Still No Commissions?
9 years ago
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sorensystem So... It seems like I have to write another journal asking for advice.
This Tumblr post got to me.
It seems like a lot of the other students at my art college are able to at least slightly support themselves by selling their art or doing commissions. And, I keep reading posts about how the furry community is a good space for commissions. So I feel a little let down as a furry artist in art college who can't manage to sell her art.
I can't figure out why I consistently upload art for years and still get barely interest at all. I am grateful that in the last few days one of my long time clients has approached me for another commission. However, not including that, my commissions can be open for months and I won't hear a peep. (Hehe, bird puns.)
I've tried trades and YCHes to generate interest in my art. I did a couple trades with people on DeviantArt, but nobody here was even interested in doing an art trade with me. My first YCH went really well but this second one is going unnoticed. I've added different types of commissions that might be popular, such as badges (which I didn't do for a really long time).
Really, can my watchers tell me if there's something I'm doing wrong, or I'm not doing that I should be doing? or if my art just isn't good enough? Or if my prices are too high? (I mean, if that's the problem, tough luck because I'm not lowering my prices, but that's why I have lower price point items such as sketches and avatars.)
This Tumblr post got to me.
It seems like a lot of the other students at my art college are able to at least slightly support themselves by selling their art or doing commissions. And, I keep reading posts about how the furry community is a good space for commissions. So I feel a little let down as a furry artist in art college who can't manage to sell her art.
I can't figure out why I consistently upload art for years and still get barely interest at all. I am grateful that in the last few days one of my long time clients has approached me for another commission. However, not including that, my commissions can be open for months and I won't hear a peep. (Hehe, bird puns.)
I've tried trades and YCHes to generate interest in my art. I did a couple trades with people on DeviantArt, but nobody here was even interested in doing an art trade with me. My first YCH went really well but this second one is going unnoticed. I've added different types of commissions that might be popular, such as badges (which I didn't do for a really long time).
Really, can my watchers tell me if there's something I'm doing wrong, or I'm not doing that I should be doing? or if my art just isn't good enough? Or if my prices are too high? (I mean, if that's the problem, tough luck because I'm not lowering my prices, but that's why I have lower price point items such as sketches and avatars.)
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sorensystem
I will admit it's been slow, I want to say the last commission I got was a room sign right before ANE and it feels like my art uploads get passed over but if I upload a suit photo then the comments/faves start pouring in so I totally feel you here.
I do post my artwork occasionally in groups on Telegram and I got a few of my friends to watch me, but no commissions yet.
So I do commission work fulltime, and it can be challenging at times. I will also say that you do NOT need to do NSFW to get by. I don't. It can help get you noticed faster, but it's not necessarily going to solve everything. Only go the NSFW route if you want to and would enjoy drawing it, I don't recommend doing it just because you feel you have to.
Best way to get sales is to get lots of watchers. That means lots of advertising outside of your own galleries. Facebook has tons of furry art communities where you can advertise sales and your art in general, and each community can have over a thousand+ followers. Post on multiple communities (I usually post sales on 5+ at a time), and post often (because your posts will get buried by other users' posts and you want to make sure everyone has a chance to see what you're offering). For example I'll put a specific type of conbadge on sale, then a few days later I'll put icons or something else on sale and keep rotating. I don't personally use it, but many artist friends of mine say Twitter is good too because people can just share your posts and reach bigger crowds that way.
Other things that help are attending and dealing at conventions. When I have a dealer table I keep my business cards out and almost always get a bunch of new watchers shortly after the con.
Post a lot on your galleries. Things on FA get buried on the front page quickly, so post your art on different days and at different times to reach various crowds. Try to post at least once a week if you can, the more often you post the more often people will find your art.
Not sure if any of that helped, or if you're already doing all that. That said, sometimes it's just hard. I've always said commission work is a 'feast or famine' situation... sometimes you're drowning in commissions and sometimes it's bone dry and you're scraping by.
Your art is lovely and unique and your prices look totally reasonable to me, so I wouldn't worry about that. Just keep pushing sales and I believe you can do well!
Also if you want, feel free to add me on Facebook ( https://www.facebook.com/Kalika.Tybera.Art ). Just let me know who you are if it's under your real name, I only add people I know on there. You can look at the communities I have added and try posting on those.
I'll probably follow you on Facebook (I'll note you with my real name there) and see where you're sharing your art. I already share my art regularly to a few groups but it doesn't typically get noticed.
I am already doing most of what you mentioned and have been for a while, except for dealing at conventions. I've had tables at Artist Alleys a couple times before and would love to continue doing so, but I wouldn't be able to manage to fit it into my college schedule. Some of the students at my college do manage to somehow, and make hundreds of dollars, but I really have no idea how that's possible at with how busy the classes here are. Maybe if I sacrificed sleep or something.
When I mention posting in groups, make sure you do it often too, and always at different times of the day to vary who sees the posts.
It's tough though. I've been doing this for about 10 years now, and I still struggle sometimes.
I've noticed people's budgets are all tighter lately too, so consider trying to offer some smaller pieces that can be sold at lower prices? Icons can be good sellers and don't take very long to make. If you come up with themed icons, people tend to like those too.
Not sure what else to suggest, but I hope things pick up for you!
I've done massive posting of my artwork, I've done freebies for people in the past, and I've done commissions. The biggest problem I face is that I'll do freebies or commissions and they won't get posted by the people that asked for them and received them. So that has been difficult, and I've been massively trying to better my style to get my art out there and encourage people to post it. I think I've stepped up my game from what I used to draw like 3 years ago.
With that said, something some of my more popular friends say, is to get yourself out there by REALLY keeping up with the social crowd. It's not so much what you upload that gets attention, it's how you interact with the community. So any time you see somebody with an art piece you enjoy, comment on it, and possibly leave some helpful feedback if they need it! Leave comments on peoples profiles about how you feel in regards to their gallery or them as a person, and try to make it as positive as possible. People love compliments and positivity and they'll gravitate towards you if you're positive and happy. I think it goes hand in hand. Keep putting your art out there, but also talk to people as often as you possibly can. Leave compliments, comments, advice, etc. The more people see you on other peoples profiles and under their artwork, the more interested people get to click on your page and they may even decide to commission you if they like what they see!
I also agree with the person above - attending conventions in general really puts yourself out there. After I went to two furry cons, I not only made a lot of friends, but I got a lot more attention towards my FA account because I told people who I was and people saw what I did and chose to commission me. If you set up your own vendor table, or even just make business cards to hand out and leave on convention tables around the con, people are bound to bite at your art for a commission.
Also once the holidays have all fully passed and peoples tax returns have come in, they'll be looking a lot more to commission artists. This is just my take on everything. Trust me, I wanna get out there myself and make myself noticed, and someday be able to take commissions, but I guess you just have to start with a lot of social interaction and putting yourself out there on your own.
First and foremost, I will definitely say that based on your art-style, I'm honestly surprised that you don't have more watchers. Because your art-style is quite lovely. I also commend you for doing strictly SFW art instead of just going the NSFW route, even if it would get you more commissions. After all, working on art that makes you uncomfortable isn't exactly motivating work-wise. I know that based on my own characters and commissions I've gotten in the past may seem otherwise, but I myself am not very big on NSFW art either (I may be into bondage but I prefer the non-sexualized, clothed variety XP).
If I had to guess one of the main reasons you aren't getting as many commissioners, I would say that it's your prices. I think the prices for each extra character and for backgrounds in artwork you draw is more than fair. However, the base prices seem to be fairly expensive when compared to other artists I've commissioned. For example, when looking at your commission sheet, your charge pencil illustrations at $50. To most people, that price is quite high for a black and white picture. No offense. My suggestion would be to look at other artists artwork and prices, compare their artwork to your own, and then adjust your prices based on that. If you want, I can tell you a few artists I have commissioned in the past and why I chose them.
I do hope I haven't sounded rude at all. If I did, I apologize. I'm just doing my bet to give advice because you seem like a nice person and I feel like you art desrves morre recognition based on what I've seen. o.o
Additionally, I've just always been a slow artist and I'm not sure why. The pencil illustrations typically take me at least 5 hours for a single character, including the sketch stage, so charging any less than $50 would be underpricing myself anymore than I already am. I WOULD like to have lower prices, but when I did commissions in the past with lower prices I was always acutely aware of how I felt like I was underselling myself.
It is understandable if you feel like you're underpricing yourself. A lot of artists feel that way. I have a friend who has been having money troubles and decided to up the prices of his commissions not too long ago. And he started getting less commissioners as a result.
Here's one way of looking at it; your price for a single character digital illustration is $75. If you lowered that price to, say, $50, it may seem as though you're underpricing yourself at first. However, if you're getting more commissions than you did when the price was higher, cumulatively it will amount to a higher amount of money being made.
So what I would probably do if I was in your position is lower the badge prices by $30 and $50, pencil illustrations for a single character to $30, digital illustrations for a single character be lowered to $50, colored pencil for a single character to $60, and avatars/icons to $20. Like I said, at first it may seem like your underpricing yourself. But if you're getting more commissions, you'll be making more money overall. However, I'm not saying you have to listen to me. These are simply my suggestions.
Whatever you decide to do, I just hope that everything works out for you! :3