assistance with a samoyed dog?
9 years ago
so, my roommate, bless her soul, got a samoyed dog about a year ago and i, in my folly, agreed to help try and train her once i moved in. what i didnt realize was the extent to which this dog values its independence and refuses to wholly respect anyone
she listens to commands, somewhat, and will almost always sit or shake when asked; but she does so almost violently, and also tends to bite hard and play VERY roughly
she also refuses to let anyone know when she needs to go to the bathroom, preferring to go THE SECOND the need hits her, which is having a negative impact on my own dog (who almost never had accidents beforehand and now has ""accidents"" almost daily) i recognize one remedy to this is to take her out super often but she also like... refuses to recognize these sorts of things?
my roommate doesn't discipline her much, which is likely why she's so... much of a disaster?
does anyone have any tips or ideas?
she listens to commands, somewhat, and will almost always sit or shake when asked; but she does so almost violently, and also tends to bite hard and play VERY roughly
she also refuses to let anyone know when she needs to go to the bathroom, preferring to go THE SECOND the need hits her, which is having a negative impact on my own dog (who almost never had accidents beforehand and now has ""accidents"" almost daily) i recognize one remedy to this is to take her out super often but she also like... refuses to recognize these sorts of things?
my roommate doesn't discipline her much, which is likely why she's so... much of a disaster?
does anyone have any tips or ideas?
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Sounds like this dog has got a lot of pent up energy! 9/10 that's the reason for them being aggressive when playing.
Samoyed's were bred to work (herding, pulling sleds, etc.) and as a result, they do require a fair amount of exercise!
If they don't have a nice, big, fenced in yard (which they should play in for a couple hours a day doing an activity), then they definitely need about 2-3 long walks a day!
It doesn't say how old this girl is, but hopefully she's still in her "puppy" stage (which can last for 14 months or so lmaooo, the bigger the dog the longer the puppy stage).
When you take her out to use the bathroom, every time she goes outside give her a treat! This creates a positive association with using the bathroom OUTSIDE rather than inside.
With the positive reinforcement and the exercise I recommended, she should go to the bathroom inside a LOT less (but hopefully not at all).
A lot of dogs begin forming bad habits of using the bathroom indoors when they don't get enough exercise due to frustration and what not.
Also, if she's not spayed, DEFINITELY DO THAT 1000%
Spaying your dog should be TOP PRIORITY if you aren't a licensed breeder.
If she's not, that is probably 75% of what the problem is.
Dogs are a lot more...."wild" (for lack of a better term) when they aren't spayed because of all the extra hormones and instincts they got going on.
Also, she will be less prone to different types of cancer so win-win!
If you have any other behavioral issues, let me know! I've been working with dogs for two years now and am actually studying to be a dog trainer!
regrettably, said roommate didn't particularly research what she was getting into, lol. but, were working on it.
I'm supposed to be in charge of walks but she's so damn high energy in comparison to my dog that it can be a daunting task lmao, so I don't actually do it often, so it is in part my fault, its just so hard when she's got so much ENERGY AND PERSONALITY
we do live close to a dog park that I should take her to its a matter of the weather here and how muddy she can potentially get
I'm not used to this kind of dog though which is why I was asking and this does kind of confirm my suspicion, which sucks because we are a relatively low energy household lMao BUT I will definitely be giving these things some tries and passing on this knowledge to everyone else haha
thank you! (also yeah she just turned a year in December )
Even though they have great intentions research is ALWAYS important.
DEFINITELY give those tips and tricks a try
(also, I know its 2x as much work, but you should walk your dogs separately so you can focus on the Samoyed)
but honestly...I know it'd be a tough decision,
but there's really no shame in giving her back up for adoption.
I know that would suck A LOT, but certain breeds just have different requirements from their owners!
If she were to be much happier in a home that has a fenced in yard or has all the time in the world to take her for walks, then you should do what's best for her, you know??
As owners, we gotta do what's best for our pups, and sometimes that means finding a home for them that can give them exactly what they need if you can't
(STORY TIME BELOW, WARNING A TINY BIT GRAPHIC)
One time my family adopted a cat who was really high energy.
Me and my siblings were young so we didn't really know we had to play with the cat,
but the cat (as a result from not getting enough play time) became violent and ended up scratching my brother in the eye, tearing one of his optic tissues out D:
A Samoyed is WAY bigger than a tabby cat, they can do MUCH more damage.
Especially working breeds....they can get pretty aggressive and violent when cooped up.
You definitely don't want someone getting hurt just because she's not getting enough exercise, you know?
im sure with a little work on everyone's part, though as i mentioned she isnt my dog, that we can get a good thing going; not to mention we're only meant to be in this apartment possibly for the next 5 months - wherein afterwards we should be getting a house hopefully with a yard
also im really sorry about your brother!!
And that's super awesome to hear!
She only has to bear it for five more months and then she can run as much as she wants in your new yard!
Good luck with her! Samoyed's are stubborn and proud hahaha, but they're amazing dogs
If you need anything else, let me know!
If you can't afford to hire a dog trainer, you will have to just bite the bullet and do the research if your roommate won't. There is a subreddit dedicated to dog training ( www.reddit.com/r/dogtraining/ ) where you may be able to get some more personalized help/may be a good place to start!
I also have an active dog that just NEEDS to go out, otherwise she becomes ill-mannered and impatient. I'm also an extremely low energy person, but I have found that walking her two to three times a day around the block are enough. She just needs to get out of the house and smell the fresh air to not feel "caged". As a note, we don't have a yard either, and it's a very small house so the walks are necessary.
They range in average to about 10-20 minutes depending on how fast she wants to go (I try to follow her pace as exercise for myself), and we spend two to fours hours at the dog park once a week so she gets to socialize with other dogs.
Usually the scents, noises and activities outside, happening around her are enough to keep her mind busy. Since she spends most of the time inside the walks can be overwhelming. As a note, and so you know, she doesn't come back home tired, I can't tire her, she's too active. But, she comes back with a better attitude, she listens, and rarely has "accidents", she likes to save it for when we go on walks, which she knows WILL HAPPEN at least twice a day.
As for the accidents with the other dog, they seem very stressed. A housebroken dog having accidents occasionally isn't that bad but what's happening definitely sounds like a case of bad anxiety.
First: A tired dog is a happy dog. exercise, exercise, exercise. It's a must. She is a bored, high energy dog. This is what she has done to keep herself entertained.
An obedient dog is a dog that lives under the rule that 'nothing is for free'. As long as she isn't food aggressive. I'd start offering her the food she eats daily as treats. I'd feed her a very small rationed amount, then feed her the bulk as treat for doing commands and being behaved. If her food is not enough to get her to listen, still ration her food, but give her high value treats like bland chicken or any treat she like. (i'd aim for something either peanut butter flavored or beef jerky like. they are very high value to most dogs.
If she is a nuts, anxious dog, then also remember to reward her when she is laying down and calm as well. It will positively reinforce the calm.
My vet had a ton of success training her stubborn girl to go to the bathroom outside by tethering her leash to her belt and keeping the dog next to her at all times and if she showed any signs of trying to go, she'd take her outside. it's about consistency and rewarding her for going outside. If she goes inside, I'd ignore her and start from square one. Once you're more confident, then I'd increase her ability to roam away from you slowly. If she is failing all of this, give her some benefit of the doubt. She may have an underlying urinary issue that is facilitating some of this. UTI, crystals, stones, ect.
Clean all areas she went with an enzymatic cleaner because most house hold cleaners will still leave a smell that most dogs can recognize which may be why your dog is urinating in the house now.
If the aggression is that bad and is inhibiting your training her, then you'll need a professional. Aggression can escalate in training situations. Do not use any negative related approach to train. Do not use correction devices without professionals.