That truthfully is always up to the owner. But if it seems harmless to them, then it could be a good idea.

Among friends, is another thing. They may or may not support it, based how they feel about it. But should ultimately be up to the owner

Great answer, thanks for your insight bro!

Welcome!

Hopefully even despite that, friends will still be friends

Huh o3o nevery really thought about it ^^; id personally say heck yea though, Having a Em toy would be cool >#>; and if someone wanted to base something off of a character of mine id be flattered they asked me first and say heck yea go for it! So long as its not a direct copy of the character top to bottom im fine with any inspiration they may give :3

As for what my followers would think...Honestly no clue o3o so many and so varied i have no idea XP not sure much would happen though. The ones that would want it would clammier for it and the ones that wouldn't i don't think would mind, my characters my decision >3> but if they did well, idk XP there's so many different people with different opinions. I just know what id want, and how id do it, i figured id deal with the aftermath as it came XP

Hmm, so if it were a replica of your character's bits, it wouldn't be okay even if you were given a cut of each sale?

As for the followers, yeah, everyone has their own thoughts about specific matters. Could be jealousy, or could be happy that the hard work put into the character was noticed and then the opportunity presented.

The aftermath would be the main concern for me.

No no id be perfectly fine and welcome it o3o; im not sure what in my writing made it seem like i wouldn't >//>

As for that ive..never honestly cared ^^; i love it when people like my stuff and that's why i post it, but if you dont like it, well that's just unfortunate. But their not your characters, and their not your ideas, their mine and my ideas, and i like them. You can try and dissuade me from doing it but if i want to im going to >3> and you can just F$!@$ off if your going to try and argue with me without any reasoning other than 'i dont want you to.' Not your decision to make, its mine, so if i want to, i will o3o (sorry to say 'you' all over the place in there i don't mean you as in you i mean you as in whomever would be questioning it ^^;)

In the end we all here to have fun, and i think if someone wanted to make a lovely toy out of a character of mine that would be great and fun :3 If your worried about community back lash though...well then feel free to be o3o; i cant say much else to make you not be XP a community you want to appease is a powerful thing, i personally just make sure that the people close to me like what i do, if others do that's great :3 but if not, dont let the door hit yea on the way out X3

So, I have a question and that is why would you do it, what motivations do you have for doing it?

And my next question is what would make your character more deserving of this sort of thing compared to someone else who also spent the same amount of time designing their character?

A bit of monetary value, and the fact that id probably want to use it myself >///> especially if it was a plushie or something >3<

Id never think my character would be more deserving though o3o that's purelly subjective. I would never think my work is better than another's or more deserving of something, i just hope people like it >3>

And I agree that it is nice to have people like your character because that is the hope of every creator, but to me this gets complicated, you did not create your character to be a commercial item bought and sold by strangers.

If you commissioned someone to make the item and then gave them permission to sell it after the fact, that would be a different context to just someone saying I like your character and want to make a product from that specific design.

And if think that your character is not more special than any others, why would agree to let yours be commercialized when there are plenty of others would like the same thing.


Personally I disagree with this because I actively avoid trying to make it seem like my character is somehow better than someone else's regardless if I spent a few hours to days designing it and 1000's of dollars of art of that character, because I don't think I would be deserving of such an opportunity because all that I have done, I did for myself, I did not nothing to earn that opportunity other than what I did for myself.

So I would instead help the person design a new character using mine a model/base/starting point but then allowing them to create something unique and purpose built.

Hmh o3o *shrugs* valid points, hmmm...I approach a lot of things with ambiguity o3o I think if the person came to me in the first place THEY believe that THEY like my character more than others, and want to do something with them, which im perfectly fine with X3 but i can see your point of view as thinking that's saying my character is 'better' than others then if i accept such views. To them it might be true, they might also think they'll hit a better audience, simply not want to go through the process of making there own, or any other reason. While i wont view my character as 'better' than others i wont shut down others feeling that it might be, which might seem like then I DO think that they are better. I dont think they are, and will not peruse ideas based upon a assumption or feeling that they are, but I also dont want to turn away opportunities or ideas based on others feelings. Sure ill help them make something different based off the idea of my character, but if they really really want to use MY character, and are willing to ask me for permission to do so, I wont say no out of principle o3o Ill accept the opportunity XP BUT that's just how i feel. You clearly feel different, so besides what ive already said i wont try to change that XP dont want a comment war on this thing >3>; Id rather leave it as two clearly defined views XP

Its all up the creator in the end and the individuals interpretation after the fact anyway. :3

A few things, I thrive off discussion of an idea, because differing view points prevents confirmation bias and that I tend to make judgements based on logic, ethics, and morality. [Which are subject to change with more knowledge and input]

While the creator has the ultimate choice, it still stands in this weird area because I don't think a particular character belonging to anyone should receive such special attention. Like Artica gettings attention from creators just for being Artica and having the resources to buy literally boat loads of art. Or any other more recognizable character for that matter.

It is kind of like the Kardashians getting a lot of attention just for being the Kardashians unlike Bill Gates or Steve Jobs who built their empires from almost nothing and then used their influence to leave large meaningful impacts on society as a whole.

True true XP but now where getting into societal problems as a whole. More money = more stuff, more stuff = more people like your stuff, more people like your stuff = more popular you are. That's just how our society currently runs, people crave popularity, and want to be near those that are popular, to taste that feeling. I personally dont like it, but a lot of people do. But its almost 2am for me and my mind is becoming mush for sociology x3 *passes out*

That is fine, but my brain runs all the time regardless of time of day. [Is the closest thing you can get to a philosopher]

I am actually very weirded out by random things like this, because I didn't really do much to warrant such attention other than a likable design. And usually if I am gifted something I try to give something in return. [trust me this is even worse IRL if you have a friend that gets your something for a holiday and you didn't get anyone anything, not because you don;t care but because you do't expect it]

Also I want my designs to be noticed, but not to the point of being swarmed by people, because the friendships I have made feel more meaningful that way.

I feel like that if you allow your character's bits to be brought to life as a toy, you own the idea of the shape of the toy and they are merely molding plastic into that shape. Plastic is plastic. It is your shape that is unique and is what makes it its own product.

You should be guaranteed a large cut of it anyway because you have artist's copyright or however it goes. It's your idea and you've published it in the shape of your idea. Heck, you probably could've started selling toys before they came to you and made your own business that way.

But it largely depends on what you two agree on, on how much each idea, the idea of the shape and the idea of the molding, is a part of the decision on how much cut you get. But you should be guaranteed it anyway or any kind of compensation.

As for whether followers would like it, it depends on how you want to represent yourself to the people. Many may enjoy having the toy. Many may be against it because of principles. But honestly, the only obligation you have is to yourself and any obligation you feel your followers should have. They follow you for a reason, after all.

PS, love your character.

Thanks for your well constructed post!
I do agree, it ultimately is up to the character owner in the end.

When it comes to representation to the people, I like to think the majority would be glad of the offer and of course, it'll depend on the quality of the collaboration as well. If it's a high quality product at a great price versus the competition (kind of like AMD vs intel nowdays), more positive support ought to come of it.

I'm glad you dig her! If others continue appreciating her as I do, more art will flow.

I will be interested to see where this leads.

Actually, bad dragon toys has 1 or 2 models based from characters/songs.
I can't tell you if they got royalties for sales, but for a while they were mods in the forums. Don't think it lead to anything more then a little boost in popularity for the character author.

But in a position like that, he'll yeah I'd take the opportunity. BUT only after laying down a rule and reaching the agreement that I still own the copyright to my character.

Completely agreed on the copyright. If someone wants to literally buy years of design hours and enjoyment the art has brought, that's a big 'Fuck you'!

Thanks for your comment, and yeah, it's something that doesn't happen very often so I'd take it too.

if a company like BD approached me to make a toy modeled after argent id happily let them do it as long as i got one of every size for free lol

Haha, that'd be a cool deal I suppose.

No idea, doesn't pertain to the topic though does it?
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Exactly, lol
Plus they keep making their movies or w/e. This is a question of: Will people be happy if you get passive income for hard work put into a char design, or will they spurn you?

Generous for sure, glad to see people like you in the world!
Also, 100% agree with praise as fur / gamer.

Well worth investigating!