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People reacting to my art themes (a curious thing)
8 years ago
Sometimes i receibe private coments (allways in person, i haven't face almost any of these things in the internet) like "why did you do this?", "I don't like that", "You should stop that"... that I don't understand. There are some examples that where the most common ones:
1-
Person: "do you draw porn too??? TO BAD! You lost me!... I believe you was a clean artist only... disrespect for you"
Me: "Well.. I can draw lots of things, and porn is one of those"
Person: "But that's the easy way... you're being lazy and a sold out artist, you should draw what you want to draw"
Me: "Have you considered I take commissions because I LIKE drawing what other peoples want? have you considered this is my job, and part important of it is drawing what other people need me to draw? have you considered I that maybe I don't have any problem iwth drawing porn?
-People, if you don't have any problem drawing porn or just want to draw porn... well.. Draw porn! there is nothing wrong on that as long as you don't hurt other people, or use the identity of real people or other fursonas without permission of their authors. There is nothing wrong with porn, I know lots of people don't like porn on furry things cause it may affect the iamge of the fandom, but sadly it's not about the porn, but about the people who think porn is bad... I didn't even liked to watch porn till i realised the artistic part of it (age 22), nowdays if i see porn I do it more searching for references than any other thing (as lots of artist do), and there is nothing wrong with that nor with seing porn to relief oneself... SO i don't tottally understand the whole "I don't like you, because you draw porn" (even if i likes your style, and all your other pieces, even if you drew them because someone else asked for it, even if you don't get turned on by that, even if it was just 1 porn piece for every 40 non porn pieces in your gallery), common! whats wrong with these people? I know they don't wanna hurt nobody, but it's like theydon't realise they're pushing what they like (or don't like) into everyone else.. and that's not okey.
2-
Person: "Almost everything you draw is furry things, why don't you draw other things?"
Me: "most of my clients ask for furry art... I like drawing furry art... most of my drawings are commissions for furry people... it have sence doesn't it? if most of my clients where fans of medieval fantasy and liked more human art than furry art, I would have my gallery full with that.. since I love medieval fantasy art too."
Person:: mmhhh... it has sence.
Somepeople just can't solve a "2+2" problem without help. Or at least that's how it looks at first sight. But is not that they're stupid or something, they just don't see the whole picture... Ilustration is my job, not just a hobbie... I draw what my clients ask me to draw... is not that dificult. That doens't means even that I'll draw everything other people ask for (I have a list of things I won't draw, cause I don't like those things myself, like "rape art", where a victim who doesn't asked for it (non consenting at all) got violented and/or assaulted in a sexual way)... I don't like rape art, I like consensual things (I'm okey with bdsm, spanks and even gore in sex, as long as everything is consensual), I know it's a little weird I don't like draw those things but I could easily draw a guy stabing another with a sword in a non consesual way ()
3-(this one was strange)
Person:"I don't like diapers nor babies, man... I'm not into that"
Me: "It's okey"
Person: "it is? you have drawn a lot of those things"
Me: "yes"
Person: "I don't like it... I'm not into that"
Me: "It's okey man... everyone have their tastes. I draw a lot f things. some of those pieces were made because a client asked for it and payed me for drawing it (yes, I had to clarify sometimes what mean "drawing for clients") and other ones were made because I wanted, I like those things, it's a cute topic to draw"
Person (confused): "sooo... are we cool?"
Me: "Shouldn't we?"
Person: "You're cool, man"
This friend of mine was confused for some reason, he was thinking i was going to infriend him or start an argument about why his dislikes are not okey or something like that... People can like or don't like whatever they want as long as don't harm other people with their actions. My friends, my watchers, my clients, even myself are not obligated to love every single theme or piece I (or any other artist/designer/illustrator) draw. that's insane. if you don't like X type of art but that type of art is not harming people, just ignore it, This friend of mine acted like if i where going to be mad at him for that... maybe I would be mad at me if he was in my place, or maybe he had knew other artists or people who get mad for that kind of comments. Likes and Dislikes are just that, a matter of subjetive (personal) tastes.
What do you guys/gals/gels/spagettiMonsters thinks of thiese kind of comments about my or your drawings or likes... have you experienced this? what do you think of these people? how have you handle these kind of situations? have you been in the other side? (the side of the one telling the other about not liking something?)
I'll like to hear your toughts...
ALSO... I'll like to ask you is there any things you like most and least about my drawing themes? any favorite or less favorite?
Do you consider it a good reason to unfriend someone or unwatch an artist just because he/she/they/it/Spagetti drawn something diferent to his tastes?
In other non related news... COMMISSIONS ARE OPEN
COMMISSION LIST (CURRENT STATUSS)
1º: HQ Portrait Commission for ShadowCommando Paid / In Process
2º: OPEN SLOT
3º: OPEN SLOT
4º: OPEN SLOT
5º: OPEN SLOT
If you're interested in seing some of my works you can visit my gallery here:
https://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/sannamy/
(almost) Anything you ask, I can surelly draw it. Feel free to ask (even fetishes, fullcompositions, action scenes, cute or horror themed pieces, humans, monsters, porn, weaposn, armors and props, refsheets, logos, banners, icons, photo overpaintings... just ask).
My style is semirealistic, everypiece I make is fullshadded and colored
(i can make exceptions but, you have to ask for it. I'm a graphic designer too, so I'm able to work with abtract logos, isometric style, semi toony pieces, sketches, speedpaint gritty style, etc... ^^).
;
IMPORTANT (AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I WANT TO SAY AND WILL REPEAT EVERY SINGLE JOURNAL)
thanks so much to everyone who follows my work, the ones who ask for comissions, the ones that share my work with credits (in facebook, tumblr, forums or similar pages.), the ones that comment on my journals, pages and pieces, the ones that fav and watch here and in all my other galleries. You all are the reason I'm mamange to reach this far, and to grow every day bigger as an illustrator and as a professional, not onlyin the fandom, but in diferent areas of the field. Thanks to the ones that send notes or messages filled with good vibe and kindness. Working with you all, is one of the things i most enjoy, is an honor everytime a client ask me to draw their character or idea in my style, and that's why I put the best of me in everypiece is make. I'll do the best to continue this way for many many many years. So, besides if you help me here or not, you've already helped me doing all those things I mentioned in one way or another. so... Thanks. Thanks so much.
1-
Person: "do you draw porn too??? TO BAD! You lost me!... I believe you was a clean artist only... disrespect for you"
Me: "Well.. I can draw lots of things, and porn is one of those"
Person: "But that's the easy way... you're being lazy and a sold out artist, you should draw what you want to draw"
Me: "Have you considered I take commissions because I LIKE drawing what other peoples want? have you considered this is my job, and part important of it is drawing what other people need me to draw? have you considered I that maybe I don't have any problem iwth drawing porn?
-People, if you don't have any problem drawing porn or just want to draw porn... well.. Draw porn! there is nothing wrong on that as long as you don't hurt other people, or use the identity of real people or other fursonas without permission of their authors. There is nothing wrong with porn, I know lots of people don't like porn on furry things cause it may affect the iamge of the fandom, but sadly it's not about the porn, but about the people who think porn is bad... I didn't even liked to watch porn till i realised the artistic part of it (age 22), nowdays if i see porn I do it more searching for references than any other thing (as lots of artist do), and there is nothing wrong with that nor with seing porn to relief oneself... SO i don't tottally understand the whole "I don't like you, because you draw porn" (even if i likes your style, and all your other pieces, even if you drew them because someone else asked for it, even if you don't get turned on by that, even if it was just 1 porn piece for every 40 non porn pieces in your gallery), common! whats wrong with these people? I know they don't wanna hurt nobody, but it's like theydon't realise they're pushing what they like (or don't like) into everyone else.. and that's not okey.
2-
Person: "Almost everything you draw is furry things, why don't you draw other things?"
Me: "most of my clients ask for furry art... I like drawing furry art... most of my drawings are commissions for furry people... it have sence doesn't it? if most of my clients where fans of medieval fantasy and liked more human art than furry art, I would have my gallery full with that.. since I love medieval fantasy art too."
Person:: mmhhh... it has sence.
Somepeople just can't solve a "2+2" problem without help. Or at least that's how it looks at first sight. But is not that they're stupid or something, they just don't see the whole picture... Ilustration is my job, not just a hobbie... I draw what my clients ask me to draw... is not that dificult. That doens't means even that I'll draw everything other people ask for (I have a list of things I won't draw, cause I don't like those things myself, like "rape art", where a victim who doesn't asked for it (non consenting at all) got violented and/or assaulted in a sexual way)... I don't like rape art, I like consensual things (I'm okey with bdsm, spanks and even gore in sex, as long as everything is consensual), I know it's a little weird I don't like draw those things but I could easily draw a guy stabing another with a sword in a non consesual way ()
3-(this one was strange)
Person:"I don't like diapers nor babies, man... I'm not into that"
Me: "It's okey"
Person: "it is? you have drawn a lot of those things"
Me: "yes"
Person: "I don't like it... I'm not into that"
Me: "It's okey man... everyone have their tastes. I draw a lot f things. some of those pieces were made because a client asked for it and payed me for drawing it (yes, I had to clarify sometimes what mean "drawing for clients") and other ones were made because I wanted, I like those things, it's a cute topic to draw"
Person (confused): "sooo... are we cool?"
Me: "Shouldn't we?"
Person: "You're cool, man"
This friend of mine was confused for some reason, he was thinking i was going to infriend him or start an argument about why his dislikes are not okey or something like that... People can like or don't like whatever they want as long as don't harm other people with their actions. My friends, my watchers, my clients, even myself are not obligated to love every single theme or piece I (or any other artist/designer/illustrator) draw. that's insane. if you don't like X type of art but that type of art is not harming people, just ignore it, This friend of mine acted like if i where going to be mad at him for that... maybe I would be mad at me if he was in my place, or maybe he had knew other artists or people who get mad for that kind of comments. Likes and Dislikes are just that, a matter of subjetive (personal) tastes.
What do you guys/gals/gels/spagettiMonsters thinks of thiese kind of comments about my or your drawings or likes... have you experienced this? what do you think of these people? how have you handle these kind of situations? have you been in the other side? (the side of the one telling the other about not liking something?)
I'll like to hear your toughts...
ALSO... I'll like to ask you is there any things you like most and least about my drawing themes? any favorite or less favorite?
Do you consider it a good reason to unfriend someone or unwatch an artist just because he/she/they/it/Spagetti drawn something diferent to his tastes?
In other non related news... COMMISSIONS ARE OPEN
COMMISSION LIST (CURRENT STATUSS)
1º: HQ Portrait Commission for ShadowCommando Paid / In Process
2º: OPEN SLOT
3º: OPEN SLOT
4º: OPEN SLOT
5º: OPEN SLOT
If you're interested in seing some of my works you can visit my gallery here:
https://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/sannamy/
(almost) Anything you ask, I can surelly draw it. Feel free to ask (even fetishes, fullcompositions, action scenes, cute or horror themed pieces, humans, monsters, porn, weaposn, armors and props, refsheets, logos, banners, icons, photo overpaintings... just ask).
My style is semirealistic, everypiece I make is fullshadded and colored
(i can make exceptions but, you have to ask for it. I'm a graphic designer too, so I'm able to work with abtract logos, isometric style, semi toony pieces, sketches, speedpaint gritty style, etc... ^^).
;
IMPORTANT (AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I WANT TO SAY AND WILL REPEAT EVERY SINGLE JOURNAL)
thanks so much to everyone who follows my work, the ones who ask for comissions, the ones that share my work with credits (in facebook, tumblr, forums or similar pages.), the ones that comment on my journals, pages and pieces, the ones that fav and watch here and in all my other galleries. You all are the reason I'm mamange to reach this far, and to grow every day bigger as an illustrator and as a professional, not onlyin the fandom, but in diferent areas of the field. Thanks to the ones that send notes or messages filled with good vibe and kindness. Working with you all, is one of the things i most enjoy, is an honor everytime a client ask me to draw their character or idea in my style, and that's why I put the best of me in everypiece is make. I'll do the best to continue this way for many many many years. So, besides if you help me here or not, you've already helped me doing all those things I mentioned in one way or another. so... Thanks. Thanks so much.
Its great that artists can expand their talent to draw all sorts of things along their own comfort zone, and not strictly what others desire only. Like, we cant all please everyone. Its simply impossible. You make sone great points, mostly evolving around how its your profession, clients individuality, and your personal preferences.
For me, I will admit im not one for porn at all with sex or nudity, but thats what filters are for and just avoiding it, clicking away n what not. Its never ok to talk bad to the artist about it, harass about it, or anything that can be situated with bullying.
Ive had situations where people have thought I liked/ enjoyed a certain fedish because Ive drawn it for clients before or to practice examples. Simply I like to draw whayever is ranged in my own comfort zone, I dont just draw one subject whether I like it not. XD It wasnt a bad thing though or any arguments, just a misunderstanding is all. :)
Your drawing themes are very lovely. Course I personally always adore babyfur related ones. XD
But I also really like the Simple posed ones with nature environents. <3 Those are always pretty.
As well as the action packed scenes you do. Thetes not enough art of action going on! So its really cool to see those in your style. :) Action xan always make the picture seem more alive. <3
For Unfriending, I think is ridiculous honestly. The only way I could ever see that being is if someone was shoving something in your face that you dont like, yet they keep doing it even if they know it bothers you type deal. Wouldnt be too much of a nice friend. For instance, if I have a friend with me and they are uncomfortable with babyfur related stuff, I wouldnt talk to them about it or involve them in it, thats just polite and considerate.
If someone wants to unwatch however, then that should be alright I believe. That doesnt exactlly mean they dont like you. Heck Ive had friends unwatch some of my accounts cuz they liked to support me but later didnt really like the content that has been posted. And I can understand that cuz Ive had to do that too for my own comfort. But we all still talk and associate with one another still equally. :)
Indeed, Niko... people is free to unwatch if they want and that doesn't implies anything. It just can be a little sad when they just for 1 or 2 drawings. But yeah, their choice. ^^
Also, yeah...I totally understand, there are places and times for everything.. not everybody likes or is into the same as one, so sometimes one have to be carefull of what one do or share with other people, specially when you know they don't like that thing.
Again, thanks so much for taking your time to read and answer, my journals are kind of lonely sometimes. XD
Your journals/ discussions come from the heart and have really great points! :)
I think its a good thing to dicuss this sort of thing every once n a while amongst the community.
Thank you for the enlightment and encouragment for the community! ^_^
The ones I can't stand are the keyboard warrior types who look down on anyone who does any kind of porn or fetish art. Especially those who create fetish art but love certain types and hate others. That kind of hypocrisy makes me so frustrated because of how stupid it really is. Kudos to you for being able to be reasonable to people. People should mind their own business when it comes to artists creating art they don't like. Don't like it? Scroll past.
person: "Do you charge for your art? what kind of artist are you? you have to do it just because you love to do it. Is Art"
Me: "First. Technically speaking, I'm not an artist... I'm an Illustrator, I'm a Licenced Graphic Designer. Second. This is my job. I charge for what I do. I asume you just hate your job and want everyone to do things they hate for a living. that's not very kind of you"
person: "I can't make a living of playing videogames or soccer. I play them because I like it, it's a passion I don't do it by profit"
Me: "So if Konami asked you to be a game tester 8hs a day, or if the manchester united hired you to be in his international football team, would you do it, just for passion and don't ask a single dollar for your work?"
person: "That's diferent"
Me: "why?"
person: "because, those are professionals"
Me: "Woah... now you're being rude"
(things like this happen to a lot of people who work of what they love, specially artists).
or the whole dicussion about digital vs traditional, and how they want digital artists to charge less (less than cents and proably a thank you in some cases) instead of asking traditional ones to charge more... or just acept that both ways imply hardwork and study.
or the things about "the gift of drawing" vs "practice"... sure that artist draws better than you, they practiced and learned things while you where just procrastinating or using that time for something else... some people just don't get it.
Also.. thanks so much for taking the time to read the whole journal and comment, I really apreciate it. ^^