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The nature of pride (aka be humble)
8 years ago
TRIGGER WARNING = I don't care.
Primarily this is me clearing up a misconception that I run into now and then = a lot of people think you have to be rich to be prideful.
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Of course, when I say it like that it sounds stupid ... which is a common rhetoric tactic to ridicule the self righteous as well as to get your attention.
Here's a blunt example: person gets on a high horse and talks about their evil employers getting away with earning so much money.
this is where you say "but they's evil!" By saying that, it creates an unsaid conditional statement that it's impossible to get rich without doing unethical things. (which obviously isn't the case, that's just stupid) It also creates a secondary resultant clause of "I don't have money, nor do I seek after improving my lot in life by obtaining more wealth, therefore I am not evil."
Simply put = pride is a state of mind that you are better than other people. This happens independent of personal finances, and if anything pride will severely hinder your ability to become financially successful.
Case Point: what is being rich?
- Here's the most poignant example I can think of (yes, real world example and I'm obfuscating details for clarity of the story). While doing service in a 3rd world country, I was trying to get people to help each other out. Pretty basic stuff like "don't be a dick, help with service projects" etc. This one family was better off than the others in the neighborhood ... and by that I mean his house had a ceiling to where you couldn't see the corrugated tin roof overhead, as well as painted walls an a throw rug on linoleum flooring. By 1st world standards it was a pretty shitty place, but by 3rd world standards it wasn't that bad. ... thing is, this guy was one of the most arrogant sonuvabitches I have ever met. Because what, his house was borderline 2nd world instead of 3rd world? ... so compare that to your arguments of "well he's got more than me-" and ask "on what scale?"
So, here's some simple definitions of pride and finance. (if you hate everything that the patriarchy and Christianity has to offer because you're a snowflake led by the nose ... these definitions were drawn from Hindu beliefs on the topic. That means I'm being diverse so you can cite this and get your jollies in)
Proud because you're better than your inferiors = this is what 90% of people think of when they think of pride. But this is only 1 of 7 major ways it manifests it.
- it's worth noting that most of these people don't know how to save money. So sooner or later they'll file bankruptcy.
Proud because you're better than your superiors = this is WAAAAAY more prevalent. For artists it's "I don't see why he has followers and I don't, I work just as hard!". It's also a huge source of contempt for artists v cosplayers (same reason, they don't think cosplayers work as hard as they're rewarded). Just about everyone who subscribes to "it's not my fault"-isms of the 99% and patriarchy also exhibit this flaw.
= and it's worth noting that people who start like this BECOME proud of their achievements and proud that they're better than their inferiors IF they obtain wealth.
- again, because they think they're ENTITLED to wealth or power that their superiors have because they're more qualified or virtuous or whatever ... they often lose sight of how finance works. So they'll either never obtain wealth to begin with, or be so quickly departed that they'll never hold onto it for long
Proud because you're better than your colleagues = this is also pernicious and harder to detect. If you're in even competition and lose, then get butthurt ... there you go.
- simply put it makes you look like an asshole, so nobody will network with you which closes all kinds of opportunity doors you never knew existed
Jealousy is a form of pride = if you believe that your inferiority is in itself a sign of virtue. Just consider all the humble braggers. We all make fun of hipsters because they enjoy things that aren't 'mainstream' (or worse they create stuff that isn't mainstream so it makes them better) ... but this also extends to people who say "I work and I fail, therefore I am amazing"
- again, asshole. if you're being a little catty bitch nobody's going to want to promote you unless they're also a catty bitch and you're buttering them up
Vanity pride is a bit more screwball, but thinking that your vices are virtues is a thing. Basically just being blind to real consequences because you want to make a point.
- Simple example, again to finances, it's a vice to spend excess money on credit card debt, liquor, smoking, excessive video games, clubbing, junk food, etc. But by doing so you can get your jollies in and be a cool kid
Being proud about stuff you didn't actually do? ... this is for people who live in the past. Just think Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite, wistfully thinking that if coach had put him in his team would have won state and he'd be an NFL player. It didn't happen, but it's a point of pride. Missing the promotion, not getting the girl, designing something grand you never actually implemented? All of that is sources of pride.
- and yeah, like I said: living in lala land. This is one of the hardest forms of pride to overcome because it's so detached from reality.
Naturally egocentricism is also pride = aka being a greedy bastard
So, again
- pride can be manifest at all levels of financial prosperity (which is really just relativistic comparisons)
- if that's the case? then pride is independent of finance. There isn't any real correlation
-- end ---
And now, this is the part where I've offended you because you've made a stand against the rich and I've said "you're wrong." It's also a double sting because it comes with a lesson of "you need to get your own damn life in order and stop worrying about changing the world."
At which point, if you're offended just unsubscribe from my journals, cancel commissions, and unwatch me. Because what will happen is the following (and I state this every time I post a journal and every time I get a new moron who follows this same pattern).
- you'll likely try to say everything I said is wrong in order to justify your own actions. We'll have a discussion and I won't change my mind, further infuriating you.
- Either way, you'll bottle up your anger
- then in about 1-3 weeks, depending on how long it takes for you to boil over, you'll rage at me. And you'll rage hard. More than likely trying to play a bigot card on me.
- I'll call you out on that shit, and block you
I feel it's silly for me to do this, but it happens every time. And it's a waste of my time and yours, so if you're so offended by me saying that pride and finance are independent of each other = just cut the ties yourself.
Primarily this is me clearing up a misconception that I run into now and then = a lot of people think you have to be rich to be prideful.
...
Of course, when I say it like that it sounds stupid ... which is a common rhetoric tactic to ridicule the self righteous as well as to get your attention.
Here's a blunt example: person gets on a high horse and talks about their evil employers getting away with earning so much money.
this is where you say "but they's evil!" By saying that, it creates an unsaid conditional statement that it's impossible to get rich without doing unethical things. (which obviously isn't the case, that's just stupid) It also creates a secondary resultant clause of "I don't have money, nor do I seek after improving my lot in life by obtaining more wealth, therefore I am not evil."
Simply put = pride is a state of mind that you are better than other people. This happens independent of personal finances, and if anything pride will severely hinder your ability to become financially successful.
Case Point: what is being rich?
- Here's the most poignant example I can think of (yes, real world example and I'm obfuscating details for clarity of the story). While doing service in a 3rd world country, I was trying to get people to help each other out. Pretty basic stuff like "don't be a dick, help with service projects" etc. This one family was better off than the others in the neighborhood ... and by that I mean his house had a ceiling to where you couldn't see the corrugated tin roof overhead, as well as painted walls an a throw rug on linoleum flooring. By 1st world standards it was a pretty shitty place, but by 3rd world standards it wasn't that bad. ... thing is, this guy was one of the most arrogant sonuvabitches I have ever met. Because what, his house was borderline 2nd world instead of 3rd world? ... so compare that to your arguments of "well he's got more than me-" and ask "on what scale?"
So, here's some simple definitions of pride and finance. (if you hate everything that the patriarchy and Christianity has to offer because you're a snowflake led by the nose ... these definitions were drawn from Hindu beliefs on the topic. That means I'm being diverse so you can cite this and get your jollies in)
Proud because you're better than your inferiors = this is what 90% of people think of when they think of pride. But this is only 1 of 7 major ways it manifests it.
- it's worth noting that most of these people don't know how to save money. So sooner or later they'll file bankruptcy.
Proud because you're better than your superiors = this is WAAAAAY more prevalent. For artists it's "I don't see why he has followers and I don't, I work just as hard!". It's also a huge source of contempt for artists v cosplayers (same reason, they don't think cosplayers work as hard as they're rewarded). Just about everyone who subscribes to "it's not my fault"-isms of the 99% and patriarchy also exhibit this flaw.
= and it's worth noting that people who start like this BECOME proud of their achievements and proud that they're better than their inferiors IF they obtain wealth.
- again, because they think they're ENTITLED to wealth or power that their superiors have because they're more qualified or virtuous or whatever ... they often lose sight of how finance works. So they'll either never obtain wealth to begin with, or be so quickly departed that they'll never hold onto it for long
Proud because you're better than your colleagues = this is also pernicious and harder to detect. If you're in even competition and lose, then get butthurt ... there you go.
- simply put it makes you look like an asshole, so nobody will network with you which closes all kinds of opportunity doors you never knew existed
Jealousy is a form of pride = if you believe that your inferiority is in itself a sign of virtue. Just consider all the humble braggers. We all make fun of hipsters because they enjoy things that aren't 'mainstream' (or worse they create stuff that isn't mainstream so it makes them better) ... but this also extends to people who say "I work and I fail, therefore I am amazing"
- again, asshole. if you're being a little catty bitch nobody's going to want to promote you unless they're also a catty bitch and you're buttering them up
Vanity pride is a bit more screwball, but thinking that your vices are virtues is a thing. Basically just being blind to real consequences because you want to make a point.
- Simple example, again to finances, it's a vice to spend excess money on credit card debt, liquor, smoking, excessive video games, clubbing, junk food, etc. But by doing so you can get your jollies in and be a cool kid
Being proud about stuff you didn't actually do? ... this is for people who live in the past. Just think Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite, wistfully thinking that if coach had put him in his team would have won state and he'd be an NFL player. It didn't happen, but it's a point of pride. Missing the promotion, not getting the girl, designing something grand you never actually implemented? All of that is sources of pride.
- and yeah, like I said: living in lala land. This is one of the hardest forms of pride to overcome because it's so detached from reality.
Naturally egocentricism is also pride = aka being a greedy bastard
So, again
- pride can be manifest at all levels of financial prosperity (which is really just relativistic comparisons)
- if that's the case? then pride is independent of finance. There isn't any real correlation
-- end ---
And now, this is the part where I've offended you because you've made a stand against the rich and I've said "you're wrong." It's also a double sting because it comes with a lesson of "you need to get your own damn life in order and stop worrying about changing the world."
At which point, if you're offended just unsubscribe from my journals, cancel commissions, and unwatch me. Because what will happen is the following (and I state this every time I post a journal and every time I get a new moron who follows this same pattern).
- you'll likely try to say everything I said is wrong in order to justify your own actions. We'll have a discussion and I won't change my mind, further infuriating you.
- Either way, you'll bottle up your anger
- then in about 1-3 weeks, depending on how long it takes for you to boil over, you'll rage at me. And you'll rage hard. More than likely trying to play a bigot card on me.
- I'll call you out on that shit, and block you
I feel it's silly for me to do this, but it happens every time. And it's a waste of my time and yours, so if you're so offended by me saying that pride and finance are independent of each other = just cut the ties yourself.
Hmm. I'm not really a great person and now I can count how in so many different ways.
But I also view debates that hinge on literal definitions as "beneath contempt" because it's the most unintelligent line of thought I know of in existence. Being able to recite definitions and nothing more is the realm of grade school students and preschoolers. When present in adults - I've seen it most commonly used in those who are seeking to justify their own behavior against criticism.
Because if you don't have anything intelligent to say? you can always find fault in a typo.
This is the first time I recall ever seeing you leave a comment on my page. And I'll let you know upfront this is a really bad first impression. Please don't be that guy I eventually have to ban and block (the type I referred to in the last section of this journal). 'Cause right now you're showing all the red flags associated with this behavior.
Sorry to be a grump, but I just want to nip this in the bud.