Really if you want to get them still it's fine, they're still gonna sell well, but it sucks they're turning around on something that's a staple of the games since the beginning

Some people, like me, have no desire to catch every pokemon.

I have a lot of mons that are my faves that prolly won't be in the Galar dex. Does that suck? Yeah. Will it be that way forever? No. I'll find new faves for gen 8 and prolly I'll be able to use those older mons again at another time.

Especially since it was promised just a few months ago. This was from the Pokemon bank press conference.

"And we will, of course, take great care to preserve the value that each of these Pokemon have to their trainers."
"With so many different parts of this Pokemon world, we wanted to make a single location where they could all come together, and use that to deliver a new experience that not only connects Pokemon with a variety of games..."

So they straight up lied. I don't blame people for being pissed.

The mons you transfer to HOME will still have things to do. I can imagine it being like Poke Pelago.

They'll still be there (as well as the National Dex), but they'll be in reserve until the time comes when you CAN use them.

You're not losing ANYTHING, you STILL have all your pokemon you worked so hard to get still there.

I honestly got more excited that we don't have every 'mon in the game. It makes me excited to see what this region has to fully offer. It's why I started doing blind nuzlockes since Black and White 2. I don't think I would've found the same new favourites if I didn't restrict myself to take what the game gave me! I'm tired of seeing the same 50 'mon in everyone's team when I want to have a friendly fun battle!

Also people are acting suprised that Game Freak is taking out a fun thing or mechanic for a new game as if they've never done it before ahaha

This

I didn't even know people were unhappy with it. Maybe I'm just easy to please. Then again, I never really went hardcore into trying to catch every single one. :o

So far I like what I've seen, except for the macro mode. And as someone who always liked the mystery dungeon series more, i can't wait to have a PMD game like that.

Eh, I'm the reverse. They gotta really impress me to make me wanna get it now. Everything feels like a major step back and I'm baffled at how Pokemon Home will work when you can't move your Pokemon into the new game

There was a statement in Corocoro that the pokemon you deposit in HOME will still play a role. So, it may en up being like Poke Pelago from Gen 7.

Oof, that's not great at all....

Although I disheartened by the news, I will probably still get shield . I am intrigued in which Pokémon do/don’t make it, and if there are generation bias towards gen 1. I will leave my critical analysis til I complete the story and give competitive another try, and do some stuff with friends. Although if Ditto isn’t in the game it’ll make breeding hell let’s be honest 😅. Oh well, need to stay positive

That's the spirit. These games are gonna freakin rule and it's plain as day.

Plus I need my precious sad lizard son.

Am I slightly bummed about the lack of a National Pokedex? Yes.

Am I still super excited for the game and going to get the game on day one and play through the whole thing and have a damn good time? HELL YES!

After pokemon lets go became unplayable for me due to drifting and unresponsiveness completely wreaking joycons and the lack of pro controller support I'm probably going to just get animal crossing instead, pokemon sword and shield just...doesn't really impress me that much and neither does gamefreaks track record, i'm not sure if it's a lack of time or if they just haven't improved after 20 something years of making pokemon games but ever since the 3DS they seem to have started pushing games out with problems such as bugs, poor performance and a lack of content with almost zero patches to fix any of them

You do realize, they really can't take time off and delay a new game right? There is a lot of thing Game Freak does. TGC, spin-offs, the anime. And where does all of that pull from?

The main games themselves.

I can't imagine the setbacks that would happen if GF delayed a main series game. They're in a very tough spot now. As the number of pokemon we get gets higher and higher, it's only going to be harder for them.

Would you rather wait 2 years for a game with full compatibility but almost no new pokemon?
Or a new game with a lot of new pokemon with compatibility that starts limited but changes over time?

I'm sorry but this isn't true.

Game Freak is hardly involved with the development of the TCG or even the overwhelming majority of the spin off games. Those are primarily developed by Creatures Inc, the third holder of the Pokemon license. They've only been responsible for the mainline games, Pokemon Quest, and were co-developers for Pokemon Dream Radar. Every other spin off and Pokemon related game has been by Creatures Inc or a third party developer like Spike Chunsoft for the Mystery Dungeon games.

I can't find much about who handles the anime other than that its just licensed by The Pokemon Company, which only leads me to believe Nintendo primarily handles it since Nintendo handles most of the franchising and licensing for the brand.

that does seem to check out, i remember colossium was made by genius sonority and pokemon channel was developed by Ambrella

It's a very poor idea for them to not plan to include all the pokemon at a later date, meaning people who use the Home system won't be able to do anything with those excluded pokemon until at LEAST the games that come AFTER sword and shield.

Meanwhile, Digimon struck gold with the Cyber Sleuth series and they decided to just include more digimon with each iteration, keeping an anime style with the 3d models and bringing them forward into the next game where they add more digimon and touch on the balancing.

If this keeps up, Digimon may make a resurgence like never before...

But, they keep changing which Digimon you can use in each game right? Some you get attached to in one game may not be in the next.

What do you do then? If I can't use a digimon I've loved since the start in the newer ones because it's not there, is that fair?

Actually no, Digimon cyber Sleuth had a bunch of digimon and every single one returned for the sequel, Hacker's memories, and they intend to make more in that vein and just add more digimon with each subsequent entry.

But, it'll be a matter of time till they're in pokemon's shoes.

What'll they do then?

Pokemon's "reasoning" for not including pokemon for balancing purposes doesn't hold water since there was a mechanic in place to exclude transferred pokemon from tournaments.

Someone also did a comparison and found the pikachu model in sword/shield is exactly the same as the one in x/y, meaning they are still able to transfer assets and still did so.

What I find more likely than their excuses is that the development of pokemon lets go ate up time and resources and when it came time for sword and shield, they were under staffed and the development dragged. It is also likely the framework of pokemon home and sword/shield is so stiff that updates are not easy to do that involve including animations and models, hence the problems.

I factor it under rushed development.

As for Digimon, they actually have a rather small pool of key digimon they keep in rotation regardless of the games, it's that each game gives the option to add more obscure cult status digimon or ones associated with a current show or movie. Basically, they are safe because they only ever need to ensure about 15 digimon are in any specific game.

I really like the idea of not having all the 'mons. For me it's a really good thing: it forces you to change your usual team, to discover more the new pokemons. To rethink how to play!

And seriously, 900+ pokemon in one game is getting ridiculous, the powerful pokemons are flooded by the ones of all the others gens. (My favorite pokemon games are the 2nd gen... 250 mon are good (and 2 regions <3)) Just, with all the gens, I guess a dex with 350-400 entries is enought.

The last games really casualised the licence (in ROSA, latios/latias is litteraly offered at the middle of the game?!!! >=( and USUL is one of the worst since you can only to go in the red dot to keep goin' in your adventure AND explorate! If you don't progress in the game, there is so many area you can't reach!!! And fucking dead fish eyes on the emotionless face of your character ><)

So I'm totally ok with their decision <3

People like you are how they're able to keep getting away with it, so great job and more power to ya.

*sarcasm* oh my God, you're getting something you enjoy at the expense of the opinions of people you don't know or give a sh*t about, send yourself to prison you rat bastard. *sarcasm*

Hell it's Pokemon, bitching about a system change that they'll ignore if old Pokemon games get remade on them or if they eventually allow for old mons to be ported over, sure isn't gonna stop the sale of the game. And the try hards who want to catch every Pokemon will buy it despite the bitching anyway just to catch the new Pokemon of the Gala region, so the opinions of roughly 60% of everyone crying and bitching is invalid anyway.

I feel the same way, the National Dex is superfluous at best and has been a lazy excuse for post game content for years. I've completed the PokeDex 100% and it really didn't feel that satisfying, as I only did it for the Shiny Charm. I've been playing Pokemon for two decades and that was the only time I've cared about the National Dex. I much rather a beefy regional dex and use every new 'mon I can and populate my boxes with Pokemon I care about instead of packing it with ones that'll rot there for the sake of a bloated, glorified collect-a-thon.

Is it a bummer that I won't be able to import certain Pokemon, especially for when I do monotypes and theme team playthroughs? Sure. But again, that's superfluous. Gamefreak have poured in a lot of work into Sword and Shield and I'm not going to ignore that over something that's petty at best and pointless at worst. Besides, I have a hunch that between SwSh, the inevitable Diamond and Pearl remakes and the third installment that we'll probably get (which almost always adds more to the Regional Dex anyway) we'll probably get at least 70% of the total National Dex (most of the cuts being legendaries, starters and the event/mythical Pokemon) anyway so this literally is a non-issue.

Besides, Gamefreak has stated that this was something that was going to happen eventually, so if it wasn't going to happen now, it would happen 3 years from now, so the salty people might as well suck it up because this is the new norm. And that doesn't have to be as bad as they're making it out to be. Go make new Pokemon friends and just enjoy what Game Freak does right in this new installment instead of throwing it all away over one flaw.

I've been disappointed to find out neither Floatzel or Dewott are being featured, because they're 2 of my top 3 favourite Pokemon out there. That to me has been the biggest blow. Knowing there could be a lot of Pokemon I like being left out is also disheartening when it was suggested "everyone's coming to the game." I don't really care as much about Z-Moves or Mega forms because I barely used those features to begin with (they just felt tacked on as gimmicks and usually didn't have much practical use for how I played the games) so I don't mind that being scrapped.

I might still consider getting Sword, the game itself still looks really good and they're apparently adding tons of new Pokemon, so I'd still like to see what it's got to offer. I just hope they'll reconsider the change and slowly adapt old Pokemon into it over time.

Wait, we *know* Floatzel and Dewott aren't in it? I didn't think they'd released a list yet. Where can I find it? :o

I've got no idea officially, it's just something people kept telling me when I was trying to be hopeful of seeing them both featured. So I assume it's likely they aren't being brought in due to other Water types or something. My other friend said the same for Treecko's line not getting included. I do hope it's not true but I suppose they have their reasons.

Same, as disappointing as this news is I will still have hope there will be some form of fix to this rather unfortunate state of affairs regarding S/S development.

Also I'm too deep into team Scorbunny to want to withdraw my support at this point. Also the memes are pretty dank

I only use pokebank to store my pokemon to start a new game.

Should probably organize them by gen and team comp.

I never really use all my ORAS and XY mons in Ultra Moon either. Mostly used them for breeding Alola mons.

I should breed a few more just in case some of them aren't in the Galar Dex.

See, now im wondering if, say, vulpix is in the game, can you transfer alolan vulpix?

What about holding out for Pokemon "Gun" or "Ultra Sword 2 / Ultra Shield 2"?

I doubt they'll be called THAT but...

As of right now, the non Galar mons are kind of warming the bench till they get called up for the next game.

...also... ...was that meant to be a joke?

Yes, it was meant to be a joke. Obviously I have no idea what the third iteration of this current gen's game will be or if it'll be two like how they did in Sun/Moon and Black/White. But there is a very good chance they'll do something like that again.

I thought about it and figured...

FRLG banned all non Gen1 pokes until far postgame

BW started you with an exclusive dex

Japanese Stadium 1 had 42 pokes out of 151 based on most used in tournaments.

Things happened, things will happen. I am a pokefan and will still get Sword probably.

It's good you do what you enjoy, no matter what other people day. Social media and overcritical people have way too much influence these days on people's decisions, especially in terms of making them feel bad for things where no reason is to feel bad about, for things they enjoy.
The Pokémon series became so huge and there are so many Pokémon and different types of improvements and ways to micro-manage your team, that it's maybe good they reduced things a bit. It can be too overwhelming for many players and it can influence the fun of the game in a negative way. Even if reduced it can still be a great game and I hope you will have tons of fun with it.