i really hope they learn from it.
They won't. Guarantee they'll make a thousand excuses and run an even *more* pro-establishment, right-wing candidate next time. People in power don't learn because they don't let their bubble get burst. I'll bet you next cycle it'll be worse, we'll not only get someone worse than Clinton for a nominee, but the "lesson" the DNC will learn in that time is, "Don't email as much, delete emails immediately, don't get hacked this time". Instead of, "hey let's nominate someone who the voters want to vote for".
I remember all the laughably fake pandering ads of 2014 with democrats holding bibles and shit and waving guns around. They keep losing and thinking "Oh shit we gotta go right!". I mean, they put orward hillary who lobbied for TPP 45 times......to campaign partially on a platform of being opposed to the TPP.
They have utterly no respect for their voting base, they're (I generally find myself having to vote democrat but i don't at all identify as one.) just these annoying people who have their own self interests they gotta deal with every couple of years to get back to scratching each others backs. Never was more obvious too.
Love your art and looking forward to seeing more.
Now we sit back and see if this was a good choice or not... Just like any other election.
NOTHING meaningful good can come of this.
THough i wouldn't complain if he somehow repealed the NFA lol.
Might as well get something good out of this shit show.
At least there is some silver lining... Or is it orange now?
Oh gawd!
The visuals... Do not want! X_x
Nah I think Putin is the top. I mean he rides bears without wearing a shirt. Trump got pecked by an eagle and he was wearing a full suit.
Especially if there is no big issue in the way of getting a federal carry license. A background check and some training should be it. Maybe even have a provision to allow for standard-cap mags as well for gunban states like cali and such.
I"m not thrilled, i had a choice between another step deeper into neoliberal shit, and a guy that's downright dangerously stupid. I'll take competent and self interested over dangerous and stupid any day.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees that the Democratic party is becoming nearly indistinguishable from the Republican party when it comes to economics.
I've also been telling anyone that would listen for the past few months that a Trump victory is a real possibility. Every time people tried to discount him, he pulled upsets and surprises out of nowhere. The General Election was no different. I will admit to personally being duped just like everyone else by the polls —every single one— that had Clinton winning by a very high percentage. Places like FiveThirtyEight have been completely blind sighted. Every single model they came up with has been turned on their heads, and their credibility in statistics (if there can ever be such a thing) will never be the same again.
I was with the Sanders camp from the outset. Throughout the entire spectacle that was the DNC primary, I knew that people up at the top were pulling the strings to try to ensure that he couldn't win. "He's a Socialist," they said, "he would never do as well as a 'safe' candidate like Clinton." That kind of rhetoric got Clinton to win against an impressively popular candidate who embodied true progressive values, and who was not completely shaken by scandals throughout his years. When he lost because of that rhetoric, I revoked my own registration as a democrat and placed myself into that lonely camp of independent voters.
I wonder how long the amusement will last though. The presidency is a powerful position in the world arena. We haven't had a loose cannon in office since Reagan, and he was a pretty big regressive disaster for the USA. I just hope he and his majorities in congress don't get an opportunity to regress us too much. That really is my biggest concern.
But when i saw the media going down on sanders SO hard with just laughably obvious bullshit and just complete disingenuous nonsense i knew something was up. The washington post ran what? like 30 hit pieces on bernie in a week? It was CLEARLY an organized hit effort.
And i'm amused. Trump ran the most hilariously fact free hyperbolic and racist campaign ever that mostly consisted of childish name calling. THe guy didn't know fucking anything about anything. The republicans were FREAKING saying "This racism isn't us! That's not the GOP!!".
Meanwhile a childish namecalling campaign utterly defeats the perfectly coiffed media trained plastic paint by numbers career politician, and the guy that was so racist he couldn't represent the GOP brings him in like flies on shit lol.
It is morbidly amusing.
I feel like I'm gonna need to stock up on some whiskey though. It seems to make things more amusing.
His choices in the economic realm could not have foreseen the repeal of Glass-Steagall a decade after his presidency OR the birth of the Internet.
I do still think exactly what multiple people who worked for him have been saying since he got in the race. That this whole thing was just his latest con and that he didn't want to win, he just wanted to do a publicity stunt to raise his business profile, and that the people who voted for him in the primary were just suckers who fell for it because they were too lazy to see that a few years ago he was a fricking democrat who wanted universal healthcare and has always praised the democrats.
THen i think he fell ass backwards into a position with momentum because hillary was just SO laughably terrible of a candidate.
Unless like he fell ass backwards into the presidency, he falls ass backwards into the most peaceful 4 years in american history, he's going to realize very fast how in over his head he is.
When i say i'm taking a perverse joy in it, i say it in the context of it being done now and over with. Plus in the context of if the democratic party has two brains to rub together between them, they'll realize that people don't want corporatist neoliberal conservative fucking fiscal policy in a democrat. If they want to vote for a republican they'll vote for a republican, not the republican lite.
And till we get an actual leftist president, we're never going to have a healthcare system even remotely humane. I just hope that the republicans remember how many people use the ACA now and how stupid people are, and how they won't think abou the fact they're going to lose access to healthcare till it's gone. They have expressed their fear of the aca being that once people use it, they're not going to want to give it up.
The problem is that she was a terrible candidate, nobody trusted her, nobody was excited for her, nobody wanted her, and she was the consummate establishment politician, and the more people learned about what she did behind the scenes, the more they realized it, and this included her opposition.
She was FAR more useful at firing up her opposition than she was her reluctant "Well she's the lesser of two evils" "supporters.".
People were able to look the other way with trump's insane lies and corruption and lawlessness because it came down to a race between two corrupt lawless liars. And trump just was a much better liar. He told his cult fucking everything they want to hear no matter how hilariously implausible or vague.
Also didn't help that he was such a shit show the media simply covered him non stop. Every day was "What stupid thing did trump say/do today."
If you don't know how the electoral college works, just look it up. It's pretty well documented and pretty broken. There's a good dozen or so recorded instances were they literally voted differently from their states and one case were someone even just wrote in a vote for a candidate that wasn't on the ballot.
Trump's ultra bellicose statements about war like "bombing the shit" out of the Middle East, outright stealing Iraq's oil, and his intimation to want U.S. troops behave like terrorists and behead Muslim POWs in order to be "tougher" is not how I envisioned the USA acting in 2017 and beyond.
Sanders would have wiped the floor with Trump, but it didn't happen. Now we have a crazy man leading us into likely disaster.
Trump is a disaster, but the fact the democrats made the pants on head stupid decision to put somebody up against him that tit for tat can be criticized for the same shit he can be pretty much made it a wash in most peoples minds, then they just come down to who's more "genuine", with his laughably nonexitent filtering, that set up trump as something different and down to earth.
Throw in the fact he's not got decades of baggage as a political chrony, then he comes off as "an outsider" mainly because the people that voted for him are too lazy to google him and see the decades of political corruption he's been ensconced in his whole adult life.
THen there's bernie, who has been saying the same shit his whole life and is an outsider, and doesn't have any of that baggage, no scandals, no corruption, no bribes, nothing. Trump would have come off as a monster compared to bernie, hillary just came off as the other monster running against trump.
I honestly believe in the long term this could change things for the better.
Neoliberalism and conservatism are just us sliding slowly into the shitter as we have been since reagan. Till neoliberalism is soundly rejected, things aren't gonna get any better.
Conservatives are such fucking disasters they get utterly dropkicked practically entirely out of government every few years so somebody can clean up their mess so i'm less worried about them for the long run.
I will say though that trump is an unknown quantity. You have to be a complete fool to think he actually takes any of the positions he's stated. From the day he enterted the campaign i looked back on the years and years of him praising democrats and saying things far left of hillary at times and knew everything he was saying was bullshit and i wondered whether he was playing the biggest long game ever and running as some stealth leftist to try to bring the republican party into the modern age.
The irony is let's say he is doing that. And he offered up trump care, as the solution to obamacare, and it was universal gov't health care like he was advocating for not too long ago. His borderline cultists would be like YEAH FUCK OBAMACARE SOCIALISM!!! and then they'de be logging into trumpcare.gov to find their nearest federal medical clinic lol.
I'll never forget rick santorum at a rally saying "Obama wants every kid in america to go to college......WHAT A SNOB!!!" and the crowd was cheering like crazy. Fuck that was disturbing.
But yes, Trump is by far the dumbest most fact free science illiterate candidate to ever run let alone win. This is super disturbing.
Today is the day The Wall came down, nearly thirty years ago. Think about that, then think about that, no matter who won, this was an election run on division and identity politics.
I'm like HOLY SHIT TALK ABOUT POLICY YOU DUMBSHITS!! Political correctness is something only a tiny group of sensitive snowflakes give a shit about.
Hilary wasn't a perfect candidate, but I believe she won fair and square. Bernie, while inspiring, didn't quite have the ground game. I believe the DNC supported Hilary behind the scenes (not in any 'thumb on the scale' way) because she's been around for so long and has made plenty of friends and allies. Friends and allies are important, particularly in politics.
I absolutely respect Bernie. I voted for him. Bernie supported Hilary, and honestly the more I learned about her, the more I liked her. Hilary, honestly, was beaten into this position, into being this sort of plastic politician through years of primarily conservative uproar. And if you looked at her platform and her positions, she wasn't very conservative at all. She was very liberal, adopting many of Bernie's platforms.
The rest of the country decided to believe the lies and go for the guy who could quite possibly bring disaster. And the closest chance we have to providing breaks is in two years.
That's my prediction, at least.
Do you remember the laughable religion pandering and bible thumping and gun waving the democrats tried to do in 2014? lol It was so hilariously transparent.
Clinton was terrible in '08 and she and the crooked ass DNC gave us Trump in 2016. Democrats have no one to blame but Clinton and her corporate masters.
They are JUST as bad, if not worse, than the Republicans in regard to corporate influence. Their masters pick the candidate. That's why Bernie Sanders was screwed over.
I think that if any liberal or progressive ever wants real change, their gonna need to switch to the non-corporate Green party.
:b
He could have gone back to being senator from vermont bernie and not been anti gun like, at all and fuck would he have raked in anti trumpers and independents.
...no. I'm not enjoying this one bit.
1. I told you so.
2. Trump isn’t a Republican – he’s Trump. Uncharted territory.
3. He’s only ONE of THREE EQUAL branches of government.
4. This should snap the Left out of its “fat Elvis” period of worrying about whether Academy Awards are distributed fairly.
5. The Dems/Left must stop being beholden to identity politics and embrace those in ECONOMIC NEED - far more inclusive.
6. Demonizing white males is neither a winning strategy nor a liberal strategy.
7. It’s time for Dems to dump Hollyweird. You can’t reject one spoiled millionaire then embrace an entire industry of them.
8. If you accuse ALL of Trump’s supporters of bigotry, you’re engaging in bigotry.
9. If you believe in Democracy, you will accept the outcome as legitimate.
10. Trump may represent the last time a majority of voting Americans are willing to let a democratic vote produce the changes they’re demanding. He may be the best, or last, friend democracy has.
2. Trump is the CONSUMMATE republican. I just find it amusing that he just outright stated the racism and bigotry the GOP has been dogwhistling by their own admission for ages, they FREAKED OUT, and said this doesn't represent them, then he got the entirety of their bases support lol. But the idea he's not a republican is laughable, he supports laughably regressive economic policies not taken seriously by actual economists for generations that give massive tax breaks to the people controlling and hoarding most of the wealth, he threw in some populist bullshit he doesn't even follow to pander to the working and uneducated rabble knowing they'de be too lazy to look and see if his actions in business are the actions of somebody who is opposed to illegal immigrants taking jobs and is opposed to outsourcing labor and cheap materials aka, globalism and free trade. Hint, either in words or actions, he is NOT opposed to any of those. Not too long ago he was outright saying that outsourcing labor is pretty great lol.
3. Yes, all of which will be controlled by republicans soon most likely. that's what is truly worrying here.
4. Gee, who would have thought a fringe but very vocal faction of people telling you what you're allowed to think and say would get people angry and mobilized against the group that welcomes them in! If there's anything people like it's being accused of thought crime and being told that free speech is overrated, and that what you're allowed to say is dictated by incredibly sensitive pussy's feelings?!
5. This x 1000. Fucking SJW's. They have made me embarrassed to call myself a liberal. They're now associated with liberalism while what they want is ANTITHETICAL to it. People are so disconcerted with the authoritarian regressive left fringe they have run to the MOST authoritarian and regressive candidate in generations as their savior from it.
6. I didn't see hillary campaign on this but BOY did she welcome the people who do this with open arms. Presuppositions about race is racism, even if it's against whites. Identity politics is fucking retarded.
7. That's ridiculous. Ther'es no animosity on the left towards people with money simply for having money. The animosity is the people with money who use that to manipulate our political system to crush their opponents industries or manipulate the tax and regulatory system to enrich themselves at the detriment to all others. When do you see the left demonizing bill gates or warrant buffet etc.
8. This is true. At the same time, trump ran the most fact free campaign of vague hyperbole with a platform that had less text than i've seen on the backs of cereal boxes, he also ran a campaign of blatant bigotry, that attracted disturbing numbers of openly bigoted people. From the support of the KKK and david duke, white nationalist super pacs, to the HOURS AND HOURS of footage from his rallies of people shitting on muslims, saying only trump will fight the jewish menace, to opinion polls showing his supporters, disturbingly large minorities and sometimes majorities believe the most utterly insane and bigoted shit. What was it 30% of his voters wanted to ban gays from entering the country? I mean ffs what got him on the map was characterizing virtually all mexican immigrants as rapists and murderers....despite the fact they commit less violent crime than the general native population. I don't think all of his supporters are racists and bigots, but a TON of them are, and he didn't really have much of a campaign outside of racism and bigotry, just a bunch of childish name calling and vague shit like "With me we'll win so hard!" and "I'll do X,Y,and Z so well it will make your head spin!". Not one person was attracted to his substantive and deep policy analysis or well argued and reasoned positions, because he didn't fucking have any, there wasn't a whole lot left for people to rally behind. But MAN did they love the idea of banning an entire religion from entering the country and him characterizing mexicans as rapists and murderers, that shit was like food for his supporters. It's also food for the stormfront crowd. Go figure.
9. I've never doubted that it's legitimate, i haven't seen anybody on the left say it isn't. What's ironic is it was trump himself who doesn't believe in demoracy and did everything he could to undermine confidence in the system that just made him the most powerful man on earth.
10. How the fuck is a guy who spent the last months of his campaigns saying that if he doesn't win THERE IS NO DEMOCRACY in america if he loses a friend to democracy?! He's the biggest enemy of democracy we've ever had run for office that i can think of. His campaign is already saying that they're coming for the people who were their enemies in this election. He said he wanted to lock his fucking opponent in prison if he wins.
I'm worried about people I care about dying, whether via hate crime, suicide, or complete inability to access medical assistance.
I despise conservatism and neoliberalism. Was definitely in the "lesser of two evils" camp and no matter who would have won america would have lost, it's just to what degree.
Average president work day is 16 hours. Hope trump gets a bucket of aderall.
I'm a liberal and wish they were too.
They won, but even their victory gloating sounds like crying to me.
The absolutely pants on head stupid mistakes and miscalculations they made are laid bare for everybody to see, we know from wikileaks they were entirely aware of them AS THEY WERE MAKING THEM at times. There are some pretty straight forward fixes to move the party away from clinton style establishment politics back to the populist party they once were.
Reading your first sentence I can't even tell whether you're referring to me or who you're referring to with "somebody who i thought had some brains.". If you think i wanted trump to win, i'm glad trump did win or that i'm a republican i suggest you actually read the journal instead of just the title.
We're entirely on the same page. All iv'e been talking about for months on this subject is how important it is that trump MUST lose.
Though i think bigotry/hate played a large roll I think repudiation of the establishment and the fact they don't really give a shit about us played the biggest roll in this mess.
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Exactly what it said the first time.
But yes, pardon me for not being polite when you say i have no brains and insinuate i'm a trump supporting republican on a journal that makes it very obvious i'm not where i say in the title and in the body of the journal i'm a liberal.
And then theres Trump, oh how I loathe him as well, loose lips sink ships type, But he was saying things that actually got peoples attentions. And he said a lot of stupid shit.
I too was convinced Hillary had the election in the bag, and utterly shocked she lost, totally and utterly shocked.
And I cheered.
And even Trump was shocked he won, his acceptance speech showed it.
And on the gun issue, Hillary said she wouldn't do anything, even pandered the gun vote saying she supported gun ownership. And yet on record, saying she'll do anything she can to abolish the second amendment. Boxer, Feinstein, Schumer and Warren were salivating at getting Hillary in to at minimum, do serious damage to the second.
And come Wednesday, there were no runs to the gun shops, no depletion of ammo from the shelves, no panic. The gun manufacturers are going to hate Trump, cause he's not a threat to them.
But yeah, the SJWs are shitting themselves due to Trump and its going to be an interesting month.
And you really shouldn't revoke democratic membership. I haven't identified as a democrat in a long time but i'm still a member so i can vote in their primaries. Trump is a con man and a retard, now that exit polls are in we know with almost certainty that bernie would have mopped the floor with him. That's why ya gotta vote in the primaries. Till republicans embrace science and reason i can never justify voting for them other than a couple who weren't anti science back in california, they of course didn't win, i dont' consider myself a democrat but for pragmatism sake i almost always end up voting democrat.
I'm not convinced at all though that loretta pulled strings with the FBI, James comey through a hand grenade in the race at clinton, if lynch had control over him she would not have allowed that. I personaly didn't give a flying fuck about the email shit.
Ther'es already silver linings emerging.
1. Trump pushing for nation wide right to carry. Awesome.
2. He's reneging on almost EVERY SINGLE THING he campaigned on lol. The wall is now a fence, "repeal obamacare" is now repeal it but leave in the most liberal and best parts like the provisions that prevent insurers from denying coverage based on preexisting conditions. He's now going to deport "criminal illegals" and not all of them haha. He's been VERY quiet on prosecuting hillary, and as much as i dislike her i think that's unconscionable.
3. SJW's shitting themselves is always great. They get a LOT of blame for this even though i think it's stupid to think trump will like, end sjw bullshit, but a lot of people voted for him cuz they're sick of crybullies.
"We were utterly swamped, with people buying long guns and glass, cause deer season starts Saturday. But zero panic buying."
Though looking at the prices in the handgun cases, I was stunned how expensive they've become the past 3 years alone. Heres hoping they eventually go down in price. Plus .22 ammo is still too damn expensive and unavailable.
One bit of positive gun related news, now with Trump in office, BATF is going to allow a shit load of surplus M-1 Garands and M1 carbines come back home from South Korea that the Obama administration told BATF not to allow in. Cause I can see M1 carbines being popular being tricked out camp guns. Plus that will drop the price on those two systems. M1 carbines especially have skyrocketed in price the past 3 years. Last gunshow I was at, average shooter grade quality ones were pushing $800.
I'm not terribly interested in surplus and classic guns. I like modern stuff, and i'm not really a big gun collector, i think my money is best spent getting kinda one of everything i could concievably need (I'm mostly a pistol guy, i got a full size, compact and single stack subcompact 9mm pistol, i got an ar15 finally recently, all i need is a sub gun and a shotgun and eventually a long distance gun, probably an ar10 and i'll be happy.), and then spending the rest of my money on ammo for training.
I might roll over to academy and gander mountain and see if they're trying to ditch reloading component inventory, i was there shortly before the election and they had clearly bought a ton of shit they anticipated to be panic buy fodder, maybe i can score some powder and projectiles.
Outside the Evo, only thing I really want is a Glock 42/43, maybe a 26/27 if I can score one cheaply used.
Though I've noticed, maybe you have as well, that 10mm suddenly has cropped up in volume and availability, that 6 months ago was still rare as hell.
It's basically a legal sbr, nothing clunky about it.
I agree with what you are saying, everyone acts surprised, so did I for that matter, even though deeply inside of me I expected that to happen, no matter how much I disagree with the phenomena.
The problem appears to have deeper roots, and we need to address those. Because they need to be addressed. And that has to be done with a clear and cool mind. It will take time, it will take a conscious effort on our behalf, no matter where we stand, left or right. We need to understand that democracies function in particular ways, but it is the will of people that will in the end control the result. Or at least it should be. For in a broken media system that is not guaranteed. When a recorded 40% of adult US citizens claim that their major source of news comes from facebook posts, that is an issue that needs to be, if not resolved, at least understood. There is a bigger problem than politics failing their part. There is an issue of media failing to do their part. And no matter where we stand, again, left or right, we can aknowledge that the lack of transparency, and the lack of cross referencing the news we get and treat as truths, is getting alarmingly high.
On the bright side of things, this has served as a wake up call. For Democrats, Republicans, for the Media, for the Social Media, for the World. Sometimes we need to fall before we rise. But most of all, we need to realize that we are united by more things than those that separate us, and that there is common understanding to be found on any platform. Or at least, I may be a fool and hope so.
Also, yay for pronz spam ;p
The candidate that got screwed over that we now know would have won the election, who always had the strongest chance of winning was the liberal candidate. Hillary isn't a liberal, Obama isn't a liberal.
Trump ran on a bizarre mishmash of fairly liberal and extremely far right economic policies. The only candidates in politics right now that are opposed to free trade deals like the TPP and NAFTA are pretty much in the liberal wing of the democratic party, trump based the entire fiscal policy side of his campaign on these practically as well as getting corporate money out of politics (Ignoring the fact i think you have to be kindof a fool to think he's telling the truth on any of those positions.) which is again another issue you will almost only find support for in the liberal wing of the democratic party, which is a very small coalition.
In order for liberalism to fail we have to implement liberal ideas which we haven't done in decades other than a few social issues.
On a general note, I can tell you what is going of this side of the Atlantic, aka, Europe, and how people are treating this particular election. It has been a huge deal for us, because of the ramifications it may hold in store.
I think we can all agree that Trump is playing fast and loose with words, their meaning, what they stand for, and so forth. The troubling part comes when you look at the cabinet he plans to appoint, in my opinion, and I may be well wrong! I cant point that out enough! I could well be wrong!
But truth is such; he has gone all alt right, which should be troubling for liberals. Now liberals on the other hand, they(we) need to realize that the current economic model is non sustainable. This is what has led to rise of extreme right movements in the EU, this is what has led to a fascist party being the third most popular in my country of origin, and that being Greece, I think you can realize that I can understand a thing or two about populist movements. Fear breeds such movements. It just does.
And you are right about this: 'In order for liberalism to fail we have to implement liberal ideas which we haven't done in decades other than a few social issues.' I really could not agree more.