Really want to ask your opinions.
6 years ago
So I post on So Furry as well though I am far less active there than here. One thing I hate there is the voting system they have. It's actually horrid in my opinion. I really rather hate it. I uploaded the last five or six images that have been put up here there to dust it off and start using it again. No comments or faves but someone ran through and down vote all of them. That isn't a pleasant experience and it doesn't help me as it tells me nothing. I would hope that my pieces garner some attention just like anyone else, but I am not a fan of the fucking popularity contest there. So I have a couple of questions for you guys.
1: I have redesigned Dusk. Since the pictures posted are all quite different, the similar theme in them is my new color and design choices, so I am assuming that that might be what people are disliking? What do you think? Do you like his new design? Hate it? I would honestly like feedback. I may keep him as is as there is a deeply personal reason I shifted to more earth tones rather that greys and blacks, but I'd like to know if that's an issue for some people and what their thoughts are so I can consider that info.
So your opinions would mean a lot. Dusk's design has always been deeply personal to me and when I draw him it is with the intent to give him a soul. But I am sharing him hoping that other people can get something out of what I do as well and so feedback helps.
Thanks to anyone that replies, I will try to respond as quickly as I can and will consider anything you've got to say.
Cheers
1: I have redesigned Dusk. Since the pictures posted are all quite different, the similar theme in them is my new color and design choices, so I am assuming that that might be what people are disliking? What do you think? Do you like his new design? Hate it? I would honestly like feedback. I may keep him as is as there is a deeply personal reason I shifted to more earth tones rather that greys and blacks, but I'd like to know if that's an issue for some people and what their thoughts are so I can consider that info.
So your opinions would mean a lot. Dusk's design has always been deeply personal to me and when I draw him it is with the intent to give him a soul. But I am sharing him hoping that other people can get something out of what I do as well and so feedback helps.
Thanks to anyone that replies, I will try to respond as quickly as I can and will consider anything you've got to say.
Cheers
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Personally, I would guess that the downvoting was done by a troll. Ignore it if you can.
Truthfully I wouldn't give it much weight. Odds are it was just someone who just wants to feel better about themselves by putting someone else down for some reason, and they may not care one way or the other or even have a logical reason for their vote. I'd pay it no mind.
As for the advice on drawing other characters, you are totally right, but a lot of my other characters are human https://www.furaffinity.net/view/31250428/ https://www.furaffinity.net/view/25517717/ and don't get viewed so I post a lot less of those. I figure that their interactions in the story will show them more but that's where I hit the brick wall of perfecting my story. You've been watching me since 2015? So that's about 1/25th of the time that I've been trying to construct, then tear down, then reconstruct my story. I work hard, I take this very seriously, and even though I'm frustrated with it half the time, I love it LOL.
Thank you for the thoughts though, they are good feedback but they're a bit much. Really this journal was asking a question about my design choices, not my choices of perspective, subject, or other technique questions. Trust me when I say, everything you have just said I know very well. My first degree is in media arts. I draw though to make me happy first and foremost. Most artists are all about pushing their technique and impressing their watchers, but I think they miss the point often. This kind of art is a tool. A tool to tell and build stories. Sometimes the story is one picture, sometimes, it's a longer illustrated piece, but that's it to me.
Sorry for the long summer novel back but I hope that clarifies. Cheers and thanks for the advice all the same.
I would also argue that this community flocks to the smuttier side of art. Users here are more drawn to the risque renderings if your watching a user count. As a writer I find this a bit frustrating as well, but it comes with a grain of salt like always and I would recommend you stay with the closest and most important factor of validation you can utilize: How YOU feel about it! You have the added frustration of being your own artist, I have to commission all my own characters, so that may be a blessing in disguise, as I have to cement a design before I shell out the personal cost to have the character rendered. Where you would have the complexity of the dual pronged self-critique.
I feel that all your designs are solid and really have very little lacking.
To answer your original 1). The above comment was intended to remark on the user may have simply seen the six images of a design they didn't feel they wanted, (don't forget this is a fandom that utilizes fetishes as forms of style) and felt it necessary to voice their opinion without voiced critique. Or saw something deeper they didn't agree with. Or, were just an asshole. I took the time to write up the full and direct statement above if I felt you would receive it with professionalism. I just wanted to give you what I had experienced as a viewer of your content and what I felt was relevant feedback, it was a direct but I feel that there is seldom enough communication like that in this community.
To summarize this, how did you call it? This Long Summer Novel;
Your art and designs are good, the dood from the other site was probably just an asshat, the feedback above was just me expressing what I would like to see as a viewer. Follow your own heart, heck me dood, im just some anon on the interwebs. I like the monoblack dusk most, more robo-lions!
Number 2: I think intentions are getting harder and harder to gauge and they were kind of hard for me at first. Text isn't a great medium for nuanced discussion unless you are very careful to write with an open hand. As such, I am trying to carefully avoid traps and pitfalls with this convo as I do not want to insult you, but I am trying to indicate that I was a bit insulted myself.
So the final little piece that made me decide that it's time to be a bit more blunt though is the re-quote of my long summer novel line. I think you missed when I said it what I meant. I was making fun of myself. It sounds like you took it as a jab at you. That is a microcosm of my above 2 points.
So TL;DR version: This isn't necessary, If you want to comment on my individual pieces, that is why there is a comment section. But here it was inappropriate and I feel extremely uncomfortable because I hate confrontation and don't want to offend anyone, but this was inappropriate and a bit insulting. I am not slamming you because as I stated, everyone has different ideas on what is appropriate, but my first response back was a nice hint. Now I have to be a little more blunt. Please keep responses to journals on topic and drama free on my page. Critique is great in the right place but here it just feels a bit tactless to me.
Now, secondly, allow me to apologize as the original reply was not meant to be in any way insulting or demeaning. You are a great artist and I do enjoy your art populating my submission inbox.
Finally, I was trying to reciprocate the humor in the return of the jab. I can see how this could be taken as sarcasm, it was not intended as sarcasm.
TLDR; I'm sorry that you felt insulted by the original comment, it was meant to be interpreted as general feedback from me not an obligation or requirement. I take no offense from your replies and was in no way trying to provoke any. I was not attempting in away way to invoke drama and I can see how the tone of my original replies were hard to understand. Let me know if you would like to me remove the original post via here or journal and I will do so as soon as I see the response.