Yeah. same feels everyday. its hard to compete about the people who wants art in artist roll.
but still, dont give up. someday. successes, sometimes rainy day.

"Art in artist roll"? I'm sorry I don't know this term. What does it mean?

PS. I'd be happy if the sun came out occasionally. Just seems to be nothing but rain, all year round. 24/7. Anyway, not gonna give up just... Thinking I'll never make it as a professional artist.

Nah. shouldn't never ever tell yourself that your a failure.... nobody is that. we all have our flaws, but we are not a failure. that's just our inner demons. but you are better than that. if you have will-power, your shine, your light, you are best. you are a winner. :3 you are allowed to feel sad, angry... but you are your own being. you control your own reality. but. you need to decide yourself if you are willing to move on.

also. i am on your plane too, i havent had costumers in years. even my prices arent huge. pff. but i dont care. =) i have some work aside from artist.

Artist Roll = popular artist / hierarchy
rainy day = broke / money less

I don't want to move on because I still wanna be a professional artist. But, I might need to because I can't keep doing this and being a no one who gets no where. The other thing is, I have no idea what else I am good at that people would want to pay me for.

And, seriously? You don't get commissions a whole lot? That surprises me. Your art IS good. But, also I feel like I cannot give away my art. I did my superhero line up and literally no one has entered yet after it has been up for days.  ShoNuff44 put his up and they're usually filled up within hours. Like, literally, I tried to get into a few and by the time I finished my art it was already filled, and I draw quick.

Not meant like move on from artist thing, meant moving on from depressions. take one day after each other, dont go around worry about it too much
but everything will eventually fall into places.... hard climbing the mountain, but will be there. someday! positivity will help too.

you're right, just, hard to stay positive sometimes. You know?

No.

To which part?

You are not a failure.

Then why do so few people look at my art? I know it's shallow but, I want everyone to like me >.<

Popularity is a fickle thing. The best you can do is just keep putting out work and be thankful for the friends you have that admire your work(myself included).

I am. Please don't think I'm not. I love everyone who favs my work frequently. It always makes me feel like I actually have fans lol. But, I just... I wanna get paid. lol.

Dunno what to tell you there. I'm not exactly getting them by the barrelful either. lol

lol, not to mention, my line up, no ones entered. When  ShoNuff44 does his line ups they fill up in a few hours, if not less than an hour. I've had mine up for days and bubkis. Now, I KNOW I'm not as good as him but, I feel like I can't even give my stuff away.

every thing you said in this journal is exactly precise to how I feel everyday and why I left FA in the first place. You're no failure, that's me lol. All I can think is that if you have so many watchers, then you're obviously doing something right, I care for you and for your art.

Every time I post a rant like this I get a lot who ignore me and I feel I'm treated like shit, that worsens my depression and greatly angers me. At least you have a lot of people who respond to you, I get little to none -_-

I cant pay people for art or do commissions, Patreon etc. for a reason but it's something I won't explain...

Honestly, I feel like you have more people who care about you than you realize. And most of the time, you get more comments than I do. I keep losing contests and even when I put up things like my line up, no one enters. Like my art as a reward isn't worth their time... therefore I'm not worth their time...

no not really, not a lot of people care for me. you have like over a 1000 watchers and a girlfriend/mate, that's something you oughta be happy about. I had almost 260 on my previous account and I wrote a journal about my new account and only 36 showed up :/ I watch one person who watched me back but she doesn't even pay attention to my content at all as if there's no reason for her to watch me lol (I think you know who that might be) I honestly sometimes don't care about comments, I care more about the favs. Raffles and contests are very hard to do imo so I don't get frustrated about that. I don't think I have anything more than you by a longshot. I rather you don't see yourself as the failure because if anybody is the biggest failure it's me. You're worth everyone's time as opposed to me. Even if do Patreon or commissions, who in the hell would pay for my art? lol

*hugs* Thank you for saying so, and, don't get me wrong I'm greatful for what I have and I love my fiance more than life it's self. My love life and family life is great, but, I also wanna be something as an artist. I want people to notice me and show how much they want my stuff that when I offer it, people drop their shit and come get it.

*hugs* believe you me I'm grateful for my family always but I wish for the same thing being a successful artist and all...

I know how you feel. That's exactly how I feel. I want my art to be loved, shared, enjoyed. Not just, nobody noticed that it exists or those that see it and judge it go, "Eh... not a winner."

i'm in your same shoes

It's so annoying when you look at the winners to and think, "Mine was waaaay better than that!" Not that I can't hack losing. If I see something I think is on the same level or better than mine I'll be like, "Ehm, whatever." But when it looks obviously worse and more rushed than mine and it beats me, I'm like, "... really?"

in your situation, it sounds like I would throw something in frustration :/

Lol, I'm not a chucker. I'm more likely to make funny sarcastic comments to myself while appearing supportive and respectful to the artist and judge because I don't wanna be the jerk ass in the situation.

I see what you mean, what about flipping tables?

If I flipped a table I just know I'd have to clean it up.

ah lol. idk if I saw art worse than mine winning over me in a contest, this might be my initial reaction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Xqgp4s8qk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbfvR5JOts8 This was my reaction.

lol game grumps

Your not helping anyone saying your a failure hun no ones a failure not even you. ❤

well it's the truth that I am a failure, was hoping Halfeb realizes he's no failure at all and that i'm the only one

Nah dude, you ain't no failure. You only fail when you give up.

Failure bah hate to tell you that you've got a loving family and tuns of friends that love you and a devoted fiancé who's going to marry you. ❤❤❤❤❤💑❤❤❤❤❤

Well, family wise I'm great, sure. I do love my family and you for sure. But, as an artist, I just think I'm not doing like a professional artist should. I never get commissions, or offers for when I offer things for free. Fricking free!

Having art free helps practice. Every inventor or creator wasn't perfect they all started from nothing. Honey I love you and your acting just like I was yesterday when I was depressed and I completely understand were your coming from. I love you so much and there's nothing you can say or do to make me love you any less.
❤

I knw love. I never would think for a second that I don't have you behind me 100%. It's why that cheerleader song remind me of you because I know I fond my own personal cheerleader in you. It's my professional life that I feel horrid about.

Take in consideration that not everyone has money, and if they do, thier mind races over the millions of artists to commission out there. You can only get better hun, age doesn't matter unless you make it matter. You just gotta keep practicing and posting until you're content, no one can like you, if you don't like yourself nor what you post. You gotta find the love and passion in your art and just keep posting and posting, don't rely on numbers and favs, rely on YOUR PASSION. Did you love the drawing you made? Never be afraid to post a drawing you took an hour on, you can always redo it and get better and better and soon you will rise up among us. Its not about ability.. People can sense passion in work too, go to streams watch artists, see how they do thier work. Even if me and you sold the same lets say waitress base icons for 3$, what would make you stand out? Maybe you shade them while i leave it blank. it just depends on effort sometimes or chance. you gotta keep rolling the dice. Never stop believing in yourself. You told me you're honored to have me as an amazing artist watching you. Halfeb I didn't not only just find you because of the christmas giftart, its also because you show passion to keep trying and you work hard, and your stuff is truly interesting! We gotta remember time is a factor in our world and sometimes the right people can only find you at the right time. It sucks to wait, I know. But that's how life works. There's a lot of mistakes even "good" artist's make. Anatomy, shading positioning,CUSTOMER SERVICE (dear lord don't get me started on that one.),, look through your art, what do you seem to do best? USE THAT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE.


Anyways. Don't be sad. Artblock is tough but yu're the coolest senpai I know, keep at it.

I know what you are saying. I do look at some of my pieces and just think, "fuck that's awesome..." Then look and see it's got like 5 favs and I'm like, "But... it's awesome... why wouldn't more people love it like I do?"

I know art is a forever growing and evolving process for artists and I'm far from alone. I just, I wish more people liked my stuff. Enough to actually make a living off it and survive because people like my stuff as much as I do.

I'm not gonna stop. I mean, it's hard but, I don't know if it will ever progress about level of doing it as a hobby to professional artist.

I'm in the same place dude. I wish i never had to say "Emergency art, please help" in all/half my submissions, it IS an emergency, but i wish i could be like 10$ headshots! come and get them!" -so I can pay my rent or something-. Not everyone is gonna make it out there. But you are still young, and learning and growing. You're as young as your mind wants to be. And as long as you keep in your mind, that things will get better, they will. i don't get anymore than 12 favs,OVER TIME. maybe on once piece, even if its detailed. Sometimes people comment, sometimes they don't i never know whats anyones thinking, and i don't know why they may or may not like it, but just make variety and make sure you train hard enough to do something about your art. just keeping making it better.

People do like your art, and sometimes you gotta cater to the ones you do have caring and then expand out.

Thanks. I did a "What should I draw journal" a while back and literally no one answered so, it's kinda hard to know. I mean, I get more comments when I draw Halfeb but get more favs when I draw Yuna. I have no idea what the hell that even means!

Not to mention it's hard to not think people dislike my art when I do something like my line up and only one person says they'll join in. It's frustrating. Then I send off 5 different entries into competitions (one even was offering an ongoing job for the winner) and I just get back a whole lot of "LOSER"s. None of them said that literally of course they were nice and either just announced the winner or said "Very sorry but we've chosen someone else and thank you for your entry." Of course all I read is "LOSER! LOSER! LOSER! YOU ARE A HUGE LOSER!" well, not each time, but when it happens several times in a row, it hits it home, you know?

Job applicants are the same way, its a matter of chance, i hate getting emails back saying they went with someone else, when i have certificates in certain things etc.

Also, thousands of journals get deleted daily, you need to start posting "requests" submissions and the link your journal. And sometimes I "comment" by faving. that's how FA works.
i tend to like supirsing people :p

Also, if you think people dislike your art. you dislike your art. And that means you need to keep pushing to get better! No more moping around, get to work! its a dog eat dog world in the artist community, and you gotta fight your way through literally millions of postings everyday. Reposting things, posting wips Start seeing what others do and use it to your advantage.

a competition is a competition. There's gonna be a winner, and there's gonna be a loser. That's how it is. Again, you need to realize that even if someone is basically the same level as you, content, efforts, style all play apart in making you art stand out. An old friend of mine does art with a mouse, but because of his content he gets lots of views/watchers etc. i get jealous because of it a lot, but i also won't lower my standards. I'll just keep getting better till people want my shit.


Just cause someone went onto another entry, doesn't mean YOU SUCKED, you just didn't meet their needs, like everyone else who lost in there. Remember when posting in competitions, you are also posting your art over there, people look through your submissions hun and you may or may not get a watch or a little interest.


For example i did a trade with I offered them a trade or offer to pay option. There was three people competing (basically) two of them were commissioned. I was to do an art trade. Sucks right? WRONG Even tho i didn't get cash,, the value of my art is still there. They'll be sharing it with loved ones and friends, and its still spread and passed down, maybe opportunities will arise because of it, maybe it won't. But that doesn't stop me from trying!

Well, I'm not going to stop making art. I enjoy it too much. I gonna keep going and making art if, for no other reason, it just feels good to get that stuff out of my head and onto the page. I do notice I get a lot of watchers when I enter the competitions.

Please don't misunderstand, I think most of my art is great, and sure some of it needs improving and I'm gonna keep working on it, but you know, vindication is nice too. I mean, you gotta understand, I have had a life time of people telling me I have bad taste in music, movies, games and other stuff. (not to mention my ideas.) I like what I like and I've come to be okay with that, but, it's lead me to think when I like something, that kinda doesn't mean anything to anyone else and, I would like it to. It's the reason I want to win awards and competitions and land jobs doing what I love to do so I know that in this big wide world people like my tastes, like what I do. That I'm not.. I'm not alone in this...

I'm just gonna put this out there, you're actually more popular than me, by far and I don't even charge anyone for my work. My viewership is at about 4, it used to be 1 about two years ago. You better believe that got me depressed for a while, heck I considered just deleting everything and leaving.

I realized the same thing that I try to tell everyone else that posts this same journal, that it's not about skill. Every person has a different starting point when it comes to skill. Some start out understanding the ins and outs of anatomy, perspective, composition and color. Some start out knowing how to connect five lines to a circle. Sometimes what resonates with people isn't the detail, or color, or exactness; it's the feeling they get looking at it. Some people get weak in the knees looking at the Mona Lisa, while some faint from a black canvas with a spot of white. If getting better is your goal, then you never stop improving, but realize there is no end to reach there. With each picture you find something small to improve upon, little by little making changes and adjustments, over years. You keep doing that, keep pushing what is possible for you, not for others, but for you. The others already touched on this, so I won't go further with it.

Sometimes it can be the luck of the draw, the time of day can be a factor, or the number of people actually online, or the amount of backlog journals/deviations people need to view. I literally spend up to 6 hours a day, just reading and commenting on journals, viewing, faving and commenting on pictures; while responding to maybe one comment to me, on various sites. It's exhausting and cuts well into my time to paint or do anything else. If I'm working, I have even less time to comment on anything or paint. But I do it, because the last time I tried to focus on my job, all but one of my friends stopped commenting, faving, viewing my work, for four years. Only one of which started watching me again recently.

I know that you want recognition and heck, even money, but that can't be your main goal when it comes to art. Art is a means of expression and when you forsake that, you're beholden to the dark side of ambition, where no amount of attention or money will satiate your needs. You're a good guy, with lots of wit, a lady that loves you, some watchers that care about you and a gallery of cool art. Despite what I've said, it's good that you got this off your chest and didn't keep it bottled up. I hope you start feeling better and regain confidence in yourself. *hug*

Yeah, I know what you are right and, yeah I do want recognition more than anything. I know money would come later but I just want people to look at my stuff and see my stuff how I see it, and love it and want more. I want my work to be desired and some validation that my stuff is good, not just in my eyes. *hugs*

Just a bit hard when you get told its not winning material time and time again.

Me too man, it would be nice.

I pay no attention to elitists, they're scum. If a person tells you you're no good and doesn't offer any constructive criticism, their opinion is meaningless.

*hug*

*hugs*

Most artists are having this problem, the only ones that maybe don't are the ones on the very top. I have to beg for commissions and I continue to try and improve on at least a weekly basis even it's a little. It's up to you whether or not you are a failure. And up to you if you want to keep trying or not. There will be those that can support you either way. All the best.

Yeah I know. At the time of writing this I was seriously down and doubting myself. I had lost a competition to a piece I felt I was definately better than (not that I cannot handle losing and a lot of others in the competition I felt were stronger than mine, just not the one the judge chose) and I had done a line up, which was free and no one was joining. But, in the end, 2 artists did join so, that's better nothing. Feeling more confident now though.

Glad to hear it.