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My view on the highly publicized Anti-Bestiality Crusades
16 years ago
Now, I'm going to be honest for a moment: As great as I think it is that people are trying to clean up Fur Affinity, this whole "crusade against bestiality" comes off as a tad silly, for three reasons.
First off, quite frankly, I highly doubt that the general internet will ever have a positive view of furries. As it stands, the majority of internet savvy people get what they know about furries from websites like 4chan and Something Awful, and the stigma usually sticks until any of those people in question become a furry themselves. Unless these bestiality bannings gain widespread attention across the internet, I don't see anything meaningful coming from these bans, aside from the fact that you'll no longer have to go to a site where, in some obscure corner, a bunch of dog rapists like to congregate and talk about how wonderful their empty sex lives are.
But really, when you think about it, of what use is it to spend a large chunk of your free time, scowering Fur Affinity for obscene comments in order to out any possible dogfuckers? I mean, Fur Affinity is merely a website on the internet, and when it boils down to it, zoophiles being here don't necessarily degrade the quality of your user experience. Like it or not, there is a large minority (possibly majority, but I'll be kind) of furries that are creepy. Babyfurs, cubfurs, furries who roleplay and public and advertise their master/slave situations like they were real, meaningful relationships... at the end of the day, no matter what we do, furries will be seen as a community consisting of goddamn weirdos, and when you consider that, it's really not worth wasting several hours, or even days trying to get the zoophiles banned, as changing the image of an internet community isn't really worth fucking up your own life over.
Would it be fantastic if all the doggy diddlers could be banned from FA, whether they've admitted to it or not; Absolutely. But the thing is, doing this doesn't really help anyone. The dog diddlers who are banned will continue to abuse their animals without any legal interference, and really, it's not like the "creepers" of the furry fandom are really being eradicated, as the people who like to fuck dogs aren't the only ones who give the fandom an embarrassing name.
But that leads me to a good point: what good exactly does getting zoophiles banned from Fur Affinity really do, besides feeling accomplished as a troll? The mentally sick person in question hasn't really been provided with any help, and thus the people in question will not stop abusing their animals. Honestly, I have a few qualms with the way people in this community argue against zoophilia; whenever someone is outed as being a bestiality enthusiast, it rarely ever seems as if someone structures their arguments with the intention of actually getting through to the person that yes, perhaps fucking animals is a sick and wrong practice. Whenever I've seen people on this website argue against doggy diddling, it seems as if the entire argument is structured in order to improve the image of that person, as the dogfucker and the anti-dog-fucker run in circles, making the same arguments over and over, while proceedingly typing longer and longer posts without really doing anything besides antagonizing the other side and stirring up drama.
It could be argued that there's no point in trying to reason with zoophiles, Ebon Lupus being a fine example of someone who is firmly set in their ways. But considering it's generally the youth that use this site now and days, I'm pretty sure that if people took an approach where they actually try to convince the other person that their hobby is destructive and immoral (not to mention a sign that their life has taken a severe turn for the worst), that they would actually be making a meaningful contribution to society, rather than trying to boost their troll cred by igniting the other person's ire.
So really, before anyone wastes anymore of their time hunting high and low trying to ban the population of animal abusers from this site, take a moment and think what level of good such actions would truly be doing. Step outside of that troll mindset, as well as that possibly bubble of misanthropy, and realize that unless you make an honest, endearing argument against the practice of bestiality, you're only wasting your time, and only contributing to whatever negative views you may have of society for not actually contributing anything helpful to the world. If you want to see change, create change by catering to the humanity of others, rather than embarking on a crusade that, in the end, will have little meaningful impact on any side of the spectrum.
Thank you for reading my pompously, ridiculously long wall of words.
First off, quite frankly, I highly doubt that the general internet will ever have a positive view of furries. As it stands, the majority of internet savvy people get what they know about furries from websites like 4chan and Something Awful, and the stigma usually sticks until any of those people in question become a furry themselves. Unless these bestiality bannings gain widespread attention across the internet, I don't see anything meaningful coming from these bans, aside from the fact that you'll no longer have to go to a site where, in some obscure corner, a bunch of dog rapists like to congregate and talk about how wonderful their empty sex lives are.
But really, when you think about it, of what use is it to spend a large chunk of your free time, scowering Fur Affinity for obscene comments in order to out any possible dogfuckers? I mean, Fur Affinity is merely a website on the internet, and when it boils down to it, zoophiles being here don't necessarily degrade the quality of your user experience. Like it or not, there is a large minority (possibly majority, but I'll be kind) of furries that are creepy. Babyfurs, cubfurs, furries who roleplay and public and advertise their master/slave situations like they were real, meaningful relationships... at the end of the day, no matter what we do, furries will be seen as a community consisting of goddamn weirdos, and when you consider that, it's really not worth wasting several hours, or even days trying to get the zoophiles banned, as changing the image of an internet community isn't really worth fucking up your own life over.
Would it be fantastic if all the doggy diddlers could be banned from FA, whether they've admitted to it or not; Absolutely. But the thing is, doing this doesn't really help anyone. The dog diddlers who are banned will continue to abuse their animals without any legal interference, and really, it's not like the "creepers" of the furry fandom are really being eradicated, as the people who like to fuck dogs aren't the only ones who give the fandom an embarrassing name.
But that leads me to a good point: what good exactly does getting zoophiles banned from Fur Affinity really do, besides feeling accomplished as a troll? The mentally sick person in question hasn't really been provided with any help, and thus the people in question will not stop abusing their animals. Honestly, I have a few qualms with the way people in this community argue against zoophilia; whenever someone is outed as being a bestiality enthusiast, it rarely ever seems as if someone structures their arguments with the intention of actually getting through to the person that yes, perhaps fucking animals is a sick and wrong practice. Whenever I've seen people on this website argue against doggy diddling, it seems as if the entire argument is structured in order to improve the image of that person, as the dogfucker and the anti-dog-fucker run in circles, making the same arguments over and over, while proceedingly typing longer and longer posts without really doing anything besides antagonizing the other side and stirring up drama.
It could be argued that there's no point in trying to reason with zoophiles, Ebon Lupus being a fine example of someone who is firmly set in their ways. But considering it's generally the youth that use this site now and days, I'm pretty sure that if people took an approach where they actually try to convince the other person that their hobby is destructive and immoral (not to mention a sign that their life has taken a severe turn for the worst), that they would actually be making a meaningful contribution to society, rather than trying to boost their troll cred by igniting the other person's ire.
So really, before anyone wastes anymore of their time hunting high and low trying to ban the population of animal abusers from this site, take a moment and think what level of good such actions would truly be doing. Step outside of that troll mindset, as well as that possibly bubble of misanthropy, and realize that unless you make an honest, endearing argument against the practice of bestiality, you're only wasting your time, and only contributing to whatever negative views you may have of society for not actually contributing anything helpful to the world. If you want to see change, create change by catering to the humanity of others, rather than embarking on a crusade that, in the end, will have little meaningful impact on any side of the spectrum.
Thank you for reading my pompously, ridiculously long wall of words.
Positive social view is out of reach, yes. However, trying to improve something just for the sake of it is a noble, if difficult, battle.
I would love to reason with these people.
I would love to believe that they would understand that animals think and reason differently, and that what they are doing to them is unsafe, mainly for the animal.
But they won't listen. They equate sex to being love. They love their animals so much they feel the need to bone them.
Such broken perceptions can't be fixed. If you really need a scientific explanation as to why you shouldn't have sex with an animal, you're not company I'd like to keep. Simple as, bro.
My two shillings.
I just wish there was more of a movement to actually make a difference in the world, rather than sitting around and bickering that something should be done, you know? Antagonizing the ignorant is only fun for so long, before it becomes dry and stale. For me, trolling has lost the flare it once had (and it is pretty much trolling when someone makes an argument that will only pique the anger their target), and I'd honestly like to go the opposite route for once. You feel me at all?
That's why the community I made to vent negative feelings about bestiality/zoophilia is strictly a No-Trolling thing.
I'm open to debate and discussion and would love to know how to try and convince these people what they're doing is very potentially harmful.
/circlejerk
TEEHEE
but yeah it's not helping stop them, so who really cares. there's not a lot people on the internet can do anyway
I dunno, this is just my limited experience talking. Have you had bad experiences in the past with telling people about furries?
oh so dainty.
I cant abide said bestiality enthusiasts presence out and about here, for want of a more eloquent way of putting it, I just cant feel comfortable in a community which houses such characters who feel they can act with such impunity and indeed go to the lengths they even advocate what they're doin. Just the way I feel bro.
Also, maybe you should refrain from using the term 'dog diddlers'. The alliteration makes it too amusing.
But yes, thank you. :3
I lack insightful things to say I am sorry. :'(
Shame that stuff like this happens.
Jah.
I'd think in times like these people would have more important things to worry about than what these sick fucks do with their dicks. I know I do.
The way I see it, these crusaders see animal rapists in the same eyes that the general public sees sex offenders and offending pedophiles. Knowing that someone takes advantage of the defenseless makes it difficult to stand aside and not say anything about it, and although crusading with words alone will not change anything in most cases, it is enough to satisfy their need to tell these people off. It's just how people are.
Perhaps if there was no penalty for sex offenders (legal, social, or otherwise), then there would be more of them roaming the streets. Pretending that something like this is okay could possibly prompt non-offending zoophiles to act upon their urges. In that sense, I don't think we should let up on the front.
You write a powerful essay, by the way; bravo. I just don't know what to make of it at the moment.