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Your thoughts ? - What do you want from my Patreon ? :)
7 years ago
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Hey y'all,
So, with less than a week to go, I've drawn up my intended rewards, and I'd be really interested to see what you all think. Most importantly, I want to know what you'd want from the Patreon of an artist like me :) I'd be really grateful if you could take a peek, and give me any feedback you can think of.
If I make changes based on feedback, I'll put up another Preview of them before my Patreon goes Live on the 14th :)
Thanks in advance, you lovelies !
I'll be streaming over on Picarto for the Launch on 14th April at 5pm EST, 10pm BST or 2pm PDT.
More details on my journal here
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Quick info :
'Values' for Fox Tokens will be explicit on my 'About' page, but for now I'll put them here. Hopefully this will all make sense but if it doesn't, that's ace feedback !
Fox Tokens :
2 Fox Tokens = Conbadge.
3 Fox Tokens = Lineart.
5 Fox Tokens = Shaded lineart or graphite, or a Gourmet Conbadge.
6 Fox Tokens = Shaded colour.
8 Fox Tokens = Full Colour Image
15 Fox Tokens = Full paint / render with background
NSFW = +1 Fox Token
Extreme details (e.g. many many tentacles) = +1 Fox Token
Extra characters - just ask :)
Rapidsketch - This is an exercise I made up for myself, to keep my sketching skills sharp and teach me not to procrastinate. I pick a Thing, and I have to draw it within 10 minutes. The Rapidsketch Raffle will allow the winner to decide what my weekly Rapidsketch will be - any number of characters, wierd anime, obscure kinks and it'll be a 10 minute sketch. (If I'm having a week where I want to do multiple rapidsketches, there'll be multiple raffles!)
Also, any Launch Party rewards will be totally seperate from all this :)
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REWARDS
Just visiting - $1 per month
For this amount, you'll have access to my Patron-Only Livestream sessions, some nawty things I'll share with Patrons Only, and know that you're helping make the world a wierder/wilder/more wonderful place by helping me produce art and comics. Thank you !
Visitor ++ - $3 per month
For $3, you'll have access to my Patron-Only Livestream Sessions, Patron-Only content and all of the TF Clinic sequences, plus an entry into my RapidSketch raffle every week.
You also gain a vote in the TF Clinic, when the Clinic is back up and running.
This support means I can dedicate more time to my projects and produce more Patron-Only art and regular comics for you all. Thank you for your support !
Regular Visitor (Rapidsketch Raffle) $5 per month (Limit : 100)
Welcome ! For this amount, you'll be entered into the Rapidsketch Raffle every week, and recieve a Fox Token every 2 months to trade in for custom art.
You'll also get everything the Visitor Pledges do.
Season Pass (Raffle +1 Fox Token for custom art) - $10 per month (Limit : 50)
Great to see you so often. For this amount, you'll recieve 1 Fox Token every month, to trade in for custom art.
You'll be entered into the Rapidsketch raffle every week and get access to my Patron-Only Livestreams and HD art.
You'll also get access to my tutorials and how-tos for Sculpting and TF, as soon as we reach that Goal.
"Cuddles" Season Pass (Raffle, +2 special fox tokens) $20 per month (Limit : 5)
This one's a limited edition especially for cuddly little balls of fluff.
You'll recieve 2 Fox Tokens every month to trade in for custom art, but gain the special bonus of being able to have a grown up in the picture with you for no extra tokens.
*No XXX behaviour or dirty diaper play I'm afraid.
"TF Clinic" Season Pass (Raffle +2.5 Fox Tokens +more) - $25 per month (Limit : 20)
As well as the bonuses from earlier tiers, you'll be invited to create a character to become part of the staff at the TF Clinic when it reopens later this year.
You'll recieve 2.5 Fox Tokens each month* to trade in for custom art.
*No foxes are harmed in the making of 'half' fox tokens. How do they do it ? We don't know. Foxes are sneaky.
"Perfectly Normal" Season Pass (Raffle+ 2.5 Fox Tokens) - $25 per month
You'll recieve 2.5 Fox Tokens each month* to trade in for custom art.
As well as this and the bonuses from previous tiers, you'll recieve a 5% discount on any art you commission from me.
*No foxes are harmed in the making of 'half' fox tokens. How do they do it ? We don't know. Foxes are sneaky.
The Connoisseur (Raffle, Fox Tokens + unique ) - $50 per month (Limit : 5)
Limited Slots : You'll recieve 4 Fox Tokens a month, as well as all the Raffle Entries, Patron Only Art, Tutorials and the like that I'll be posting.
Unique to this tier, if you like, you can use your Fox Tokens to commission a 100% custom fully painted 4-5inch sculpture, either SFW or NSFW.
Once the TF Clinic is running again, you can also submit 1 candidate each year who will be admitted to the TF Clinic, picking their name, gender, demeanor, and aspiration animal. You can also submit prompts for their physical appearance and history.
So, with less than a week to go, I've drawn up my intended rewards, and I'd be really interested to see what you all think. Most importantly, I want to know what you'd want from the Patreon of an artist like me :) I'd be really grateful if you could take a peek, and give me any feedback you can think of.
If I make changes based on feedback, I'll put up another Preview of them before my Patreon goes Live on the 14th :)
Thanks in advance, you lovelies !
I'll be streaming over on Picarto for the Launch on 14th April at 5pm EST, 10pm BST or 2pm PDT.
More details on my journal here
**********************************
Quick info :
'Values' for Fox Tokens will be explicit on my 'About' page, but for now I'll put them here. Hopefully this will all make sense but if it doesn't, that's ace feedback !
Fox Tokens :
2 Fox Tokens = Conbadge.
3 Fox Tokens = Lineart.
5 Fox Tokens = Shaded lineart or graphite, or a Gourmet Conbadge.
6 Fox Tokens = Shaded colour.
8 Fox Tokens = Full Colour Image
15 Fox Tokens = Full paint / render with background
NSFW = +1 Fox Token
Extreme details (e.g. many many tentacles) = +1 Fox Token
Extra characters - just ask :)
Rapidsketch - This is an exercise I made up for myself, to keep my sketching skills sharp and teach me not to procrastinate. I pick a Thing, and I have to draw it within 10 minutes. The Rapidsketch Raffle will allow the winner to decide what my weekly Rapidsketch will be - any number of characters, wierd anime, obscure kinks and it'll be a 10 minute sketch. (If I'm having a week where I want to do multiple rapidsketches, there'll be multiple raffles!)
Also, any Launch Party rewards will be totally seperate from all this :)
**********************
REWARDS
Just visiting - $1 per month
For this amount, you'll have access to my Patron-Only Livestream sessions, some nawty things I'll share with Patrons Only, and know that you're helping make the world a wierder/wilder/more wonderful place by helping me produce art and comics. Thank you !
Visitor ++ - $3 per month
For $3, you'll have access to my Patron-Only Livestream Sessions, Patron-Only content and all of the TF Clinic sequences, plus an entry into my RapidSketch raffle every week.
You also gain a vote in the TF Clinic, when the Clinic is back up and running.
This support means I can dedicate more time to my projects and produce more Patron-Only art and regular comics for you all. Thank you for your support !
Regular Visitor (Rapidsketch Raffle) $5 per month (Limit : 100)
Welcome ! For this amount, you'll be entered into the Rapidsketch Raffle every week, and recieve a Fox Token every 2 months to trade in for custom art.
You'll also get everything the Visitor Pledges do.
Season Pass (Raffle +1 Fox Token for custom art) - $10 per month (Limit : 50)
Great to see you so often. For this amount, you'll recieve 1 Fox Token every month, to trade in for custom art.
You'll be entered into the Rapidsketch raffle every week and get access to my Patron-Only Livestreams and HD art.
You'll also get access to my tutorials and how-tos for Sculpting and TF, as soon as we reach that Goal.
"Cuddles" Season Pass (Raffle, +2 special fox tokens) $20 per month (Limit : 5)
This one's a limited edition especially for cuddly little balls of fluff.
You'll recieve 2 Fox Tokens every month to trade in for custom art, but gain the special bonus of being able to have a grown up in the picture with you for no extra tokens.
*No XXX behaviour or dirty diaper play I'm afraid.
"TF Clinic" Season Pass (Raffle +2.5 Fox Tokens +more) - $25 per month (Limit : 20)
As well as the bonuses from earlier tiers, you'll be invited to create a character to become part of the staff at the TF Clinic when it reopens later this year.
You'll recieve 2.5 Fox Tokens each month* to trade in for custom art.
*No foxes are harmed in the making of 'half' fox tokens. How do they do it ? We don't know. Foxes are sneaky.
"Perfectly Normal" Season Pass (Raffle+ 2.5 Fox Tokens) - $25 per month
You'll recieve 2.5 Fox Tokens each month* to trade in for custom art.
As well as this and the bonuses from previous tiers, you'll recieve a 5% discount on any art you commission from me.
*No foxes are harmed in the making of 'half' fox tokens. How do they do it ? We don't know. Foxes are sneaky.
The Connoisseur (Raffle, Fox Tokens + unique ) - $50 per month (Limit : 5)
Limited Slots : You'll recieve 4 Fox Tokens a month, as well as all the Raffle Entries, Patron Only Art, Tutorials and the like that I'll be posting.
Unique to this tier, if you like, you can use your Fox Tokens to commission a 100% custom fully painted 4-5inch sculpture, either SFW or NSFW.
Once the TF Clinic is running again, you can also submit 1 candidate each year who will be admitted to the TF Clinic, picking their name, gender, demeanor, and aspiration animal. You can also submit prompts for their physical appearance and history.
Regarding artwork, I assume that some of it will be published on Patreon and also published elsewhere (e.g. here or at the new TF clinic site). Maybe you could publish it a day early on Patreon, as an extra reward for your paying customers? (This won't apply to anything which is exclusive to Patreon.)
For the Connoisseur level, how many tokens will it cost to get a sculpture? I can see that getting complicated, e.g. if I start out at $5/month, then go up to $50/month, can I use the tokens that I got at a lower level? Or if I start out at $50/month, then drop to a lower level, can I still cash in the tokens from the higher level? I think it would be simpler just to say "n tokens for a sculpture", open to everyone; if you're worried that it will be really labour intensive, set a suitably high threshold.
I know that you defined the RapidSketch raffle in your "launch party" post:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8683365/
However, I think it would be worthwhile to put it on this page too, especially once this all goes over to Patreon.
The Connoisseur level was the most recent that I added, so I had the least time to revise. It's really handy to have the holes so thoroughly poked in it so quickly XD I hadn't given thought to what happens if someone changes their support level down from it. So, thanks !
I will definitely clarify with regard to Connoisseur - it needs to be sorted out. Funnily enough, I had plans for Dragon Tokens right at the beginning, but I nixed it because it sadly started looking too complicated Didn't want people to feel like they needed an Accountancy Degree to get rewards XD But I'm chewing on different ideas, including yours, now. Thank you for the amazing feedback.
As for the Day-Early for non-Patreon exclusive work, that's a great idea. I'll include that - maybe even a week... will ponder. Explaining rapidsketch more clearly here, also great feedback, will do
For the doubling up of Fox Tokens... I... erm... sort of fell in love with the idea of sneaky foxes making sneaky half-Fox tokens XD A bit of fun amid the business, and keeping the prices from looking too expensive. Now, on the one hand, wedding yourself to a bit of silliness is never a strong way forward. On the other, before I nix the silliness in the name of practicality, do you mind if I ask... how strongly do you feel that I should double up and avoid halves ? If you thought it might be an idea to make it slightly tidier, I may keep them. If you thought it would be outright better and more attractive, I'll double them up.
Basically, I think there's a psychological aspect to this: I give you money this month, and you give me A Thing. I give you money again next month, and you give me Another Thing. By contrast, if I give money this month for the promise of a double reward next month, that's less appealing. (Well, not so much for me personally, but for people in general.) There's still an aspect of delayed gratification until I can actually cash in the tokens, but I definitely think you should go for the positive reinforcement of monthly rewards every month.
I think you are being smart to set things up so that it will take a while for people to build up a stock of tokens, giving it a slow ramp-up. But watch out that you may get a rush of orders after a few months (when a wave of people all get enough tokens to order lineart or whatever is popular). Might also get waves of badge orders just before cons? So I guess you'll want to have a little queue or something, to smooth it out.
One last thought: I'm guessing that at some point people will want to club together to spend their tokens on a single, more expensive thing (group pic or something), or trade their tokens. Worth having a think in advance whether you want to allow that. (My zero cents' worth: former seems reasonable, especially if you charge more for extra characters? But I'd suggest saying explicitly that the tokens are not tradeable, otherwise you may have a book-keeping nightmare on your hands.)
Gotta admit, I was particularly curious what people's take on the art-for-tokens ratio would be, so thank you especially for your thoughts on it :)
Very good point on multiple-character or multiple-customer pics too. I hadn't thought to pin that down, but you're right. I think your suggestion is perfect - being explicit about it avoids any confusion or disappointment, and people could always choose to pool their tokens for one piece or order art of someone else if they want to. I'll include that. Thanks!