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NEED YOUR HELP PEOPLE! (ABDL Art Account and ¿¿¿Patreon?
6 years ago
Aye aye everybody. I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP HERE
I've been thinking for a while about this all, but I'd like to know more about what YOU think about it.
I know a good portion of my followers are from the ABDL comunity, something i'm ultra gratefull (not only with you ABDL fans, but with all the other followers who are not into this but remain on my watchers list, even when they see from time to time things you don't like). And as you know, i try my best to offer my my services for everyone regardles their likes, hobbies and fetishes or if I am or not into what they are requesting (as long as I'm not asked to draw things I'm against, like Underage NSFW, or Pro-Rape Art). However!... I'm getting bigger and bigger as an illustrator and designer, my name is becoming more popular and a lot of new oportunities are appearing everyday, some are TCG's, VideogameArt, TabletTop companies, business brands, conferences on events and even a job as a college teacher...
The thing is... we all know some people don't aprove this kind of art and it may end in a backlash for me. Some people don't like the idea that the same guy who draws orcs and demons for a serious company is also drawing fanarts of final fantasy characters wearing diapers, or big humanoid wolfs sleeping on nurseries.
So i've been thinking on making a new account for these things, I'm still not sure about it. But It may help if I do. So people could watch what they want without watch what they don't want (as easy and obvious as it sound. XD).
Also, I've hear a lot of you on comments, messages and notes asking about requests regarles ABDL themed pieces and characters. Sadly, I'm not able to say yes. I'm a fulltime freelancer illustrator, the commissions i make are the ones that pay the bills and food. And don't really have spare time nor money to engage in requests of such type. In the same way i've received notes about people wanting to support me with tips, cause they can't afford full commissions or because they want to support me with extra money. But you all know me, I love to give things in return, so a patreon sounds like a good idea. Now.. I can't really make a patreon for my general art, cause it will produce the same problem about mixing abdl and not abdl art. so It will be abdl only. ¿why? cause most people who contected me with these ideas are abdl people.
I don't really know how this all works, i'm still new to this patreon things, I'm researching about it and learning. But I just wanna be sure everyone is happy. I don't like paywalls, so final pieces that result from there will be avaible for everyone too eventually. Maybe i'll focuss more on sketches and fanarts, so they don't interfere with my already tight workaround. Is not my intention to slow down my commissions. Comissions will always be my priority.
So.. yeah... don't know this are all ideas in my mind, but it will all depend on you.
What do you think?
any advice?
would you follow me on another account?
would you unfollow this account if i stop sharing here abdl art?
would you be interested in supporting me on patreon?
What would be interesting tiers and things to offer on patreon?
Again, this is not for sure at all.. but I'd like to know what do you think. cause this is a big deal for me. I've been avoiding patreon and side accounts for a loooooongtime, and now i just don't know what to do. XD
I've been thinking for a while about this all, but I'd like to know more about what YOU think about it.
I know a good portion of my followers are from the ABDL comunity, something i'm ultra gratefull (not only with you ABDL fans, but with all the other followers who are not into this but remain on my watchers list, even when they see from time to time things you don't like). And as you know, i try my best to offer my my services for everyone regardles their likes, hobbies and fetishes or if I am or not into what they are requesting (as long as I'm not asked to draw things I'm against, like Underage NSFW, or Pro-Rape Art). However!... I'm getting bigger and bigger as an illustrator and designer, my name is becoming more popular and a lot of new oportunities are appearing everyday, some are TCG's, VideogameArt, TabletTop companies, business brands, conferences on events and even a job as a college teacher...
The thing is... we all know some people don't aprove this kind of art and it may end in a backlash for me. Some people don't like the idea that the same guy who draws orcs and demons for a serious company is also drawing fanarts of final fantasy characters wearing diapers, or big humanoid wolfs sleeping on nurseries.
So i've been thinking on making a new account for these things, I'm still not sure about it. But It may help if I do. So people could watch what they want without watch what they don't want (as easy and obvious as it sound. XD).
Also, I've hear a lot of you on comments, messages and notes asking about requests regarles ABDL themed pieces and characters. Sadly, I'm not able to say yes. I'm a fulltime freelancer illustrator, the commissions i make are the ones that pay the bills and food. And don't really have spare time nor money to engage in requests of such type. In the same way i've received notes about people wanting to support me with tips, cause they can't afford full commissions or because they want to support me with extra money. But you all know me, I love to give things in return, so a patreon sounds like a good idea. Now.. I can't really make a patreon for my general art, cause it will produce the same problem about mixing abdl and not abdl art. so It will be abdl only. ¿why? cause most people who contected me with these ideas are abdl people.
I don't really know how this all works, i'm still new to this patreon things, I'm researching about it and learning. But I just wanna be sure everyone is happy. I don't like paywalls, so final pieces that result from there will be avaible for everyone too eventually. Maybe i'll focuss more on sketches and fanarts, so they don't interfere with my already tight workaround. Is not my intention to slow down my commissions. Comissions will always be my priority.
So.. yeah... don't know this are all ideas in my mind, but it will all depend on you.
What do you think?
any advice?
would you follow me on another account?
would you unfollow this account if i stop sharing here abdl art?
would you be interested in supporting me on patreon?
What would be interesting tiers and things to offer on patreon?
Again, this is not for sure at all.. but I'd like to know what do you think. cause this is a big deal for me. I've been avoiding patreon and side accounts for a loooooongtime, and now i just don't know what to do. XD
I have clients and followers that request/commission abdl themed art. And even most of my works are not ABDL and lots of my followers are not into abdl things, just a little fraction, there is a big fraction of followers that are into that. So I don't know what to do. I've found one or two watchers unfollow my page after I post an ABDL piece, but at the same time i've gotten more watchers than what i've lost because of the same pieces. So I'm in that situation. I don't really know what to do to content both kind of followers. XD
2. any advice? Do a second account or IB.
3. would you follow me on another account? If is this kind of things, I prefer to stay in this account or give you a little chance.
4. would you unfollow this account if i stop sharing here abdl art? No, I like your art.
5. would you be interested in supporting me on patreon? No, I have too many favourite artists. I prefer wait until you update your gallery in FA.
6. What would be interesting tiers and things to offer on patreon? I don't know. I am not interested in Patreon.
Honestly, never you can make everybody happy. Everytime anybody will have other ideas, and in this case preferences on arts. I would say, let one complete gallery of all your arts (as it is now. Because when somebody don't want to watch something, so just they should not watch it and look for only what they want.)
Maybe try create some folders on one account if it would be enought? (I am not sure if it is possible here on FA, on for example DA it works great). > But if here it won't work so I gueess make more accounts with focused on specific kind of arts would be only good for people overal, who want to see only some specific pieces of your great arts. And if somebody is interest into your art overal, so just can watch all accounts c:
But yes, at patreon it would be more complicated I guess... Sorry I noticed many of my favorites artist has patreon, but still didn't support them (on that patreon) I prefer classic order of commisions. ^^
Oh yeah. Here in FA and in DA, i use folders to keep everything organized and to help people watch what they want. ^^
Thanks again for your answer. it means a lot. ^^
Sometimes these situations end with the artist making more than one account to appease the masses or sticking to their one account and just pretty much saying "deal with it" to the folks who don't want to see certain content. As someone who really hates seeing so much vanilla furry porn everywhere, I'll put up with it and still follow an artist if they still do a good amount of the other content I'm watching them for.
I'd follow you on another account and would keep watching this one if it become the general content account. I like all of your content for the most part.
As for patreon, I would if I could but I don't exactly have the money to toss around nowadays. There will probably be a day I will support more than one group currently and at the time I'd more than willing to put money into yours among others.
The overall situation I've seen with the tiers it usually consist of these factors:
Giving people a look at WIPs if you don't post them normally
Giving access to high resolution versions of artwork you're will to provide it for
Having patreons be in a sort of monthly raffle for a commission of whatever quality you prefer
Giving early looks at comics you are working on
Patreon-only stuff that usually end up being posted weeks, months or a year later depending on how long you feel it should be behind the paywall.
Adding high tier folks to your Discord group if you have one.
And the list goes on...
I've run mostly in the "i draw a lot of things, deal with it", but sometimes i don't know if that's holding me back or how risky this really may be for me. Being open and tolerant as an artist could not be a good thing for some people. But again, i was building that posible patreon account and noticed my abdl works are just a few compared to the vast mayority of my work. I don't have an abdl portfolio, the same way i don't have an NSFW portfolio to show on that other gallery or a patreon (even when i have some things i've never posted or shared).
Maybe i should ignore this whole thing and keep everything as it is. That's another posibility, I'm already trying to run several accounts on diferent pages for my main nickname, and i'm not sure i want to add more extra logins in a separated navigator at the same time. XD