Why is it so complicated to get stolen art taken off F-list?
8 years ago
Give me fuel! Give me fire! Give that which I desire! I'm not bitching as much as I am venting in this journal.
Now, yes I understand there is procedures when it comes to taking art down from accounts that have been flagged for using another's owned art, but what I don't understand is why is it like...not pulling teeth, but more like swatting an annoying fly or mosquito.
Let me put some backstory to it.
I get on F-list today, and have a friend tell me they have found someone using a piece of mine. So, I decide to do it the way I've been told recently to do it and submit a ticket. Now, know that up until now I've been contacting people using my art directly instead of going through staff of the site to do it because I find it a bit more polite, plus I don't like to stooge people out. But a staffer of the site told me "Well that is in fact violating the terms and conditions to art take downs and should not be handled in such a way. So if you want it taken down contact F-list staff with a ticket." Or something along those lines.
I give them the name of the account, the piece in question, and even post the link to the original piece on MY account here on FA. And if any of you have taken a second to look at my account description it obviously has on there the link to my F-list account, which was originally put there to verify my F-list account for my art.
I get a ticket back saying something a long the lines of, and I'm paraphrasing when I say "We need the original posted by the artist so this link is no good for verification on this piece." As well as they link the wiki of guidelines they go by to take art down.
I go to the link, look over the guidelines, and in the guidelines it even says, quote "Art takedown requests must be filed by the owner or artist of the work in question." And seeing as I can't draw for shit, that kind of narrows down which one I am. I think the funniest thing in the wiki is it says under "Proof of identity" is to have a verified profile.
Well, I would if they wouldn't have scrapped the whole verification gimmick. That of which I'm still pissed about. I've even had a short spat to a staff member about that, me saying it helped in sorted the reals from the fakes and them saying it was more of a headache then not.
Also, if you want to read the wiki I'll link it here. --> https://wiki.f-list.net/Art_Takedown_Requests
Anyway! To end it and finally get it said and over I had to post the one the artist had put on their FA account, which could be a problem in some instances, seeing as not all artists post the things they do so it could be hard for one to get a stolen piece taken down.
Now I'll say I don;t disagree with the steps they take in making sure who's in the right, but come on, it shouldn't have to be that complicated. Shit like that makes me want to just up and quite the site, plus also goes to show why I was taking care of people using my art one on one instead of bringing in a third party, just a headache.
Almost like how buying a gun is. You go through a gun shop/store, you gotta fill out paper work, background checks and so on and so forth. But buying from one person to another? Just an exchange of money is all you need. No fuss, no muss.
tldr: It shouldn't be so hard to get art you own taken off someone else's account.
Now, yes I understand there is procedures when it comes to taking art down from accounts that have been flagged for using another's owned art, but what I don't understand is why is it like...not pulling teeth, but more like swatting an annoying fly or mosquito.
Let me put some backstory to it.
I get on F-list today, and have a friend tell me they have found someone using a piece of mine. So, I decide to do it the way I've been told recently to do it and submit a ticket. Now, know that up until now I've been contacting people using my art directly instead of going through staff of the site to do it because I find it a bit more polite, plus I don't like to stooge people out. But a staffer of the site told me "Well that is in fact violating the terms and conditions to art take downs and should not be handled in such a way. So if you want it taken down contact F-list staff with a ticket." Or something along those lines.
I give them the name of the account, the piece in question, and even post the link to the original piece on MY account here on FA. And if any of you have taken a second to look at my account description it obviously has on there the link to my F-list account, which was originally put there to verify my F-list account for my art.
I get a ticket back saying something a long the lines of, and I'm paraphrasing when I say "We need the original posted by the artist so this link is no good for verification on this piece." As well as they link the wiki of guidelines they go by to take art down.
I go to the link, look over the guidelines, and in the guidelines it even says, quote "Art takedown requests must be filed by the owner or artist of the work in question." And seeing as I can't draw for shit, that kind of narrows down which one I am. I think the funniest thing in the wiki is it says under "Proof of identity" is to have a verified profile.
Well, I would if they wouldn't have scrapped the whole verification gimmick. That of which I'm still pissed about. I've even had a short spat to a staff member about that, me saying it helped in sorted the reals from the fakes and them saying it was more of a headache then not.
Also, if you want to read the wiki I'll link it here. --> https://wiki.f-list.net/Art_Takedown_Requests
Anyway! To end it and finally get it said and over I had to post the one the artist had put on their FA account, which could be a problem in some instances, seeing as not all artists post the things they do so it could be hard for one to get a stolen piece taken down.
Now I'll say I don;t disagree with the steps they take in making sure who's in the right, but come on, it shouldn't have to be that complicated. Shit like that makes me want to just up and quite the site, plus also goes to show why I was taking care of people using my art one on one instead of bringing in a third party, just a headache.
Almost like how buying a gun is. You go through a gun shop/store, you gotta fill out paper work, background checks and so on and so forth. But buying from one person to another? Just an exchange of money is all you need. No fuss, no muss.
tldr: It shouldn't be so hard to get art you own taken off someone else's account.
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