It's more of the fact of Nintendo is charging $300 for a tablet that only has 32GB of internal memory and doesn't have many games in general in the 2017 launch lineup. Also limiting worldwide availability to only 2million units. Did I mention "worldwide"? Also we don't even know the specs of the unit yet.

I don't know much about gaming tablets, how much cost a good Nvidia shield?

That's Another thing, we don't know the exact specifications yet, so how we gonna know already if 300 bucks is too much?.

"only has 32GB of internal memory"

You don't need internal memory to play games. The games are on cartridges.

Plus you can expand it with microSD cards.

I love how people are losing their shit on paying for online services when XBox and Playstation seem to get a free pass

damn right

The complaints about the lack of games are a valid point, as the Wii U shipped with to few games and was one of the problems of the poor sales
No one wants to buy a console and only get 1 game, sure it's Zelda a killer app, but still
Hopefully the Switch will get some 3rd party games, and even better, some indie games to fill out the roster of games on launch
There is a ton of fun indie games that fit the Switch perfectly, and honestly if they don't get some indie games on the console they are missing out

That was actually what really killed the Wii U, nintendo thought the Wii U it was gonna get a big third party support, but nope..., when EA Activision Ubisoft..., realise they was have to redo his games instead doing a mere port, they abandoned ship.
now the hope is if the can do a simple port of their games, if it's that the case there is more probability to have support on Switch.

Well, from what we've heard, the switch uses the same or similar tech as the competitors so porting shouldn't be a problem.

Here's a list of announced games

https://i.reddituploads.com/352c4a213c0842c7a17604864cb06a0f?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=b144ccaa7b1b740d1821ed01ff25c74a

If you're worried about launch, you really shouldn't. They've got a handful of games ready for launch day as most consoles do and one of those is Zelda which is going to take you long enough to beat for other titles to release.

Also, the price has to do with the tech inside more than the fact that it's portable. It also has a capacitive touch screen, nfc reader, advanced haptic feedback, ir sensing with shape and distance registry, gyroscope and accelorometer, and more.

Learned that Japan is also launching with Puyo Puyo Tetris, Disgaea 5, Dragon Quest Heroes 1&2, 1-2-Switch, Nobunaga's Ambition, and I Am Setusuna on top of Zelda and Bomberman R.

Honestly they weren't unrealistic expectations at all. Here's why the Switch deeply bothers me, but I'll do it in the order you explained your points.

1. People didn't want a huge amount of games at launch, they just wanted there to actually be games to make you excited for. There is only 1 game, literally only 1 and it's Zelda. No one cares about just dance, 1,2 switch, and I already forgot the other two games. Here's why that's a problem. The next big game to come out is all the way in July, Splatoon 2, that's 3 months after launch. That's a really long time to have nothing else to play on your portable system. It'll literally be doing nothing in your room for months and that's a bad way to start. Also of course it was a short time between the Wii U and Switch, they are literally abandoning the WII U, them having a small time to make new games is literally all their own fault because they were rushing to put the Wii U behind them, they shouldn't be excused for abandoning something everyone paid good money for.

2. People are mad they have to pay for online for a number of reasons. Reason 1, it was one of the few positive things people could still say about Nintendo. That at least they weren't greedy with their online, but that trust in a lot of people is gone now. Reason 2, Nintendo has always had poor online issues. Even with their simple friend network and such Nintendo just doesn't know how to make online work; an example of this being when the Wii U first came out and you literally couldn't play it the first day because it required an update and the network was so flooded that it crashed and didn't allow many of users to even use the system. Reason 3, Nintendo is offering free games monthly, that's good, but they've gone on record this weekend saying that the games you get for free that month stop being free once the month is over requiring you to then pay full price for the game. Nintendo has done this before with this demo service, making it so demos expire after an hour or after you play them 20 times etc. This really rubs people the wrong way because like you said we pay for online for PlayStation and Xbox, but those two services are simply doing it so much better.

3. The price. This is interesting because I haven't heard anyone complain about the price personally. If anything it being cheap seems stupid to me simply because for $300 you can buy a PS4 or Xbone which have pretty decent sized game library. You can literally buy a different console and play them for the year that the Switch has to wait to get to their better games, because as of right now the switch has only 3 games people are looking forward to. On the comment about the ps4 and xbox being power horses, that just gives people more of a reason to get those systems over the switch at the moment.

4. About basically everything else, The battery life is a really big problem honestly. They said it's 2-6 hours depending on the game. Now I can tell you for a fact that Zelda, Mario, Splatoon 2, and Skyrim are going to be the games that drain your battery in 2 hours. This is bad because all those games are ones that you're use to playing in big chunks at a time. Sure you can plug in the Switch to a wall using the ac adapter but guess what, your system is no longer portable which defeats the purpose since you're stuck in place waiting for the long recharge. My only comment on the controllers is that i don't like them, I also don't like how they're meant to be the focal point for selling their billion of accessories that they will make to make extra money. And yes, paying $80 for the better controller, or $40 for one half of the joycon, is extremely stupid. But like the IPhone, Nintendo is doing anything they can to make extra money for gullible or blindly loyal people.


Like I get it, a lot of people are just so blindly Nintendo fans that they refuse to see any of these as issues, but they honestly are big issues. Nintendo is one of the biggest gaming companies in the world, they need to know better but they're just so late to the party nowadays. If you want to buy the Switch than so be it, but expect to see it be trashed on by many people like the Wii U was simply because it wasn't ready yet. Nintendo rushed it to try making up money on the Wii U loses and it clearly shows now since after 2 press conferences they don't have much of anything to show and the thing comes out in less than 2 months.

We're not expecting a full game library on launch, we just want about 5 "must have" games to justify getting it at launch, of which it doesn't have.

Paying online IS a big deal. I refuse to pay for online. i already pay for internet, why do I need to pay more to use the internet I already own?

The price is fine for a launch.

The battery life is an issue for the people using the mobile function. i don't see why I should use the mobile function.

I dont want much, a console pokemon game, maybe a metroid, and a few 3rd party things, side from that ports are fine. im fine awaiting

Thing is, it looks like the Switch is going to release with Skyrim, Zelda, Splatoon (which caught everyone off guard), and Mario Kart. This lineup is actually pretty good all considering. Another thing is the possibility of a remake of Front Mission coming to the Switch, and Westerners have been clamoring for a new Front Mission (with the man behind Armored Core 5 being the man in charge, so in all likelihood we're going to see essentially Front Mission: Alternative as the first of the rebooted series) since the Evolved debacle.

I realise Switch have a better line up of games at release than the N64, who had only two games available on his release.

Let's fall back to Sega and why they failed. New console every year or two. Nintendo's doing a slightly similar equasion, here, making a new Console every 2-3 years. They're also the metaphorical heel on the boot of the console market. Failure is in sight.

Nintendo is not Sega, also nintendo doesn't release new consoles that quickly, There's a 6 years difference between DS and 3DS, 5 years between N64 and Gamecube, 6 years between Wii and Wii U, that's a normal generation cycle.
An example with another company, 5 years between PS1 and PS2.
Also we can have the same argue with Sony and Microsoft now, they releasing new consoles mid generation like sega did, why they have a free pass?

Yes, I'm aware that Nintendo isn't Sega. But, I'm talking about most recently.Two years from 3DS to 2DS and Wii U, one year later, 3DSXL, and then most recently, the New! 3DS and 3ds XL.

And again we have the double standard here, Sony release the PS4 Pro and that's ok, Microsoft is making project Scorpio and thats ok too, but when nintendo is doing the same thing -"OMG Nintendo is DOOMED!!!, They gonna fall like Sega!!, Nintendo third party!!!, blah, blah, blah... Do you forgot the many versions of the Game Boy they made before releasing the DS?, same with the DS, and 3DS interactions, if you wanna know why Sega went down to the drain, you can check this video: https://youtu.be/ZZg9AgSWeyA

The ps4 Pro and Xbox scorpio are not new systems. They're "upgrades" to the current system. Meaning that if you don't want to buy them you don't have to, because the same games coming out for those are still coming out for the normal ps4 and xbone. You can't use them as a counter argument, because they aren't new systems in the slightest, they are basically the same as a slim version of their consoles, you're literally missing out on nothing by not getting them. The switch is a brand new system, this isn't a double standard.

That's why people can't complain about 3ds and 3ds xl, because they're the same thing. Why the 2ds can't be used in the argument because it's literally a really ugly 3ds and nothing more. But the switch isn't a wii u, it's something new and in a short amount of time. And here's why people are upset about the short amount of time, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2Nsf04.....0msT.jpg:large there is a massive gap between the wii u and every other one of their systems. Why? Because it was poorly planned out developing wise.