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The Decline of the 18+ MLP Fandom
8 years ago
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Right, so it’s not exactly a surprise that the fandom kinda shat the bed a while ago, and it hasn’t really done anything about that...
We could start with how it’s very selectively discriminatory. Like in how you are allowed to be utterly incompetent at female genital anatomy, but you are NOT allowed to be that worthless when it comes to male genital anatomy.
Yet people in this fandom hammer on about how every artist is allowed to “have their own style+preference” and whatnot. And how “inclusive” we are. Even going so far as to claim that being inept is an “artistic style”. Yet, as said: This “choice” is EXCLUSIVE to female genitalia. If you try to be a lazy fuck with male genitalia, then ho boy you are screwed.
As is evident by that if you try to half-ass a penis, or even try to draw a human penis on a pony: Then you more or less get lynched. With people shrieking at you to “do it right”. Whereas if you do the exact same with a vulva. There are 0 fucks. And fanboys will throw themselves in front of a combine harvester, dick first, to defend an artists right to be as useless as they’d like when it comes to pussy.
Unless ofc: You do the unthinkable and break the invisible porn rules, and do something like: A hyper pussy or a horsecunt on a human. (or a shota penis) When it’s agreed those are dick exclusive things. Then shit will hit the fan over that you dared to break etiquette.
Up next to that; We have the MLP folios. And well... I don’t really have to say that much else. It’s confirmed and proven that 100 % of ALL the major ones that feature females are fraudulent and/or are falsely advertised.
Yet, somehow, the fandom just shrugged and were okay with this. Setting the bar of entry so low, that even Peter Molyneux or Hello Games would be able to stroll in, promise literally anything, and MLP fans would swarm to pre-order whatever was just pitched without hesitation.
As prior stated: It’s a cycle of false advertisement and fraud. A folio is announced, people get hyped and purchase it. It comes out, turns out it was a scam. People express displeasure in the product, saying it was pretty much shit, or how “it’s not as bad as the last one at least..” or “their normal stuff is waaay better...”, Then they turn around and give it 10/10 and says they can’t wait for the next one. Atop that, most folios have fake e-mail addresses attached. And nearly all that doesn’t, refuse to give refunds.
Again: How the flying fuck MLP fans decided that this was an acceptable standard, I’ll never know. While it is well known I am terrible at analogies and comparisons in a pretty 50/40/10 split of terrible, “eh”, and brilliant. I literally can’t think of shit to even try to and make something with.
Same kinda goes with the episode jokes. If it’s not about a dick, then chances are that it will be completely ignored. Heck, we got blatantly obvious ones that haven’t gotten anything in 7+ years.
But if it’s about a dick... then we generally have at least 5 pictures/captions within a day of release.
And lastly, it’s just the sorry state of how new characters to the show are treated. Or heck, even old characters to that degree. While there are some content that goes out of it’s way to be somewhat show accurate in terms of personality and whatnot. The vast majority of it goes out of it’s way to be as inaccurate as possible. Or rather: Conform to porn norms.
Like that: ONLY males are allowed to have needs and self-regard. And that you need a dick to be dominant. Like, to kinda take the figurehead of the show: There’s 0 comics/animations starring Rainbow Dash being remotely dominant, with even the slightest selfish interest. There are several where she’s genderswapped into a dude, and suddenly is allowed to want to get off, and goes from the allowed “only wants to suck dicks” to “wanting to stick his dick into anything that moves”. But the rest of all content is more or less just her obediently wanting to pleasure guys.
And that applies to all characters. If a new, male villain is introduced. We get a buttload of content about them raping the mane six. Or being overall a selfish slut. But as soon as it’s a female one... we exclusively get art of them submissively sucking dick or being raped. I mean... I would seriously not be surprised if I’m literally behind around 50 % of ALL femdom in this fandom... (just counting canon characters in that)
I mean, I think Chrysalis has something like what? 20 pics total or so? While easily breaking 500+ total in pics, comics and even dedicated animations of her being raped, genderswapped or a “porn dominatrix” trope with no self-regard. Where as if someone tries to post a male villain as submissive to a female, that tends to get people pissed and yell how “OOC” that is. Like proven before: People that yell that “no-body cares” are the ones that care THE MOST. They just want to make sure that you ONLY care about the “correct” way of things.
And don’t get me wrong: I don’t mind having that type of content around.My only issue is when that is the only type of content around. And any other type is discouraged.
But just one more thing atop that: Most people seem to utterly fail to grasp my self-deprecating humour. Granted, I know I am far from smooth. But the fact people even flop when I beat you over the head with it is kinda impressive...
Like when I make fun off “the elite” artists that bitch and moan about how I am superior to them in every regard when it comes to female genital anatomy. I’m not pointing that fact out to do like them and gloat/brag about something. I do it to shine a spotlight on the issue that a novice animator/author, that barely can draw stick figures. Is obliterating roughly 90 %of the “top tier” artists in the furry and MLP fandom, to the point where several off them has ran off crying from humiliation, when it comes to vulvae.
What baffles me further however, is how people get upset at ME for daring to be better than their senpai at something. It’s like if I beat ex: Gordon Ramsey in a cooking contest, because he doesn’t know how to boil an egg, and storm out the kitchen, making me win via walk-over. Like, that’s literally how I’ve beat most of these artists: Them admitting they can’t draw vulvae for shit. OR: Them claiming they can “like, totes draw it! I uh... just can’t show it, cuz reasons.. and stuff... but, believe me! I’m great at it, tremendous!”
It doesn’t help either that these people are so obsessed with hyper dicks and loli vag to the point it’s the only thing that most of them draw. They then turn around and claim that I’M the one that’s obsessed, because I am attracted to more than 0,01 % of female genitalia. It’s like claiming I’m obsessed with “not eating exclusively vanilla ice cream!”, and that doesn’t even address the hypocrisy part of their discrimination or harassment...
We could start with how it’s very selectively discriminatory. Like in how you are allowed to be utterly incompetent at female genital anatomy, but you are NOT allowed to be that worthless when it comes to male genital anatomy.
Yet people in this fandom hammer on about how every artist is allowed to “have their own style+preference” and whatnot. And how “inclusive” we are. Even going so far as to claim that being inept is an “artistic style”. Yet, as said: This “choice” is EXCLUSIVE to female genitalia. If you try to be a lazy fuck with male genitalia, then ho boy you are screwed.
As is evident by that if you try to half-ass a penis, or even try to draw a human penis on a pony: Then you more or less get lynched. With people shrieking at you to “do it right”. Whereas if you do the exact same with a vulva. There are 0 fucks. And fanboys will throw themselves in front of a combine harvester, dick first, to defend an artists right to be as useless as they’d like when it comes to pussy.
Unless ofc: You do the unthinkable and break the invisible porn rules, and do something like: A hyper pussy or a horsecunt on a human. (or a shota penis) When it’s agreed those are dick exclusive things. Then shit will hit the fan over that you dared to break etiquette.
Up next to that; We have the MLP folios. And well... I don’t really have to say that much else. It’s confirmed and proven that 100 % of ALL the major ones that feature females are fraudulent and/or are falsely advertised.
Yet, somehow, the fandom just shrugged and were okay with this. Setting the bar of entry so low, that even Peter Molyneux or Hello Games would be able to stroll in, promise literally anything, and MLP fans would swarm to pre-order whatever was just pitched without hesitation.
As prior stated: It’s a cycle of false advertisement and fraud. A folio is announced, people get hyped and purchase it. It comes out, turns out it was a scam. People express displeasure in the product, saying it was pretty much shit, or how “it’s not as bad as the last one at least..” or “their normal stuff is waaay better...”, Then they turn around and give it 10/10 and says they can’t wait for the next one. Atop that, most folios have fake e-mail addresses attached. And nearly all that doesn’t, refuse to give refunds.
Again: How the flying fuck MLP fans decided that this was an acceptable standard, I’ll never know. While it is well known I am terrible at analogies and comparisons in a pretty 50/40/10 split of terrible, “eh”, and brilliant. I literally can’t think of shit to even try to and make something with.
Same kinda goes with the episode jokes. If it’s not about a dick, then chances are that it will be completely ignored. Heck, we got blatantly obvious ones that haven’t gotten anything in 7+ years.
But if it’s about a dick... then we generally have at least 5 pictures/captions within a day of release.
And lastly, it’s just the sorry state of how new characters to the show are treated. Or heck, even old characters to that degree. While there are some content that goes out of it’s way to be somewhat show accurate in terms of personality and whatnot. The vast majority of it goes out of it’s way to be as inaccurate as possible. Or rather: Conform to porn norms.
Like that: ONLY males are allowed to have needs and self-regard. And that you need a dick to be dominant. Like, to kinda take the figurehead of the show: There’s 0 comics/animations starring Rainbow Dash being remotely dominant, with even the slightest selfish interest. There are several where she’s genderswapped into a dude, and suddenly is allowed to want to get off, and goes from the allowed “only wants to suck dicks” to “wanting to stick his dick into anything that moves”. But the rest of all content is more or less just her obediently wanting to pleasure guys.
And that applies to all characters. If a new, male villain is introduced. We get a buttload of content about them raping the mane six. Or being overall a selfish slut. But as soon as it’s a female one... we exclusively get art of them submissively sucking dick or being raped. I mean... I would seriously not be surprised if I’m literally behind around 50 % of ALL femdom in this fandom... (just counting canon characters in that)
I mean, I think Chrysalis has something like what? 20 pics total or so? While easily breaking 500+ total in pics, comics and even dedicated animations of her being raped, genderswapped or a “porn dominatrix” trope with no self-regard. Where as if someone tries to post a male villain as submissive to a female, that tends to get people pissed and yell how “OOC” that is. Like proven before: People that yell that “no-body cares” are the ones that care THE MOST. They just want to make sure that you ONLY care about the “correct” way of things.
And don’t get me wrong: I don’t mind having that type of content around.My only issue is when that is the only type of content around. And any other type is discouraged.
But just one more thing atop that: Most people seem to utterly fail to grasp my self-deprecating humour. Granted, I know I am far from smooth. But the fact people even flop when I beat you over the head with it is kinda impressive...
Like when I make fun off “the elite” artists that bitch and moan about how I am superior to them in every regard when it comes to female genital anatomy. I’m not pointing that fact out to do like them and gloat/brag about something. I do it to shine a spotlight on the issue that a novice animator/author, that barely can draw stick figures. Is obliterating roughly 90 %of the “top tier” artists in the furry and MLP fandom, to the point where several off them has ran off crying from humiliation, when it comes to vulvae.
What baffles me further however, is how people get upset at ME for daring to be better than their senpai at something. It’s like if I beat ex: Gordon Ramsey in a cooking contest, because he doesn’t know how to boil an egg, and storm out the kitchen, making me win via walk-over. Like, that’s literally how I’ve beat most of these artists: Them admitting they can’t draw vulvae for shit. OR: Them claiming they can “like, totes draw it! I uh... just can’t show it, cuz reasons.. and stuff... but, believe me! I’m great at it, tremendous!”
It doesn’t help either that these people are so obsessed with hyper dicks and loli vag to the point it’s the only thing that most of them draw. They then turn around and claim that I’M the one that’s obsessed, because I am attracted to more than 0,01 % of female genitalia. It’s like claiming I’m obsessed with “not eating exclusively vanilla ice cream!”, and that doesn’t even address the hypocrisy part of their discrimination or harassment...
I really think the main reason the fandom has been waning, besides normal burnout, is that the show is a parody of its former self. It has become, more or less, just the toy commercial fluffy harebrained BS that we saw with other MLP's of the past and has left all semblance of what Faust envisioned behind. It really is just mostly bad at this point.
Also killing its ability to play on Youtube might have really hurt as well. Never a good idea to limit exposure. Oh well.
Anytime I reach outside of my own area as well, people just mention that they think their fav artist is shit/half-assing all their content. And they have no interest in any of the new folios.
Yet, despite that, they say they will purchase it. And when pressed on why, it's just a "I dunno." or "Because I'm supposed to."
It doesn't really change the facts that people have utterly fucked up when it comes to the whole jokes+portrayal area.
But yeah, that seems like a stupid move. That's literally where the fandom began, really.