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Patreon and Commission rehaul. Please read!
9 years ago
I just wrote it in patreon, so I'll copy/paste it here =3
Hello there! I've been hinting these last few weeks that there's going to be a bit of a patreon rehaul by January, focused mainly on commissions and patreon-related rewards and artwork.
I'll write a more detailed post soon, but I want your feedback! Very few of the changes are definitive yet and they're up to change depending on your opinion =3
[b]First change: I'll try to focus ALL commissions in patreon. This way I don't have to split 15 days for commishes and 15 to patreon, and just do a big chunk of work instead. This'll free some spare time for me to work on other projects, while keeping it all transparent and easy to manage. I'll of course allow commissions to be directed through paypal if the commissioner so desires, but that'd make him lose all the extra stuff I offer on patreon.
I want to do this not only because it helps the management, but because it gives people outside patreon to get a taste, and perhaps stay in the lower tiers.
Second change: I'm making poll votes available for $2 patrons. As simple as that, I don't desire to keep something hidden for the $2 peeps.
Third change: I'm increasing the $20 pledge in 10 dollars. I don't think it's fair that you get current "level" artwork for a price from february. I'm REALLY happy with the latest $20 images, but I think they're a tad too cheap. $50 pledge WON'T change.
Fourth change: I'm adding new pledges for commissions. $60 for a character + BG. $75 for 2 characters, no BG. $125 for a full-day stream.
Fifth Change: I'm editting the Pledge Goals to be more fitting and realistic: $250 for the freebie stream, no change in that. $400 will net at the very least weekly streams, tho they'll be more like once every 2-3 days. $700 means 2 steady comic pages, that would substitute the normal R34 polls. You guys STILL VOTE for characters, kinks, etc.
Last change: This one's up to you guys. I've find out I CAN work on comics on a steady basis. I'm willing to do small 2-4 page series, but that means I'd stop doing the R34 poll pictures. You prefer these overly detailed images, or instead would like comic pages? Again, votings and polls will still happen, but less frequently since I'd do a comic page a month (unless pledge goal is met). Please let me know your opinion about this.
I've bolded what I think affects FA users and commissioners the most.
To recap/TL;DR: I want to focus all commishes on patreon. People can still commish me with paypal if they so desire. Prices will be the same tho.
I'm rising the colored sketch pledge by 10 bucks. And I offer the chance of doing comic pages instead of the usual R34 poll pictures.
That's about it! I plan to do these changes by the 24th, but I'll listen to both you and patron's feedback regarding this. PLEASE VOICE YOUR OPINION, it matters not which one it is, I'll listen and discuss about it. Art is my life and my work, and I work for you guys alone ^^
Hello there! I've been hinting these last few weeks that there's going to be a bit of a patreon rehaul by January, focused mainly on commissions and patreon-related rewards and artwork.
I'll write a more detailed post soon, but I want your feedback! Very few of the changes are definitive yet and they're up to change depending on your opinion =3
[b]First change: I'll try to focus ALL commissions in patreon. This way I don't have to split 15 days for commishes and 15 to patreon, and just do a big chunk of work instead. This'll free some spare time for me to work on other projects, while keeping it all transparent and easy to manage. I'll of course allow commissions to be directed through paypal if the commissioner so desires, but that'd make him lose all the extra stuff I offer on patreon.
I want to do this not only because it helps the management, but because it gives people outside patreon to get a taste, and perhaps stay in the lower tiers.
Second change: I'm making poll votes available for $2 patrons. As simple as that, I don't desire to keep something hidden for the $2 peeps.
Third change: I'm increasing the $20 pledge in 10 dollars. I don't think it's fair that you get current "level" artwork for a price from february. I'm REALLY happy with the latest $20 images, but I think they're a tad too cheap. $50 pledge WON'T change.
Fourth change: I'm adding new pledges for commissions. $60 for a character + BG. $75 for 2 characters, no BG. $125 for a full-day stream.
Fifth Change: I'm editting the Pledge Goals to be more fitting and realistic: $250 for the freebie stream, no change in that. $400 will net at the very least weekly streams, tho they'll be more like once every 2-3 days. $700 means 2 steady comic pages, that would substitute the normal R34 polls. You guys STILL VOTE for characters, kinks, etc.
Last change: This one's up to you guys. I've find out I CAN work on comics on a steady basis. I'm willing to do small 2-4 page series, but that means I'd stop doing the R34 poll pictures. You prefer these overly detailed images, or instead would like comic pages? Again, votings and polls will still happen, but less frequently since I'd do a comic page a month (unless pledge goal is met). Please let me know your opinion about this.
I've bolded what I think affects FA users and commissioners the most.
To recap/TL;DR: I want to focus all commishes on patreon. People can still commish me with paypal if they so desire. Prices will be the same tho.
I'm rising the colored sketch pledge by 10 bucks. And I offer the chance of doing comic pages instead of the usual R34 poll pictures.
That's about it! I plan to do these changes by the 24th, but I'll listen to both you and patron's feedback regarding this. PLEASE VOICE YOUR OPINION, it matters not which one it is, I'll listen and discuss about it. Art is my life and my work, and I work for you guys alone ^^
However, I've been told that EU people gets charged extra for fees, 20% extra, that's too much! I think I'll have to think of something else for now.
"First Change" needs a bit more explanation for me. What is a commision through patreon? Does it mean that I have to raise my pledge to 75 $ to get a commision with two characters?
Patreon is more a continious support thing for me, like input a pledge amount and don't think about it for half a year. Paypal-commissions are a one-time thing with more money behind it. If you change that, then I would have to change my attitude towards patreon or continue using paypal for comissions.
Another thing would be that I'll have to pay 19% VAT on the commision if I pay it through the pledge, that would increase the price for me.
But if you've got patreons who would like to pay their bigger commisions through patreon, then I'll not stop you to open that way.
"Second change" ok, agree
"Third change" It's your right to increase the prices and your sketches + the patreon things are worth the price. But I'll have to think about following you to the new pledge amount, because I would have to break the limit I gave myself for patreon.
"Fourth change" how far are your paypal-commision prices affected by this, for example a 2 character picture without bg?
"Fifth Change": your patreon says 290 $ right now- thats definitly smaller than 400 $. Will you continue doing streams that aren't freebie streams? Or is the whole change just about gurantees?
"Last Change": I like stories, so comics are a good option and better as regular R34 auctions.
Alright, I had totally forgot about the VAT, fuck... Well, I can't allow that, a 2 char. pic would not cost 75 but frigging 90! Thanks for letting me know, Node, I didn't know about this. Gotta admit this pisses me off royally. However it seems that it only affects EU people. I've asked 2 americans that have pledge me and they say that they get charged the exact amount they pledge for, with no extra fees...
So if I go through this, I'm basically telling EU furs to fuck off and pay 20% more for no reason, ok =n=" Gosh I think it was a really good idea, I didn't expect that at all. I'll think of something else.
I understand if you can't follow the pledge, each one of us have our economy and I can't judge that ^^ I do hope you manage to stay! I can say for certain that I'll enjoy workin' on your reward this month, haha!
Prices would be the same. I think I've gotten better within these last few months, and I think it's a fair price. That'd be 75 with the new prices.
Yeah, it'd be a guarantee thing ^^ It doesn't mean I'd suddenly stop streaming forever, haha! After all, I work best when I stream, so it'd be counterproductive :p
And 75€ is a fair price, yes.
I was a bit hot-headed yesterday, my apologies, haha!
I perhaps can set it up for EU people, discout $5 from the commission so they can pledge that on patreon so they still get the rewards. It's a bit of a lame fix, but that'd allow me to continue the plan normally, specially since non-EU people can just pledge the amount and just pay that amount.
Hmm, perhaps not all of it is lost, haha! Thanks for the insight, Node!
A 5 $ Discount would be a good Symbol. But unfortunatly, that would still mean like 14 extra Dollars for a EU-Custumer. Blargh, I should stop thinking about mypledges and commission prices in such an abstract way.
Anyway, a different question: will it maybe be possible to stack three 30$ sketch pledges into one regular 2 character pic with bg?
As in, a $75 reward instead? You'd have to warn me with time so I write it down and all, but I guess it'd be ok, yeah! You'd lose money tho, considering you'd be paying 90 bucks for something worth 75-85 (with the BG and all).
I'll warn you if I plan anything special then.