Nothing may happen, but nothing will get done if I don't try
8 years ago
Please be sure to read everything, every detail is important:
Seriously... Read everything.. if you look away or stop reading, it only proves my point.
Let's talk about opinions.. "Oh no! You mean that thing that if I talk about, I am ridiculed by half the internet!? That's suicide man!"
But completely serious here. Fuck political correctness, screw the heavy feminists, the PC Master Race and Console Wars, Trump v Hillary, and for the main topic of this Journal: Artist v Style. I have had enough, I am doing a journal on opinions because I have had to deal with this for over a YEAR now, and on top of others who I try my best to keep on track with their depression, having to deal with my own personal school work, stories, and the death of two of my best friends, I am not holding back any more.. I may be broken by the end of this, but if this is going to do anything, I don't care anymore
Those of you who know me will know that I am level headed and kind, considerate, if a bit stern. I try to be. I grew up under a hard knock southern family household, learned to keep my mouth shut, smile, grin and bear it, while also helping and standing for others that I believe in. Such could be found on the oath I made near the bottom of my user page description. But now, I am going to step outside of the box, and oh boy, do I rarely do that.
Opinions are NOT facts. Something you all have heard of before, right? Then why the hell do a good few of you not follow it? I am not saying that any one particular person here does it, but people do this.. a lot more than we would like to admit. And the worst part is that it is natural, like breathing, for us to want to make others believe in what we believe. It provides a sense of unity and lets you know that there are others who agree with you, giving you a comforting and safe feeling. It is also why we feel offended and threatened when someone denies our opinions or flat out calls an opinion "false" (which I will get into later). We feel attacked, left out, vulnerable, and frankly insulted, and ya that's what happens. But we all need to remember once again that opinions are not fact.
Why do I bring this up? It is not common from what I see (and I could be just missing it a lot of the time) But some special set of people in this community apparently think that because they think that a person's art style is bad, that it is their duty to make sure that others think that too. It happened to
Dreiker on e621 about half to 3/4 ths of a year ago, and it is happening to someone else I know now. Not going to name any names, because frankly I am friends with one of the people who are doing the offensive side of things, and if that person is reading this right now, you know who you are, and I don't mean to attack you through this, but something needs to be said.
Why do artists do things the way they do things? Because each person is different. Style is something unique to each person because we each have our own unique method of getting things done. Sure, multiple people may follow the same path of getting things done, but there is not going to be one set of foot prints on that track if you catch my drift. It is fine to say that you disagree with a certain style, or that you think that an artist could be better, but this needs to be done when speaking one to one with another person or group, or if stated in public, it must be accompanied by the words "I think" or "in my opinion". The moment you say something like "His art style is not good" or "His style has become worse over the years" Are two of the most common statements I see, and it only does 3 things. It makes you look like an ass, it makes others feel bad if they in fact do like the style, and it heavily insults the artist.
Another thing. You can not, under any circumstances, say to another person that their opinion is wrong, unless the subject is fact based. But guess what, preference is not fact based, it IS an opinion.
Why do people do this? It baffles me. If someone does not like an artist's style, then black list them or just ignore it or something.. nobody is "forcing" you to look at their art, and if someone brings it up, they are definitely not doing it to spite you.. for god's sake, the world is not out to get anybody here, and that is just concerning opinions in general.
Sorry about the rant.. And I may have been a bit illogical about this entire rant, and yes, I do think of this as a rant, and I apologize about this. It is just that a lot has been happening to me recently, and I have been beating myself up over and over again for not being able to handle things, getting the stories done, and balancing everything that I need to do.. but priorities are priorities, and I know I can deal with them.
Just, whoever you are, and this is in general: Have thick skin. The world is always going to have someone who is going to hate someone. That is why there will never be world peace. In order for that to happen, people can't have an opinion. So ya, be ready to encounter these people, because they won't care for what you have to say. Those groups I mentioned at the beginning are prime examples. And on the other side, please.. Before you say something, really think to yourself about how your words will affect others, their opinion of you and the person you are talking about as well as if it will have any real affect.. If you are just saying something to incite conflict, then see a therapist, or get a hobby, their is either something very wrong with you, or you are way to bored with what you have.
Once again, I apologize for this.. but if you think my message is good enough to be spread, please, for the love of everything, spread this message by either linking it or saying something to the same effect.. I took the time, I know you can too. I took the risk, and now I will take the flack. I am not scared.
If you would like to comment, please go right ahead.. I encourage it actually.. please, it would really help, considering that there is not counter that I know of that lets me know how many people look at these, and I put a lot of effort into these.. It helps a little.
I wish you all a great day, and please.. Make someone happy today. It sounds preachy today, but seriously.. It's the human thing to do. It may help more than you could ever know
Let's talk about opinions.. "Oh no! You mean that thing that if I talk about, I am ridiculed by half the internet!? That's suicide man!"
But completely serious here. Fuck political correctness, screw the heavy feminists, the PC Master Race and Console Wars, Trump v Hillary, and for the main topic of this Journal: Artist v Style. I have had enough, I am doing a journal on opinions because I have had to deal with this for over a YEAR now, and on top of others who I try my best to keep on track with their depression, having to deal with my own personal school work, stories, and the death of two of my best friends, I am not holding back any more.. I may be broken by the end of this, but if this is going to do anything, I don't care anymore
Those of you who know me will know that I am level headed and kind, considerate, if a bit stern. I try to be. I grew up under a hard knock southern family household, learned to keep my mouth shut, smile, grin and bear it, while also helping and standing for others that I believe in. Such could be found on the oath I made near the bottom of my user page description. But now, I am going to step outside of the box, and oh boy, do I rarely do that.
Opinions are NOT facts. Something you all have heard of before, right? Then why the hell do a good few of you not follow it? I am not saying that any one particular person here does it, but people do this.. a lot more than we would like to admit. And the worst part is that it is natural, like breathing, for us to want to make others believe in what we believe. It provides a sense of unity and lets you know that there are others who agree with you, giving you a comforting and safe feeling. It is also why we feel offended and threatened when someone denies our opinions or flat out calls an opinion "false" (which I will get into later). We feel attacked, left out, vulnerable, and frankly insulted, and ya that's what happens. But we all need to remember once again that opinions are not fact.
Why do I bring this up? It is not common from what I see (and I could be just missing it a lot of the time) But some special set of people in this community apparently think that because they think that a person's art style is bad, that it is their duty to make sure that others think that too. It happened to

Why do artists do things the way they do things? Because each person is different. Style is something unique to each person because we each have our own unique method of getting things done. Sure, multiple people may follow the same path of getting things done, but there is not going to be one set of foot prints on that track if you catch my drift. It is fine to say that you disagree with a certain style, or that you think that an artist could be better, but this needs to be done when speaking one to one with another person or group, or if stated in public, it must be accompanied by the words "I think" or "in my opinion". The moment you say something like "His art style is not good" or "His style has become worse over the years" Are two of the most common statements I see, and it only does 3 things. It makes you look like an ass, it makes others feel bad if they in fact do like the style, and it heavily insults the artist.
Another thing. You can not, under any circumstances, say to another person that their opinion is wrong, unless the subject is fact based. But guess what, preference is not fact based, it IS an opinion.
Why do people do this? It baffles me. If someone does not like an artist's style, then black list them or just ignore it or something.. nobody is "forcing" you to look at their art, and if someone brings it up, they are definitely not doing it to spite you.. for god's sake, the world is not out to get anybody here, and that is just concerning opinions in general.
Sorry about the rant.. And I may have been a bit illogical about this entire rant, and yes, I do think of this as a rant, and I apologize about this. It is just that a lot has been happening to me recently, and I have been beating myself up over and over again for not being able to handle things, getting the stories done, and balancing everything that I need to do.. but priorities are priorities, and I know I can deal with them.
Just, whoever you are, and this is in general: Have thick skin. The world is always going to have someone who is going to hate someone. That is why there will never be world peace. In order for that to happen, people can't have an opinion. So ya, be ready to encounter these people, because they won't care for what you have to say. Those groups I mentioned at the beginning are prime examples. And on the other side, please.. Before you say something, really think to yourself about how your words will affect others, their opinion of you and the person you are talking about as well as if it will have any real affect.. If you are just saying something to incite conflict, then see a therapist, or get a hobby, their is either something very wrong with you, or you are way to bored with what you have.
Once again, I apologize for this.. but if you think my message is good enough to be spread, please, for the love of everything, spread this message by either linking it or saying something to the same effect.. I took the time, I know you can too. I took the risk, and now I will take the flack. I am not scared.
If you would like to comment, please go right ahead.. I encourage it actually.. please, it would really help, considering that there is not counter that I know of that lets me know how many people look at these, and I put a lot of effort into these.. It helps a little.
I wish you all a great day, and please.. Make someone happy today. It sounds preachy today, but seriously.. It's the human thing to do. It may help more than you could ever know
There are facts that exist, and making light of those facts is alright, but don't mix fact's and opinions on things up based on what you believe to be true. What truly matters is to do what you can to help others and try to do what you can to support. If you don't like something or someone, then you aren't forced to stay, and are not obligated to say how bad it is. If those claims are made as opinions, and are stated to be as such, it's fine...but to say that they are facts only makes the person come off as being mean, selfish and rude. So, unless you have constructive criticism for why something is "in your opinion" bad, please say that and don't just claim what you say as being the only truth.
I think that's all I really have to say...sorry for the long post.
Oh, and there really should be counter for journal views...it would be really helpful to have I think.
Thank you for these words
Thank you for taking the time to respond to this, and ya I wish journals could be treated just like submissions in the regard of status and faving. maybe one day~
Are you reffering to my comments on this?:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/22748162/
Anyways I do apologize if I'm bugging you a bit to much.
But thank you for your time reading this journal.
I don't think people should have announce whether or not what they feel or say about something is an opinion or not. And if they want to say something non-constructive, then that's their prerogative. Doing otherwise is more or less censoring their opinions if they have to give disclaimers or be careful of what they say because it could potentially hurt someone's feelings. It's up to the person receiving those opinions, strong or not, to either accept them, shrug them off as unhelpful and ignore them, or ask the person why he or she thinks what they think, at which point if the person can't give any real inkling as to why they feel the way they do, then their opinion is pretty much moot.
Everything else I can say I agree upon, though. Opinions are not weapons and shouldn't be used as such. Just because someone doesn't agree with the opinion doesn't make them wrong. I will say that think it's okay to make a case to have others agree with your opinion, but but certainly not for the sake of being right or spiteful towards people.
Thank you for giving me your feed back, I definitely see what you are saying, but I also have this to say: Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can break the heart. I have thick skin, but not all people do.. It is food for though to remember who you are talking to if you are going to be expressing opinions openly~
Again, thank you
You're welcome, though!