This is of course sad news, but your own well being comes much above the thought-form experiment and it's resulting art.

As a fan, you're in my thoughts!
Get well!

good to here from u my friend, and i am glad u are back

oh.

it's like Super mario land 2

Get well, and take care of yourself.

Take care. I'll be rooting for ya.

best wishes, sir. I hope you get better soon.

where the hell did that come from? Are you still allowed to drive a car?

I have problems mainly with PTDS (very long story ) and probably slight biplor-dissorders and anxiety-dissorders.

Spended 10 or 11 weeks in psychatry. With wrong medications. Medications can help. Some. But the chance is 25% for every invidual. Watch out what you get and take care about your self! I seen "healthy" people in a hospital ending with 13 different medications at once.

Non the less. Very nice that you keep up,l that gives other a good example . But i think, sadly in such situations It's impossible to say something though, that could magicaly help. I know about that very well.

Anyway, your doing great art. Regardless of that however! Get healthy, or try it ;)
It guess there are people here that count on ya!


*hugs*

*hugs* I believe voices can come from lots of different sources. I'm sure the schizophrenia voices come from a different place, and sound different than voices from spirits that come from outside you... you just have to learn to differentiate between them...

Jace hugs and hopes your Ok

ouch, hope you recover swiftly ^^

I'm sorry to hear about what happened. I do hope you can get better soon. I have a close friend with SZ and I can imagine how things can be. I certainly hope things get better for you.

Damn.. Well feel better soon, and hopefully we can get on yahoo and talk.. I also got a question for you, if your up to hearing it.

I really hope you will go through this quickly, and that you and your awesome dragoness will come back soon here.

Good luck ! }:)

I just hope the medication works for you. Schizophrenia can be a problem if auditory or visual hallucinations become attributed to real things, people, or spiritual experiences. But hopefully, medication will stop it.

(Yes, I am referring to the 'dragonesses' when I speak of auditory/visual hallucinations)

Owwie. That sucks a bit, hope you can get back to pulling that gorgeous dragoness into action.

Aww ;_; that's so sucky! You shouldn't be committed to the hospital because of something like this! There are books on this stuff! So the doctors must think that everyone who believes in thought forms and the like are crazy too.

You would be correct. They do. And they're right.

Still, it'd be fun to hallucinate things that are sexy, lol.

Actually, this is not correct. According to the DSM-IV-TR (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, Edition 4, Text Revision), spiritual beliefs are explicitly exempt from the vast majority of diagnoses; no diagnosis can be made on the basis of a spiritual belief in and of itself, and it occasionally warrants an exemption from being used as a criterion in other possible diagnoses.

Unfortunately for how simple many people would like psychology to be, every religion looks like schizophrenia, and most of them can also cause false positives for OCD. (Especially Islam and mandatory prayer five times a day.) Whether or not these are actually false positives are a matter of debate; I find the line between a "sane" spiritual belief and an "insane" delusion to be interesting on how difficult they can be to define.

Yes, Wicca is annoying to psychologists who now have an entire extra category of things they can't immediately throw into the "schizoid" bucket. Symptoms towards, yes, but not a spot diagnosis.

I've been acquainted with three people who claim or claimed psychic ability and at some time had to be put on antipsychotic (antischizophrenic, actually) medication. One of them continued to believe in their own abilities- the only one who ever showed anything I'd call so much as a statistical fluke. (Reliably enough, actually, his claims might have some weight. But you already know my biases.) Of the other two, one felt much better from the medication and promptly built a much more stable life for himself. The second got extremely upset that the medication was blocking his psychic abilities and now he couldn't sense spirits anymore.

I drew a slightly different conclusion from that, but it didn't seem prudent to press the matter too far...

One correction, love. I'm a diagnosed schizoid. It is NOT an abbreviation of schizophrenic. It refers to a generally unsociable (not antisocial, that's different again) personality. It refers to a couple of other things too. Schizoid and schizophrenic share the same first part because of the shared root 'split'. However, whereas schizophrenia represents a 'split within', schizoid represents a 'split from others'.

Circle,

This is sad news. I am very sorry about your misfortune and hope that you will regain your health. Do not heed what words the doctors have for you; if you had Schizophrenia, then many others out there who experienced Krotsgier and her doubles in their dreams wouldn't be able to experience anything at all. I believe in you, Krotsgier and her doubles very strongly and will continue to believe. You will pull out of this, have faith in yourself. Me and everyone here believe and support you.

Be strong.

~ Freaky

It's a willing mass delusion, that's all. Might not be schizophrenia, but it's simply the subconcious, at least in cases apart from CircleA61.

*nods*

That may be a good explination.

However, my belief in Circle's Thought Forms is very strong. After reading so many articles relating to Psychic prowess in people, what he is doing may be of his natural skill of Manifestation.

This is my opinion and I stick to it 100%.

~ Freaky

Belief, however, doesn't constitute proof.

That statement, of course, is a double-edged sword. Your contrary belief does not constitute proof either. When one side or the other holds up belief then reason becomes useless. In putting belief to the opposition prior even to the opposition claiming it for themselves, one conceeds that an argument cannot be won or lost, only abandoned entirely.

Many of the antischizophrenic drugs initially cause substantial sedation, an effect which diminishes as your body and mind adapts to them. You are likely to have a lot more energy in a few weeks. In the mean time, watch out for drowsyness while driving, especialy at night.

One of the biggest problems with psychoactive drugs of any kind is that the dose needs to be individualized, something which few doctors have the time for nowdays. After taking the full dose for a couple of months, try gradually reducing the dose to see what happens. Sometimes the beneficial effects are about as great at 3/4 or 2/3 or even 1/2 the dose, with fewer side effects such as sedation and flat emotions.

If obtrusive side effects continue, ask your doctors if you can try a different drug in the same class. The best drug for one person is not necessarily the best for another. They are NOT all the same, even though the insurance companies, Medicade, the FDA, ad nauseum would like you to believe so. For example, haloperidol is in the same drug class as risperidal, but is more likely to be excessively sedating, yet because the former is cheaper, guess what patients are likely to be started on. If you tell me what you are taking and at what dose how often, I may be able to suggest a better alternative.

I'm taking Abilify.

That is really good news! You apparently have good doctors; they are not giving you an obsolete cheapo to sedate you to the point where you won't have enough energy to complain about all the side effects of the obsolete cheapo.

Abilify is called an atypical antipsychotic, and is a modern medicine with much less sedation, emotional flattening, and risk of serious side effects. It also works in many cases where the older drugs don't. You are fortunate to be getting this one.

After you have been on it at the perscribed dose for a couple of months, I encourage you to try a slightly lower dose to see what happens. The most common problem with psychoactive drugs is overdosing. This is because of a quirk in the FDA approval process. The manufacturer of a drug can not legally reccommend that a dose be tried that is smaller than the dose used in studies for FDA approval. Because of the immense cost to get FDA approval, the drug's manufacturer dares not err by trying a dose toward the lower end of the real effective dose range, or the FDA will say that the drug is ineffective and refuse to approve it. Hence the average patient is usually given a higher dose than really necessary.

You can find out a lot more about Abilify at the National Library of Medicine. Just click on this link:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/

Type Abilify into the search box and hit return. You will get a list of the authors and titles of over 400 scientific papers on Abilify (also called aripiprazole). Click on the blue author line of a paper with an interesting title, and an enhanced abstract of that paper pops up. After a while, you will learn the medical lingo, and can learn a lot without a formal medical education.

If you have any questions, just send me a FA private note/message. I like you, and am glad that you apparently have doctors that care more about your wellbeing than the cost of the medicine!

I hope you get well soon, I just your hospital is smart to give you the CORRECT medicine for your condition, most docs just wanna give you medicine not related to whats wrong, like this one doc gave me big pills that has many side-effects and only made me feel even worse.

having schizophrenia doesnt nessasaraly mean your crazy and see or hear things that arent there. my friend has seen K and she never seen your pictures before my spirit friends have seen her so ya she is in the astral realm plus even if she is part of your amagination doesnt mean she isnt a rela "thoughtform" remember a thoughtform is created in the astral through intence thought

I agree. Very well put Gecko.

~ Freaky

*mrphs* I am sorry yu have hit such a rough time. My only advice is to not stop beliving in what you know is real.

schizophrenia?

What is that?

Ouch. Yes, let's hope it's just temporary. Get well soon.

good to have you back <hugs>

wow....im real sorry about your condition hope the medication helps and of course well be w8tin for ya.

I hope you get the whole situation resolved.. it's interesting that when one questions reality as society accepts it, you're insane, but when one finds ways to make that changed perception work in their reality, you're a genius.

I personally consider you the latter:)

Damn, I used to have schizophrenia once, It ruined my life. I hope you don't have it too bad, I spent most of my life in whole other lives, but let me tell you one thing, krotsgeir is real. I don't know her but she definatly exists.

Don't let peopel fool you into thinking the whole spirit world is made up though. I know its impossible to know whats real and what isn't but a lot of things are in fact real.

Try not to let it get to you if possible.

Well said, VERY well said.

~ Freaky

it is not schizophrenia, the doctors just think everyone should think the same. if somone is difernt they believe somthin is wrong wit them, cause god forbid its natural, yes i actually heard docs talkin bout this when they thought i had it cause i said i was seein thing they dont believe are there.

I'd be curious to know who your psychologists were- and when this was, because from what I learned it's completely unsupported to have that narrow a view of "normal" behavior. Although I did possibly have an unusually liberal Abnormal Psychology professor. *shrug*

i cn try to find out fo ya but i might not be abl to cause iv tryed to forget them, but i know iv got records round here somwhere, i prolly only kept them ta see how much they was screwin me over for. and theystarted on me bout 18 years ago and finaly quit last year. i woulda quit earlier but it was them stumps or posible death sentence. so i didnt hav a choice really.

Get well soon.

I hope you get well soon. We all miss you here :(

ouch that sounds tough :/ i wish u get better soon :3

Be careful about psychologists. I trust from the testimonies of others I have known that effective medicine is worthwhile. However, I know from personal experience that ineffective medicine is worse in many ways than no medicine at all. I say this from having gone through repeated misdiagnoses, with associated medicines suggested.

I know it's none of my business, but why were you sent to the hospital?

everyone here saying psychology is bad is a scientologist.


look, take your pills and get better. don't listen to these people. they just want to see more 3D dragon poon.