I think you should stay the way you like , many peoples like many different kind of other peoples , in my opinion the best is simply to be yourself , that way the peoples who would be interested in you woulnd't be intersted by juste an imahe but the real you , well that's what i think at least

True though even the ones interested in me at a time, didn't want me after a while xD so...I dono.

Honestly for me, having some weight (not too much) is good for you. But i need to keep active cause while there are guys who love really chubby guys, the more fat you have, the bigger risk you have at developing heath problems. So for me, i'm not doing exercise as a look thing, i'm doing it for my health.

Yeah true. It's just a weird thing for me. When I wasn't confident about my looks I got praise for them by a lot. D: I'm starting to feel that having some weight is nice to most.

Healthy bodies look the best and are more attractive to the vast majority of people. So not overweight.

But bara bara -squeaks- x3

Honestly I have dated guys who were both very very skinny, and guys, who have been bigger, even very muscular guys, I found them all attractive lol I guess my taste in men is all over the place

I can say the bigger guys were much more comfortable to cuddle up to at night than the skinny boney ones

But I myself am not a small woman either so I guess I have never been highly picky about the way someone looks, it has always been more about personality and sense of humor to me

Not to mention I do love attractive eyes on a man

does that make me weird?

Not at all, everyone has their tastes. Eyes are more common than you think, including in females as I've noticed (had girls come up to me and tell me they loved my eyes xD too bad Im gay xD)

The reason for all of this is...I'm confident I am handsome. Finally find the beauty in myself, because when I used to look at myself, all I saw was errors within beauty. Destroyed my body that way, went and took medication for acne I rarely got, dried my skin and gave me stretch marks because of my appetite. So I'm starting to feel that...whatever you become, you become. I love health and stuff, I do take care of myself, but ... I dont know, I think confidence comes from within.

I think everyone, even the most confident people you will ever see, still pick themselves apart when they are by themselves, it's normal unfortunately, you do just have to understand that regardless of the flaws, which everyone has, you have so many more great things about you. No one is perfect, just gotta learn to look at yourself in a more positive light

I am very bad with this too lol

Honestly, when I was in school and interested in woman, I usually found that the most attractive to me. Were the ones that acted the kindest and were treated like rubbish. Because I didn't want that to happen but how can a man back in the 90s and early 2000s protect a girl from other girls. -shrugs- so I hung out with her and made her avoid those (excuse my language) bitches.

Also, I love your art btw. WHY ARE GIRLS ALWAYS BETTER AT ART THAN MEN! D:

Back in highschool i always hung out with the people that were picked on lol cause I was picked on too, I found they were generally nicer, I didn't wanna be part of the bitchy groups

And thank you ^^
haha a lot of my favorite artists are men though!
In fact most of them are D:

Hehe well your art is lovely and inspiring so I'll watch you :3 I watch inspiring people.

Aww Thank you so much for the watch
I love you art too
Obviously since I have been watching you forever lol

I agree completely with this, I have always been weird confident in social situations, where im not afraid to show how weird I am and im usually pretty approachable. However I tend to doubt myself alot and cant be proud of anything in myself. I feel like id be braging if I show my pride in a skill or something about myself however I love it when other are proud of themselves.

I mean, I'm married to two large chubby guys, dating a chubby girl, and dating a skinny guy. I'm a chubby girl myself and most guys dont give me the time of day, lol.

O: The rare polygamy person! But you are happy you are and how your mates are right? :)

Not Polygamy. Polyamory, but it's easy to confuse them. This may help show the differences:
http://www.yourtango.com/experts/mr.....ce-between-two
http://lovingwithoutboundaries.com/.....clear-this-up/

I'm working on loving myself, but everyone seems pretty fine with themselves. I'm fine with them and it's the person on the inside that matters.

-squeaks-!

*smooches the adorable otter* <3

But you, my dear, are amazing. Don't let anyone tell you different.

So for me there's no such thing as an ideal body. The only thing that's important to me is healthy-looking. I fell in love with my mates wits, not his looks (although I think he's pretty hot too x3 )
Having that said, I changed my own body a lot. From being extremely obese with 148 kilos at 186cm to 78 at 188 (I've grown since my back is now less heavily burdened)
But I didn't do it to be more attractive. I did it for my health. And I think that other people now think I'm more attractive not only for my physique but for looking healthy and feeling good as well.

In conclusion: Wits, being healthy and having self-esteem are aspects that are important to me

<3 best dragon hehe :) but Im glad you managed to help yourself be healthy!

Be who you want to be. let people love you for who you are. not the way you look. i look at all these super skinny people today and think that is not healthy/natural... but silly people think oh thats fine because thats hot!.... IS THAT THE MESSAGE WE SHOULD BE SENDING?! I myself Like people for how they are on the inside... not out... but sadly not everyone is so open minded.

I don't care anymore myself, I just want to be healthy, live long, meet lots of people and find someone to share it with :D

Could anyone ask for more?

Apparently those who dated me, yes. :3

Eh, those must just be the kinds of people who are never happy then. No offence.

Actually it's because our personality's mostly clashed. I learned to look past little things that I don't like about the people I date and make compromises, because there wont be a perfect PERFECT mate in the world. Everyone is unique in their own way, if you can see the beauty of them and out way the ugly...then you can only be happy.

So true... Do you ever think that in the limitless of space there is the perfect one though? whoops im getting a bit deep and off topic here... but anyway, im sure you'll find that perfect someone one day... and they will love you for who you are.

For me its weird. I feel that no one should be afraid to change, I think its great to want to improve yourself in any way (whether it be losing weight or bulking up on muscle) but you shouldnt really force yourself into that because its a social norm or whats "beautiful" at that moment in society. You should do it for yourself or for example do it for your significant other. Sorry if im all confusing, its late lol. Basically, dont change because society demands it, only change if you want it for yourself or want it yourself.

That is so sweet. And yeah same...but none that loved me ever cared about what i looked like in the end, I think most people love confidence more than looks.

I agree, confidence will easily have a bigger impact. I think thats partially due to the fact that theyl be more socialable over worrying about their body. Or if theur body image comes up theyll either joke about it or just be confident in their own body. Like me im around 6, 2 and weigh 220~ give or take and im very bottom heavy because i biked everyday for years and its funny cus i have zero arm strength.

Very nice :3 a biker in leathers is very sexy too -squeaks!- And confidence is the greatest self victory you could have.

Biking is the best way to get both a nice butt and thicc thighs :P

To me, body means very little when it comes to true affections. Though sure, there are guys and girls I'll be attracted to because of how they look but it doesn't define who they are.

Personality and the heart of said person is what will win me over. My current girlfriend, by Man's definition of beautiful, is the opposite but I love her for her personality, cute laugh, and pervyness. XD

Anyway, seriously speaking, one shouldn't hold such high regard in appearance alone. If you love the body but not the heart then it's not really love but lust and those relationships tend to be toxic.

Ofcourse not, there is a lot that defines beauty. I just find that there are some preferences in some scenarios. I dont know... I think I'm weird.

Myself, I tend to favour "healthy" looking guys/girls.

I can be into chubs, bara, muscles, normal or skinny guys. It doesn't seem to matter that much to me as long as they look and seem healthy.


I have no real opinion about size difference compared to myself (1m 80cm). Imagine having a partner of lets say, someone 20cm taller or shoter then you. That can be fun in many ways. The tall guy beeing the more sub could be fun. Doesn't always have to be tall = dom within the relationship. But the taller one beeing the more dom is also fun ofcourse. The best is to be a switch, with another switch partner


But lets see if i can come up with something that I really dislik, in terms of body... Well... ofcourse too much fat or too skinny = Unhealthy, thus i don't really like that. ... errr... anything else? Well Ican't come up with anything right now.

In the end, personality matter much more to me. (Oh, how cliché) but like everyone alive ever, I do have things that might turn me on more then others.

-squeak squeaks- x3 I am 20cm taller than you haha

*Pet pets n' Hug hugs*

Haha ^_^ Funny

I don't really care too much about body image so long as they bathe. People come in all sorts of shapes and sizes and choosing people based on that sort of criteria is a bit... shallow to me, so I do what I want to do for myself and not others. Be who you want to be, that's what's important, don't be what you think you should be! I've had boyfriends all over the spectrum. xD For me it's more in how they act, conduct themselves, and their personality.

Most "healthy and fit" (being muscular does NOT mean you are healthy, lol. It's what you can't see that decides if you're healthy) guys in my area tend to be dickheads, especially the gym-goers, so I tend to aim away from that crowd when I'm dating. I prefer the more genuine types over the superficial.

Hehe most furries don't care for body, I think we learn to love those who care for us more. Most of us. Because as a community that acts like a sanctuary, we all have a history of some sort :) well...I think everyone has a bad history in some way. But health yes, getting back to the point, is a preferable trait. I really wish people would take better care of themselves sometimes...but to each their own. If I want a relationship, however, I'd probably want one that last a couple of decades, and staying healthy is key.

i honestly prefer those with a nice athletic build, as well as a bit on the taller side, i like skinny guys but you can't really cuddle or anything on that, and i've never really been into heavier set guys, i don't know why thats my preference, it just is.

but i say keep the body type you like, and if you want, work towards it, never let anyone push you to change

I think it comes with age. In my earlier life, my teenage to young adult life. I did find preference to a more harming and muscular look. But I found a little later that it doesn't really matter. As long as someone has confidence, it really stands out. I think it's a common trait, but the few who are happy with who they are usually stand out among those who feel they aren't good enough. (It sounds bad but it's supposed to be motivational, if you cry because someone says you look like a cow, then (this is gonna sound bad) you probably feel it is true. But if you can take what they say and tell them "Whatever you say -wink-, I know so many that would love my handles , because I know what true beauty is. It is what you make out of it, what you feel and how you treat others.". If you tell them that...oooooooh boy, they would probably laugh, but they would remember it and maybe someday change to fit that ideal too :).

all i have to say is...i like that heh

Honestly, I think you should be whatever (healthy) body type makes you the happiest.
You want to be slim? Go ahead!
Want to be the next world famous bodybuilder? Why not?
Want to be, as you said, bara like? Be my guest!
It's really up to you.

I'm also the example not to follow. I'm probably the moat self conscious person, in regard to their body, that I know. For example, I'm 5 ft 10.5 in. Average height in the USA. I'm honestly very self conscious about it because a friend who has short parents is now taller than I am, and I come from a tall family. So I'm actually shorter than most of my family members. What's worse is that information on how people change after junior year of high school is really inconsistent, so I have no idea if I'll grow any more or not.

Another thing I did very wrong was why I decided to change how I look. I used to weigh 175 lbs. I now weigh 145 and am trying to get to be more muscular. I am much happier with how I look, but that's partially because of how I think I should look. I never accepted me for being me, and that still kinda, shall we say, jabs at me. I'm quick to point out flaws in myself or things I wish to change but rarely do I try to find much positivity in it. Just don't do that.

Sorry, that kinda turned into a rant

Can I tell a story? If not just skip the next paragraph :P but I'm sure you'd like it.

I had a friend who had dwarf syndrome. Actually I knew a lot of people who were physically different, disabled or mentally challenged. Why? I went to a school for those with Cerebral Palsy. Yes, I was...as they used to say it in a way mentally retarded. (I think it is silly America uses that term as something negative now, but anyway).
If you want to learn about what I had, look up something called "Petit Mal". It caused me to need privatized schooling so I could be educated efficiently through my disorder.
Anyway back to the story, I had a friend who is a dwarf, when he first arrived at this school people called him cool because they never saw one in real life. It is such a rare disorder. But soon after that, nobody became his friend, because nobody wanted someone who was a "short shit", "fat" and "runs like a stumbling baby". Now this guy didn't care what people said about him, he knew who he was and didn't hold back anything. He EXUDE confidence, spoke openly, and joined in games with those he didn't relate to. But it was because his physic never let him get in the way of being great. You know he became one of our best batsman in our Cricket team at school. Even though he ran funny, he could RUN. Even though he was short, he could protect a wicket with ease. He threw balls better than I could ever though it...and had SO many friends because of this. People then never saw him as a dwarf, but as a very confident, achieving guy. This also made him very cocky at some point, but that doesn't matter. ;3 he is married to a beautiful woman now, just fyi, a taller girl.

I was...at some point...the tallest kid in school. I'm 6' 6" and I really wish I was smaller than this. Like my dwarf friend, I stood out but I never made an impact. So I was bullied and treated like rubbish with those with confidence and the will to achieve became better than me. This is why I'm an artist, because I wanted to prove to them and myself that I can be better than who I was, so maybe one day I could get some praise. After I did I ended up realizing there were people that supported me all along, I just ignored him because I didn't have enough confidence in myself to believe in what they said about me, the good.

I hope this would be inspiring for you, I really tried to summarize the story out a bit :)

That was a really lovely story. Thank you for sharing it.

Yikes that sucks. To say the least. I honestly have nothing intelligent to say about your experience, sorry ^^;

So, you had mentioned how you might want to, well, change a bit. Or at least you body, could you tell me a bit more about that? Only if you want to though.

No I'm more accepting of my body now. Tall, chubby but not unhealthy.

It's not about height for me. I'm 5'6'', so most dudes are going to be taller than me. Hell, I wouldn't mind dating someone shorter than me, if I could find a dude shorter than 5'6''. lol.
As for body image, I'm dating an overweight guy, and it's the best. I love a chubby body, especially if they are hairy. The hairier the better, I always say!
I'll be honest, Nanukk. I've seen your pics when you were chubbier, and I thought you were cuter then. You're still cute, don't worry, but my preference will always be for chub. Having said that, it's your body, and it's whatever type you want to be. If you want to gain weight, do it! if you you want to stay skinny, then i'll support you. Do whatever you feel is right for you, bud.

But Im not skinny :3 But Im comfortable with my body right now.

I'd say it's up to you as long as you are not grossly overweight and not an anorexic look alike. I'm 6'2" and still growing and I swim and bike for exercise. I don't necessarily always stay in shape but I'm never consurned that I'm getting to overweight, I either am in shape and have a six pack, or I'm not in shape and I don't have a six pack. The only thing I ever promised my self about my body is that I would never look like my father (6'4"/ 150 pounds overweight/ has facial hair but shaves his head/ has a disgusting tank top of hair).