why do some artists never do what I tell them to do?
8 years ago
Honestly if I say "you have to/should crop that part out" for example in a comic: an expression of a character or the logo of something they developed... then you f***ing have to do it! There is no discussion! And if it means to redraw it in bigger size then you have to do it!
This is no work at all to do such a thing and upload it, it is a task of 5 to 10 minutes - and a real artist is NEVER a capitalist. Because a real artist does a normal standard work and only takes money for real big commissions.
Which is why those "YCH" or "Adopts" is the most stupid crap ever. In real capitalism NOBODY gives you money for things they have not asked you to do. In fact you get laughed at.
Same goes for all those who think"fame" is connected with "clicks and likes". I tell you what: In school we also hated those pupils who bought themselves friends.
Why are people now loving those? It is illogical and shows a lack of knowledge and intelligence.
Something you can buy with money is NEVER a success. Success is that what you can NOT buy with money.
Btw. It also shows that normal people are already so much sickened by this system, thinking "fame" comes BEFORE the clicks and likes and not BECAUSE of it....
The whole thing is based on lies and if people do not react to this then they will come crying once that card house is completely fallen apart.
In fact it is already fallen apart the ones who are responsible just try to hide it by showing parts which still stand up.
This is no work at all to do such a thing and upload it, it is a task of 5 to 10 minutes - and a real artist is NEVER a capitalist. Because a real artist does a normal standard work and only takes money for real big commissions.
Which is why those "YCH" or "Adopts" is the most stupid crap ever. In real capitalism NOBODY gives you money for things they have not asked you to do. In fact you get laughed at.
Same goes for all those who think"fame" is connected with "clicks and likes". I tell you what: In school we also hated those pupils who bought themselves friends.
Why are people now loving those? It is illogical and shows a lack of knowledge and intelligence.
Something you can buy with money is NEVER a success. Success is that what you can NOT buy with money.
Btw. It also shows that normal people are already so much sickened by this system, thinking "fame" comes BEFORE the clicks and likes and not BECAUSE of it....
The whole thing is based on lies and if people do not react to this then they will come crying once that card house is completely fallen apart.
In fact it is already fallen apart the ones who are responsible just try to hide it by showing parts which still stand up.
I don't understand why you think that your word is law, because it isn't. Just because you think that somebody should do something, doesn't mean that they have to. You're stuck in times that make no sense, you say this but people go to art galleries all the time and buy whatever the hell they like the look of, whether or not it's what they asked for. In fact, you go to the shop looking for something and you find a cute plush toy or little trinket you like the look of, you haven't asked that creator to make this specific thing but you like it so you buy it.
This is how capitalism work. You offer your wares, and people come over and pay you money for it.
Besides, you need to spend money to make money, I have no idea what you're even trying to say with "Something you can buy with money is NEVER a success." You can buy pretty much anything?? I can go out right now and buy an iPhone, if I were to make my own phone that's possibly better than the iPhone that would be a huge success.
There are no fallen ones in today's society, there are simply people who make money and people who complain about other people making money.
Btw. I am in more than 78% of the cases correct. Normal people do not even manage to be correct 50% of the time...
But I do not judge myself here, it is others that say so.
Why else would I sit here and write on a concept for an economic system for an independent Catalunya?
go to my webpage and inform yourself:
http://www.gldj-htv.tk
When I was your age I was similiar, too bad people always have to learn the hard way that they are just small creatures ^^
A seller offers a service (albeit one I don't like), and consumers buy it.
No, you don't know how to make someone more successful and liked, fame is rather random. You sound like someone who just wants everyone to do what you want only.
Only those people who can not accept that someone is more intelligence, knows more than them, is able to do more than them, has more experience than them even with younger age etc. only these people will then come up with insults which just underline that they are clearly not on the same height.
If I use an insult it is usually an insult that is profoundly proven - and the proof of their... lower behaviour is that they react with fury back instead of finding a solution or not react in a bad way towards it at all.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/251.....#cid:123831485
trotzdem nur eine kleinigkeit: du beschwerst dich in deinem Journal das die Leute nicht auf dich hören wenn du ihnen etwas sagst. mehrere leute haben dir mitlerweile gesagt das der grund dafür deine arrogant und respetklos wirkende art ist und du dich nicht wirklich darüber wundern solltest. deine reaktion: "das kann gar nicht sein!" und wenn das deine tatsächliche meinung und auffassung ist, dann ist das auch vollkommen okay. da du allerdings mit deiner bisherigen art weder in der vergangenheit noch jetzt viel erfolg zu haben scheinst (sonst hättest du das Journal nicht geschrieben), wäre es vielleicht doch einmal eine überlegung wert ob nicht vielleicht doch etwas dran sein könnte und ein respektvollerer und bescheidener umgang anderen gegenüber nicht vielleicht doch dazu führen könnte das diese bereitwilliger sind dir zuzuhören. zu verlieren hast du schließlich nichts, oder?
in diesem sinne noch ein schönes leben und adé
sponge it off on that twelve dollar fursuit
You do not know me well enough and you do not know my successes because you are just someone from outside having a narrow view of the world.
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get that into your walnut brain jfc
"But yea continue living in your own pink-painted world. You'll sooner or later land on the hard bottom of reality"
Why are you opposed to 'capitalism'?
The views of a human being are always bound to their personal experience. And my experience connected with that of many many others here in Eastern Germany are not that good. In general we get paid very badly for hard work - but that is not just it, we are also treated like crap without any sight of it getting better in a nearer future. In fact right now you can only 'win' a place if you swim with the masses and switch off your brain.
You can not expect that from a highly intelligent and very well-educated person like me.
I had a feeling you were a socialist. Didn't want to automatically assume but the signs were all there.
So whats happened?
"Honestly if I say "you have to/should crop that part out" for example in a comic: an expression of a character or the logo of something they developed... then you f***ing have to do it!"
Did you ask an artist you had paid to do something and they didn't? Or did you go to them demanding something without paying them? Am curious.
People are often liking a comic just because of one scene - but instead of cropping out the scene they just ignore what the people say and why they fave things. This can even make you loose potential customers but most likely fans who like the art stuff by their own will and not because it was forced onto them (like we see with those who use Google Adwords or Facebook adverts to bring their own often real crap in front with lots of money they do not even have themselves but was given to them by big companies.)
And we find the problem. We aren't your soldiers and you are no leader of ours.
I think you are missing the point. You are basically saying 'they HAVE to', rather than you offering suggestions.
You are trying to dictate to people what they can and can not do.
You are prancing around as if you know what is best for everyone and you want them to live by YOUR WAY.
My intelligence, knowledge and wisdom is way above those of 97% of the people.
You arent the one who knows best, know what's 100% right or correct.
There are many ways to go on doing something. Just cause something works for you or you like it, doesnt mean others have to do the same. Simple as that.
If you still think "I know best, everyone must follow my orders cause I am the smartest and best person" then you sir, are an blockheaded idiot who cant get their head out of their ass and see reality.
Now, if you calmly reply with kind words to discuss, I'll reply back in kind. If you throw angry words or insults, then you're proving my point from above.
I'll admit, I did throw some mean words and insults, I stand to that, but sometimes one have to in order to make people react and see past 5 inches of their own face.
Human beings have a problem accpeting they are dumb.
Oh, intelligent one~
Not only did you perfectly describe yourself here, you also made a spelling error. Now now, don't worry... I'm sure you were just so smart that you simply overlooked it. After all... Humans have a problem accepting that they can be dumb.
If you still think you are the best and cant lower yourself to be more of an average person, then I suggest you go talk to President Trump. I'm sure he'd love your point of view and agree to it wholeheartedly, no doubt. You seem to share a similare mindset and intelect after all.
Oh, comic gold right here.
Face it, you are just a loud mouth who gets upset that no one is taking you seriously and no one is flocking to you to listen to your "advice".
Further more, I am going to bet that you were told off by several artists after you went to demanding that they do thing YOUR way. And aside from one example, which I don't even call it such because I haven't seem them upload the crop you told them to do, I'm going to say... your advice sucks.
I've been ignoring your over-inflated ego while I attempt see why you were having a rant about not getting your way. Little more than a small child crying that they didn't get what they want.
So let's drop it here. You'll do that, right?
Of course you will... Anything for the guy who looks like your beloved cheetah who you are now divided from forever, right?
Oh right you don't have the guts because you are just a bloody dumb little bitch ^^
All Swedes are dumb anyway - history shows that we Finns in the end are superior!
As a commission artist, I know that happens sometimes.
your many thousand is more like 150.
Jamendo has closed my account because of idiotic behaviour from their side. The listeners there were enormous and to me this is a big hindernis of course because Jamendo is the only real non-commercial page for us free (music) artists.
Oh wait what do we have here? https://www.shazam.com/de/artist/43.....552/pianolisko
at least on SHazam you can not "buy" yourself followers....
You can only get "1000"s of views and likes if you 'promote' it via Google Adwords. That costs a lot of money which I am not willing to spend.
Others can do it because big companies are behind them.
Stop being so dumb! -_-
Everything that needs to buy themselves clicks/likes/follower IS crap. And all those who have so many million clicks/likes/followers are commerce. Means they are crap because they took money to force their crap onto people
"Oh here look!"
What I want with my art is that people should decide themselves if they like it or not and I give a fuck about "success" in terms of clicks/likes/followers.
I could say I have been with 5 Songs in the Top10 Dance charts on Track4 twice last year but I give a fuck about it.
You should too - just because FA helps us furries show our art to OUR minority, this can not be compared to the whole internet. The whole internet works different. mainly by google algorithms, bought up stuff and all that.
Nevertheless. Type in "Tarvo" into google, you'll see I am on the front page just with my first name. If this isn't a "success" to you, then you are really low and narrow-minded in thinking.
Also, artists work just as hard as everyone else. We dedicate years to what we do, and each piece of art takes hours of work. It's no different than going to a ~~**Normal Job**~~ and expecting a fucking living wage.
I don't expect people to pay for my personal art, not unless they genuinely are interested in, and want to support a project. (Which, by the way, is NOT blocked by a paywall.) Otherwise, I sell commissions, custom made things tailored to a person's specific request.
and yes my artwork also takes hours and days, sometimes months. Yet my art is for everyone and I think that should be the case for ALL kinds of art. Free available for everyone when it comes to art you do on your own.
Commissions can be paid for that is correct, but not stuff you do on your own will which nobody asked you to do.
What the fuck is this
journal??
Just right now I am drawing/writing keys/notes for the classical work for 100 years independence of Finland.
And appearently I am the only furry to have such a classical knowledge and do such extreme classical work, all others are clearly wussies.
>implying you're not living on earth
not to mention your complaints about what artists do when given vague instructions and no direction is the opinion of one single little person out of the 7 billion on the planet. And an opinion that has less value as you do not art and its clear you do not value art or artits
My election-area is not too big so the chances are even there I will go into the federal government.
Let's hope my friends from the military will blow that brat behaviour out of your brain soon so that you learn where the direction is!
you can not even read what I write ô.o
you must learn that not everything life is written down
no.
You're actually an idiot. rofl.
Cheers.
Oh right, you can not think...
Do you use resources? Research papers? Gut feelings? What kind of experance do you have in the field of marketing, how about the field of customer service? Have you ever ran a business?
I do believe the real question I'm hinting at is what physical evidence do you have for anyone to take your word over everyone else's?
The ressources I have are either my own knowledge or what other people tell me from their experience. So of course this is time consuming but if you wanna know how people are like and find a red line and how things work you must use that time.
Once you learnt to filter the info you want it does not take too much time anymore. But that is knowledge, experience and logic.
90% of human beings do not even have one of this...
So what you are suggesting is that artist should take even more of their limited resources and time, then spend it on things that they will not only never make money on, but also never be able to replace the supplies they've spent on X object. From a business standpoint....That suggestion is absurd, then on top of that, that 90% stastic, you simply pulled out of your rear, and I will forever assume you pulled it out of your rear until your present evidence to the contrary.
Though, you can simply take what I say with a grain of salt as well, I only have a computer information system degree, which is no where near as fancy as your's. (Though I did take a couple of buisness courses, and Art course, as well as a management course to fill my Degree requirements. I still even have my Business 101 book.)
No but seriously, your ego is cranked to 11, tone it down to a 4, you'll look less like a fool.
"Honestly if I say "you have to/should crop that part out" for example in a comic: an expression of a character or the logo of something they developed... then you f***ing have to do it! There is no discussion! And if it means to redraw it in bigger size then you have to do it!"
Unless you paid for it, no one has to do anything for you
"Which is why those "YCH" or "Adopts" is the most stupid crap ever. In real capitalism NOBODY gives you money for things they have not asked you to do. In fact you get laughed at."
If adopts and YCH auctions are still around, then they obviously work.