I play both console and PC games, but i have always preferred console imo, it's easier to just pick up and play, more comfortable, and all my friends are on console. My PC also isn't very good, but plan to hopefully build one in the future

Historically I would have said that consoles were good for whole pick up and play aspect, as well as convenience. But the current gen (Xbox One and PS4) seem to have gone out of their way to prevent that, putting up more walls between turning on and playing game :P

More comfortable? What's more comfortable exactly, in what way? That's a bit loose x3

Well, current gen consoles require you to install a disc game, which this helps with performance of the game, as console games are getting too advanced to run on a mere disc anyway X3, but after that initial install you can just sit down, pick up and play, PC has done that for many years so that shouldn't really be a problem.

As for comfort, I can sit back when i'm using a controller, but when i'm using mouse and keyboard on a PC, i have to sit up and i can't do that for very long. Controllers are also more comfortable to use for me, keyboard and mouse takes up quite a bit of space

Ah, fair enough on the comfort thing. I can understand that. Not an issue to me but I understand it can be for others.
I agree that controllers are ergonomic, but there are plenty of (cheap) ergonomic computer peripherals out there. Which I have, because otherwise my wrists would be pure cartilage by now xD

The whole "takes up too much space" thing kinda falls apart when you consider that you'll already have a space dedicated to the computer and monitor anyway so it's kinda moot. (assuming we're talking about a full on PC, not a laptop.).

I have a laptop, and don't have much space in my room, so was just referring to my setup.

I could probably list more reasons why i prefer console, but I didn't get much sleep last night XD

Well with a laptop it doesn't matter. Since it's got a built in keyboard.

At the moment I don't play consoles but I can list a few draws for it off the top of my head.

Console exclusives.
Portability; it's much easier to take your console over to a friend's house than it is a PC. Granted, laptops make this easier but it's still not quite as plug'n'play.
Nostalgia.
Comfort.
For some, the controller is a more intuitive device than most PC inputs. This is becoming less and less of an issue these days. That said the reverse is that PC inputs are more sensitive and accurate.

Console exclusives are extremely anti-consumer. They aren't so much exclusives, as they are consoles holding games hostage to get you to buy the console. It's pretty archaic to be honest. Especially when we consider all of the gold dust pixels games are made of these days (that is to say, game development ain't cheap) it seems counter intuitive to then narrow the potential buyers. I just don't see any reason for it is me point, when most distribution is as universal as it is. I mean, why wouldn't publishers want more people to give them money? Seems rather backwards in my eyes *shrugs*

Back in say, the cartridge era yeah exclusives were a bit more forgivable since consoles had different cart slots or whatever.

Portability....now that is a pretty good reason. I can't deny that. Trust me I've lugged a PC and all it's parts from one house to another, it's quite the pain in the arse xD
Consoles you can just stick in a carrier bag and BOOM! You're good to go. Not like you need to take a whole TV with you :D

Nostalgia. Would you mind expanding on that? You have me intrigued :3 (same for comfort).

As for the input methods: since switching to mainly gaming on PC it'd feel very strange going back to a controller. Personally I think they're worse than mouse and keyboard, but as a means of connecting man to machine by way of thumbs, controllers are a perfectly adequate conduit. The disadvantage there however is that PC allows for many more input methods for say, those who might have restricted movements, disabilities etc. But granted, that's quite a niche case.
Fair enough though, input methods are a case of preference more than anything else we could discuss....other than, games themselves x3

well I play games on single player or "console" when I am away from my computer, but normally I play my PS2, or nintendo when I want to be alone with my thoughts.

Nostalgia is a good answer for the nintendo.

Gameboy just something to keep my mind busy when in a doctor's office or something.

Mainly I was referring to consoles of the current generation. Because frankly older generations have far more advantages to their name than PCs of the past.

But nostalgia is one of few reasons I still have consoles around. Because sometimes you just wanna play an old classic.

I play console games! It's just something I've always done since the N64!

No particular reasons? Just force of habit kinda thing?

I'm content.

Fair dos. I myself see its flaws, and aren't happy with them. But props to you.

Why Thank You!

At the end of the day, we all wanna play games. But talking about HOW we do it doesn't hurt, so long as we keep it civil. Which we all are :D

Indeed!

I still play and stream console and retro games, and also handheld and arcade ones. Got my Twitch and Youtube channels for Longplays and Speedruns, and I also collect trophies and achievements on PSN and XBL services. owo

I play on both (pc died so now im mostly on console) i admit that they both have their up and down
PC you having to spend almost twice what you would on a console in order to play current and new games

And consoles are limited in games and most games require you to pay to play online
But the main reason why i play on console is for exclusive games like bloodborne, Nioh, Ni No Kuni, and some upcoming games that are for the PS4 look like they're gonna be fun

"PC you having to spend almost twice what you would on a console in order to play current and new games"

What? Where are you buying games on PC? Nearly all multi-platform games on PC are cheaper than console. Mainly because PC primarily uses digital distribution which, unlike physical releases, doesn't have to cover for overhead.

Pay to play online is a huge scam if you ask me. "Hey you already pay your ISP for an internet connection, but now you also have to pay us to connect to that internet service to play games online!"

As for exclusives, I'm going to ask this: Would you still buy those games on that particular console, if you could buy it anywhere? So would you buy it on a different console given the chance?

I don't mean expensive games, i mean the PC in general, i cam get a 499$ Pc that runs most games on low ir medium while better looking ones ill be playing at an amazing 5fps, i need to dish out a lot of money if i want a good PC and ill need a good battlestation along with it

While a console i just buy it, plug it and play (and it should go that i use my console mainly for Single player games and all of those good japanese rpg games available on there)

And if it was on PC, yeah, id buy it, probably need to get a new PC to even run those games in A playable way, also i have a mouse and keyboard for FPS games on console, bevause there's no replacing that with a controller

OOoh apologies, I misread your comment. The wording had me interpret it as talking about games. With that in mind however;
Yes I won't try and sugercoat it, a midrange PC is kind of expensive. But for $500 you could easily get one that played most games at consistent 60 on medium graphics settings, easy.
And sure getting into PC gaming is expensive, inititally.
But after that initial investment it's considerably cheaper than playing on consoles, especially when you factor in cheaper games and not having to pay for online multiplayer. Those two are the real stinger that most people don't realise. I certainly didn't for the longest time, even after switching to PC.

Granted consoles do have some degree of reliability. I can't say no to that. But it's still weaker hardware overall, and games still run worse. I'll posit to the end of the Earth that PC is better in every way (or....nearly every way at least).

But I can't stop people if they wanna console. I'll just give reasons as to why it's worse that's all. We all free to do what we want in life after all :3

Still, thanks for your points and joining in. As well as keeping it civil. Whenever I have this kinda talk with anyone there's always shit fits xD

Don't worry, i love these kind of talks, i get to know other people's opinion, and i might be wrong or i might be wrong and you do have some solid points, but also a reason(Personally how i see the consoles)
Is that Xbox is more for FPS and FPS multiplayer people, while PS4 has a shit ton of good rpg's and weird games that are pretty interesting
The wii has nostalgia and PC is mostly multiplayer and fun

Also all my irl friends have a PS4 so that was a big reason, along with bloodborne

But I honestly wanna get back on PC again, i invested so much shit on steam games and i miss getting insulted on CS:GO for being a furry. And I personally think g everyone shoyld own a PC, and maybe 1 console MAX, for single player games

Simply having the console all your friends play on is a fair enough point. Of the few advantages I could think of off the top of my head (and believe me, there are very few advantages), that's one I never considered. It's pretty situational, but it can be very enticing when all your friends play on the same platform.

Back during the early life-span on the 360 I was still in secondary school, and pretty much everyone I knew and considered a friend played on the 360. So I've been there myself, I know very much what that feels like. Aaah, good times.

I'd disagree with the very narrow summaries of what the platforms offer....but now having said that I'm gonna counter my own point by saying, they are just broad summaries xD Good job me! Thanks me! For reals though, the PC easily offers the broadest selection of games imaginable, no contest. I even count older, previous generation titles into that statement.

I do both, but truth be told I play consoles for older generations. Haven't even played anything past the 360. I prefer PC for newer games, but for me, it's a lot of nostalgia for why I pick up a controller and turn on the console.

I started out with an NES back in the day, and there's just something about popping a game into the console and starting it up for the first time that never gets old for me.

And to play devil's advocate, I can see the draw for newer gen as well, considering things like console exclusives, maybe less worrying about hardware capabilities (depending on the game, developer, etc.), and for the social thing. It's a lot easier to play something as a local co-op on console than it is for PC, assuming the game has said feature.

I'm in the same boat as you as far as consoles are concerned. The only ones I keep around are because there's plenty of guaranteed good, old games kicking about that I'll know I want to go back to at some point. As for me I started out on the N64 at the age of three (still got the same one, too). Even to this day clicking a cartridge into that little thing makes me wiggle with childlike glee x3

Sure exclusives can be a draw, but they're the wrong kind of draw. Mainly because consoles exclusives simply aren't a good thing, since they're hugely anti-consumer and if anything else, not good for the publishers. Modern triple-A game development is a time and money black hole, but then they turn to the audience and say "Now only some of you are allowed to give us your money". Considering the triple-a games market is run by corporate fat cats....it just seems really backwards to me. Get rid of console exclusives, make the games multi-platform, more gamers get to play them, publishers and developers get more money because more people get to play them. Honestly it's baffling the suits in charge still aggressively cling-on to exclusivity.

Couch co-op is actually far less prevalent in the current gen that a lot of people realise. In fact so few console games even have split-screen multiplayer anymore. But historically, yes I would attribute consoles as having the couch co-op advantage (when I say historically, I also include last gen). Not to say they outright don't do couch multiplayer but it's not as big of an advantage compared to previously. In fact the last time I even played split-screen multiplayer was on my aforementioned N64 with good old Goldeneye just a couple years ago. Fuck me that's a good time <3

First of all: Fuck you, you made me feel old. I Was 12-ish when the n64 came out.
Second: if you're interested in classic gaming, and for that click-in-the-system deal (totally with you on that one), you should check this link out.

To state in advance, I completely agree with you. They're shooting themselves in the foot by essentially saying "neener neener, you can't have this game because you don't have the right system." But to provide a counterpoint, from a marketing perspective, I can see why they do it. If a game looks good enough, and people want it enough, they might go out and get a new system just for this game. And after they have the system, well then, it just doesn't make any sense not to keep getting OTHER games for it, does it?

Sad, but you're right. couch co-op is going the way of the dodo. It seems that Nintendo is the last bastion for it, since all the other systems seem to be promoting pretty heavily their online co-op in various forms. Which, by god, thank you Nintendo. That's a lot of what I loved about the old systems. Sitting down, playing a game, and talking shit to someone sitting right next to you. That's when the GOOD insults come out. Because you had to choose your words carefully. Go to far, and congrats, it's not like voice chat where you have no consequences, they can (and often WILL) punch you in the face-type region. Also, I miss Goldeneye. I had a lot of good multiplayer memories from that game. And I was so happy to see it get reborn with Goldeneye: Source. new memories, good nostalgia, and I can play it with online friends and open a whole new world of shit talking. Good times.

First of all: Not my fault you're old >:D Ahahahah! Sorry, that wasn't fair x3

And what you said about console exclusives, good point. Doesn't make it any less anti-consumer, good marketing or not. It's just greedy corporations that's all. But sadly that's what controls the industry.

Again, I don't disagree. It would be nice if people just up and did away with the exclusives and let whoever wanted to play on whatever system they had (that can support the game in question) have a go at it. But at the end of the day, we're not going to be able to get rid of human greed any time soon.

Mhm. Avarice is quite the unpleasant vice.

I play console games primarily cause there's a lot of games I like for the PS4. Plus my computer isn't good enough to run most PC games. I hope to get a better one in the future, but right now I'm saving up for other things. X3

PC gamer here, I like my freedom to do whatever and whenever :3

And there's the simple essence of PC gaming. Freedom! An open-platform is a good platform! :D

Can play all of the older PC games also! Without having to re-purchase them even!

Backwards capability is getting just downright abusive on consoles now, You buy a game and have to buy it again on the next one?

At least with PC you can still play like everything still, its silly when you think about how much money is wasted on consoles from equipment to games, towards vip services (playstation plus and xbox gold and whatnot), DLCS...

Then like 4 years its a paperweight that depends on internet services that are now disabled. (I still can game on my Windows XP computer when the games are newer than its OS) Go figure.

Cant even play online without a membership fee (xboxone/ps4) its just ... NAH no thanks. (I already pay for internet I don't need to pay like your internet bills also am I right?).

"Backwards compatibility? What's that?" say the console manufacturers as they throw last gen consoles out the window "Besides why would you want to play all those 500 old, guaranteed good games, Grandpa? All the cool kids play the 7 or 8 NEW games, that may or may not be good!"

Needless to say, backwards compatibility might as well not exist on current gen consoles it's fucking pathetic. I can guarantee the only reason it came to the XBone is because enough people complained about it that Microsoft could no longer ignore it.

Also I massively agree with you that all of that stuff goes to such massive waste because of the rampant erasure of console history one generation at a time. And I've said a couple of times in this thread that online services are a scam. I already pay my ISP for an internet connection, why the bloody hell am I paying something else to use my internet service that I'm already paying for? Bleck! A scam I tell yah.

And PCs do the whole online thing so effortlessly. Play online without subscriptions, type insults with your keyboard. Then minimise the game and file your tax returns :D
No wait, that's boring. But even so, you get my point. They're far more multi-functional.

Yep yep, and no DLC to customize your profile picture!

Oh no, there's definitely DLC. That's pretty much universal :P

Very rarely do I, it all really depends. Games such as WWE Smackdown: Here Comes The Pain, Forza Horizon 3 (this game is on PC, though is very demanding), and Zelda games all exist only on consoles. I absolutely hate emulation, so I refuse to use an emulator for any of the games. Sometimes it is fun to chill out with a console, though, I still enjoy PC. Not only does PC have more interesting games, but it also has more third party games which means more stupidly broken indie games :3

Yes, sadly exclusives exists. And as much as I've been demonising it in these comments, I'm likely to get a Switch because there are games on it I really want. I'm sadly unable to prevent myself from falling into the trappings I've been criticising.

Exclusives I have learned not to complain about, I laugh my ass off when console players try to mess with PC players about exclusives. I am usually like "Hey, at least I dont have to buy 15 consoles just to play older games!"

Not to mention most of the console exclusive games do not intrigue me anyways.

the only console i use is my 3ds all other games are on the pc since i can play what i want and can still play very old games that were on dos os to now on it with no problems. I have never owned a ps 3 or 4 and the 360 or one since i not interested and you have to pay to use there services. I have always like to use the mouse and keyboard and do use a 360 controller for some games and racing ones.

I have a pc and consoles and i used to lov playing pc games fallout 1'2'3 elder scrools up to oblivion but then i encountered somethin that ruined my taste for pc games forever "steam" yuck it made even sigle player games require internet which i dont have excrpt for my phone (cause quite honestly i dont have the 120 a month required to get satalight ((the only internet avalble where i live)) so yha steam has many good points i guess for people with cheep internet but and pardon my language it fucked me and ruined pc gameing forever (wow lol i came off as old as heck lol im like a cranky old man in a rocker on the front porch lol XD)

UUuh, except you don't need internet to play games on Steam. At least not after you've downloaded them, at which point you can play offline all you please.

Yha but the fact remains i cant just put in the disc and play i have to connect to the internet at least once which isnt possible thus cant play lol not tryin to be rude or snappy just saying now adays unless its a console game no internet =no play if u cant get on the internet with your pc lol

Well that's not Steam's fault, that's just how PC game distribution has gone as a whole. I'm gonna assume you're American if you have such atrocious internet that you can't even use Steam x3 (Though, correct me if I'm wrong on that one)

Lol your right im american and i have NO internet except my little phome here lol and i know like i said that and steam is why i dont play pc anymore except for the older games that i can just put the disc in and play lol sure the graphics arnt the best but if i want better graphics thats why i got a console but i will say i miss mods lol

lololololol :P

Lol XD may need a little more to respond to then lolololol :p XD

I was pointing out that you say lol a lot. I had nothing else to add x3

Ahhh i see lol yha i do say lol a lot when im in a good mood lol XD also LOL XD

Well for me I just kinda prefer playing on a console. And atm I can't afford getting a gaming PC and I prefer using a controller than a keyboard to play even though most PC games to let you use controllers. But most of all the PC Elitism turns me off from wanting to try it.

And I know PC is the superior platform but I really don't care I just want to play a game and have fun with something I'm comfortable and familiar with.

"But most of all the PC Elitism"
Is actually very few and far between, like any community there's always the outspoken douches but they're a loud minority.
Most of the time if you see the whole "PC Gaming Master Race" thing, it's a joke. Only the aforementioned douche-bags say it straight faced and seriously.

Still I can understand preferring familiarity, it can be a pain going through the adjustment period. In my experience though, once you adjust you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner.

Sure but Id rather stick with consoles for now. Until I make more money from a better paying job and have my own place to when I can actually play a PC.