i know how you feel for some reason a lot of communtys like to pick fights from eatchother or kick the person out. just a few years ago i got banned and not welcomed in the mermaid/merfur community for a misunderstanding. but for some reason im still here in the furry fandom just for the art mostly. even though your not welcome in the Chakat community your always welcome in the taur community

I think it may just be me. I probably am overthinking and I just need a break. Thank you sincerely for your concern and advocacy.

Did someone tell you you don't belong? Or is that no one comments?

I have several people here that don't think Goldie should include my folly of a tail in the chakat universe. Ignore them and move on. (the only reason people notice me is because I've been tying chakat tails in knots since 2005 ... )

Just being here and trying to fit in, they find my presence annoying and noticing people at times are cold and distant. Like us chakats think we are some superior being to others like super stars. I may just need to take a break really. I suppose that was earlier on but I slowly and surely improved and made a good home stay here.

Huggggggggz sometimes my dear you just have to know when to make your own way. You're not going to please everybody that's one of the reasons why I do my own thing. The best thing you can do is just be yourself enjoy those that comment and try to strike up a conversation and a friendship with you.

Just because somebody says they are a chakat doesn't mean they are in real life... kick back and watch the world sonter by....

I see. Not everyone by heart is what they are. Thanks for your insight Femm. :)

You are welcome... sometimes it takes you years to to understand people are not always what they say they are. A bit of insight for you, how people do little things is a vision of how they do everything.

I know you want other people to treat you the way a chakat would treat you, after all that's what they say they are but in reality so much. so you just take people as they are and if you get along with them fine if you don't move on and enjoying you the people here in the fandom that you get along with. You well find things are much smoother for you.

I wish that others would be more less similar but then that would be dull over the test of time. I wish honestly I came in when I have personally developed myself and knew what I was really getting myself into in the first place rather then taking a deep dive and screwing things up.

My dear stop dwelling on the past, because you can't change it. The question is where do you go from here?

You know you're not going to please everybody all the time, so do yourself a favor and don't try to be. Just be yourself.

Apply what you've learned in the past to improve your interaction with others as you move forward, that's how you grow it's all about learning Who You Are.

Myself I tried to be as good a person as my dog thinks I am. Because that's all I can do.

I’ll try to get back to being myself more. More importantly, I need to forgive myself and try to love myself for who I am.

That's basically all you can do dear one

They're just jealous that chakittens can pitch and catch (at the same time!)

No gay/lez titles work on them as they have both sexes (and you know how little minds fixate on putting people in boxes that they can look down on.)

And while they were made tough to handle cleaning up a ravaged Earth, they've been surpassed by those made later.

Yes, some people don't like chakats, but guess what? You can't find any group/critter that some idiots will have come up with a reason to not like them.

Mind over matter. What they mind don't matter to my mind.

What makes you think that? I don't think of chakats as being any more special than any other species phenotype... but then, I don't treat them as Mary Sues in my stories. I think of them as the same as any other type of character.


I'm critical of the inclusion of the so-called "Talents", and the over-reliance on Star Trek for inspiration that Goldfur used and over-used as a springboard. While Star Trek is certainly amazing and certainly worth emulating, carbon-copy lifting all the technology and just inserting furries & never-seen ship designs isn't really good enough to make something notably unique. The setting lacks any of the qualities that make Star trek so good an entertaining: the thought-provoking stories, the diplomacy and danger, the sense of adventure and exploration, and especially the sense of wonder and exploring the unknown. Rather than Boldly Going Where No One Has Gone Before, it Lamely Stands Still To Focus On One Family.

The Talents in particular are a problematic cop-out and far too easily abused by the writers and the fans to create Mary-Sue characters that lose all credibility or believably. The fact that these abilities are so poorly handwaved by lame (bio)technobabble as leaky as a strainer just makes things even worse for anyone who remembers their high-school anatomy class. It's patented paranormal nonsense, and nothing can make it better at this point.

But I'll admit to originally getting caught up in the whole Talents thing -- the idea is kinda cool at first... but like most superpowers, they lose their luster when you start actually thinking about the implications and the opportunities for abuse, from within and from beyond that fourth wall. These days, my in-universe chakat persona lacks anything beyond the bare-minimum standard mild empathy the setting demands of all chakats, because non-superpowered characters are so much more interesting to write about. If I were to reboot the entire setting, I'd just leave that can of worms out of sci-fi.

The main character in my Nightfreckle story totally lacks any Talents, and shi is utterly immune to the effects of telepathy & empathy coming from others... but this is a logical consequence of what shi actually is and how shi was created (shi is created in the chakat image, to interact with & learn about them, by beings who knew nothing of the Talents beforehand and lacked the ability to detect said supernatural abilities). This has realistic consequences for hir, as shi feels like a void to those with such Talents, pushing that Uncanny Valley effect button pretty hard. But this lack of comfort also compels hir character to develop and grow, and shi faces no such barriers to forming relationships with ordinary non-chakatkin people.


When I use any of my chakat characters in my own non-C.U. settings, I strip them of Talents and make the idea as fantasy-based as it is IRL. In several cases, chakats themselves are fictional too, and the characters are just cyber-prosthetic bodies being used by furry fans so they can actually become their fursonas IRL. If these 'chakats' have anything vaguely resembling empathy or telepathy, it's because they're cyborgs and are simply using a communications app to share their feelings or send messages.


Granted, I'm something of an outlier in the genre and the furry community here, with limited involvement, but I'm not all that interested in . Maybe the Talents are super-popular, or maybe some others also feel that they are grossly overused and the stories would be better off without them. Maybe I'm not the only one who things the use of so much Star Trek tech, exported & used exactly like on the Trek setting, screams a lack of originality and imagination.

It's not that hard to be inspired by Star Trek without simply copying it. The speculative real-world Alcubierre metric tensor warp drive, which NASA is just beginning to investigate, could theoretically provide for realistic FTL ships. But hard science can still rule supreme without diminishing the Trek ideals: use real-world hyperspectral cameras rather than fantasy everything-sensors, use shuttles rather than magic teleporting, use VR rather than all-powerful holodecks, use slow 3D printers and automated fabricators rather than instant-replicators... and a healthy dose of Ghost-in-the-Shell style post-cyberpunk works a heck of a lot better than the thoroughly unrealistic LEGO-genetics tropes.

Sorry for the long-winded speech. I got a little carried away there.

Not a problem hon. I’m certain at some point later in time that I we eventually will be able to have such wonderful high technology, but those times may come either at the very end of our human lives or well past that. Again, it’s all a part of the human condition and we like to make things work in a unique fashion and have inspiration drawn into what we do and create.

While true, I must also challenge the preconceptions of the "human condition", and insist we look above & beyond such narrow limitations, to transcend and redefine our existence. Who and even what we are, and can be, is far less set in stone than most people believe. Imagination is limitless, and a lot of good ideas can become reality if we have the vision & persistence to see them through.

If you want realize your dreams, don't wait for someone else to dream them up for you, or make them a reality for you: bring them to life yourself.

*hugs you close* you know where to find me if you need me hon. Ill always help you if i can.

Thanks hon. I may just need to take a short break or see more therapeutic intervention.

I haven't been a part of the chakat community in a long time so I can't say, and I'll admit I'm not the most impartial when it comes to such things, but I have a couple of friends there still and I don't generally have a problem with it though I don't fave much taur art these days... Anyway, did something specific happen or is it a lot of little things?

I’d rather not being it up here but this happened a while ago. Let’s just say I inadvertently burned a bridge and thought at first I said something offensive but learned overtime I was getting annoying. Thank you for your insight and support.

*hugs*

I'd be very upset if you just flat out Quit the Fandom. I'd have one less friend to exchange "Chakat Chat" with.

Awww. I honestly was not really going to go but I sometimes vent stuff like this once in a while.

Trust me...I understand the feeling of Not belonging....I understand it all too well.

Thank you for your understanding. I am glad to know that we are not all alone.

The Chakat community isn't what it used to be....

I know, plus all the politics and hate wars coming and going. When was the last time it was a place that had true free love, happiness overall and nonexistent toxicity? I suppose the 2016 elections in my experience changed and ruined everything.

*hugs* It ruined a lot. But if you ever need to talk feel free to reach out