:O nice!

ya :O

Meh, I am quite skeptical in all that type of stuff.

Are you familiar with the magician and debunker James Randi? He has a challenge that will give $1,000,000 to anyone that can give scientific evidence of the paranormal. Many psychics/dowsers have tried but failed this test.

Although it might be fun to believe in ghosts and in the paranormal, when one looks at the evidence of them through a critical point of you, they are as likely to exist as goblins and dwarves. Okay, not dwarves. :P I prefer living my life believing in what is true and not what I want to be true. Pretty much every explanation for ghosts can be explained in a much more logical way using science and common sense instead of spirits from the past.

Anyways, take a look here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_.....rmal_Challenge

Vincer

everyone has their own opinions and the right to hold them and speak them out loud, but still do you have any proof that they aren't real?

I agree that one can believe what they want to believe and I'm glad that it's one of the fundamental rights that one has in a free country.

However, I can't prove that there aren't any fairies at the bottom of my garden. Naturally, one assumes that there aren't since it's an extraordinary claim.

The idea that spirits from dead people are living in haunted places is an extraordinary claim. An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary evidence, so it shouldn't be a skeptic's job to prove that ghosts do not exist, but a believer's to prove that they do exist. I haven't seen any hard evidence that they do exist and therefore, I'll stick with the simpler solution that science can explain them.

I don't want to come off as a prick or anything but I'm just explaining the reasoning behind my beliefs, that's all.

Vincer

I'd side with you if I wasn't on the scene where things have moved on their own, apparitions have appeared and I've heard disembodied voices :P Plus I help edit this stuff for tv, so I see it again and again and again and again...

Love bringing skeptics on the show. lol. They leave without that skepticism usually.

Though I must say, there is no real way to give any possible true h-core evidence that stuff exists. Perhaps everyone just coincidentally eels woozy and dizzy while the salt shaker levitates and throws itself across the room. Its possible. Even if this were a paranormal happening, people can easily take the easy route out by pointing out how well it was faked.

I personally have been touched and mildly entered, seen actual orbs that weren't dust or flies (You know after watching footage again and again what is what, orbs can actually physically glow off camera), I have heard the disembodied whispers and sounds and seen things thrown and other things that I can't explain. Just cuz I can't explain it though deosn't make it paranormal. Though I will say everything done on our show is completely legit. Thats what the live thing is for, to show how a paranormal investigation has its up and down moments.

In truth, science can't give much hard evidence as to anything because it's mostly based on theory, just well developed theory that we've come to have as the 'norm'. Scientists also will turn away anything spiritual without trying to explain it , too.

All in all, its just stuff you have to experience for yourself to believe it. A lot of it is unbelievable and we had something happen last night that was so very much coincidental that I probably won't talk to a lot of people about it just because people will think its bullshit (Even though we caught it on camera.)

And I never asked you to believe it, just watch the show or I'll cry. So you sir, made me cry :<

Fair enough. I don't really have a problem with people who just treat the paranormal as an interest and who actually do believe in it. I do have a problem with people pretending they believe and sell stuff so people will believe and gain a quick buck out of it.

see sir your theory of science always being core ct all the time is ever changing, because science its self is ever changing, back in the ancient times they believed that the earth was the center of the universe now we believe that the sun is the center of the universe. we still can't explain how our universe has been created we have the big bang theory, bubble theory, the black hole theory, and may other theories that try to explain how our own universe came to be. so there for science is flawed in its self. our many mathematical equations are flawed. It took years and years to determine how the moon was made, and we still don't know how it was. we had many scientific theories of how it was mad like, it's a part of the earth that fell off, it was created at the same time as the earth, and many other types of theories for that as well. and that's only the universe. science is never solid it changes as we become more tech savvy, and we find the flaws in the old theories, heck we can't even determine how atoms are made, and we're supposedly all made up of atoms, and we can't decide if humans came from evolution, threw god, or we where just here one day. We don't even know how the dinosaurs died.... so in my opinion science is flawed, yes it's a fun thing to play with, looking at amoebas under microscopes, and looking at the starts threw telescopes is great joy, so your Science is an extraordinary claim in its self

I will once again mention you can thing what you wanna thing, but still once again, CAN YOU PROVE TO ME THERE ARE NOT FARES USING SCIENCE -_- and if you use common sence that doesn't count because that fails the human minds 9 times out of 10 humans have not common sense if they did we would be much better off as a world.

Thank you
~Mo

There are fares, I've seen them and paid them. Cab fares are the worst.

On a more serious note: A theory being wrong doesn't mean that the methods for forming the theory were wrong. Scientific method provides an excellent framework for forming sound and reasonable beliefs. If there were a ghost, and it appeared once and was indeed real, it still may not be a reasonable thing to believe in - if it is not repeatable, if it is not effectual, and if it is not verifiable.

There is a lot of unexplained stuff, and it is likely that some things will always be unexplainable to any satisfaction (particularly strange happenings and the re-election of former president Bush Jr.). There's no sense in throwing away the only rational means of deciphering our universe just because it doesn't solve -everything-. Maybe we'll find something better to decipher our reality some day, but I don't think we'll find the answer in fairies and ghosts.

The scientific method has changed quite a bit since the ancient times. Back then, tools that were used to make precise observations or to accurately measure various things were not available but now they are. Also, before a scientific idea can be classified as fact, it is rigorously tested again and again. This was definitely not the case centuries ago.

At the moment, science can not surely explain in detail what started the universe but observations taken over time that compare the distance of stars to others stars shows that the distance is increasing. Hence, the the universe is expanding/accelerating. This is one of the observations that the Big Bang theory is based on. As technology progresses, this theory will become more specific as it will be able to explain more.

Mathematical equations are not flawed. Mathematics is the purest of sciences and its equations are not flawed.

Science is great. It has brought us to the Moon, it has made the average life expectancy in a developed country triple since the Roman era, made humans be able to communicate to one another from everywhere across the Earth. The way of the future is in science and not on illogical beliefs.

I can't prove that there's a fairy under my garden or that a dragon lives in my garage. Is it safe to *assume* (note : not prove!) that there aren't any though? If something has no proof attached to it like the last two examples, one shouldn't take for granted that it exists. I don't know anyone who would believe me if I tried to convince them of these examples, let alone 90% of them.

Vincer

if they can't prove it they don't believe in it, but when you where younger didn't you believe in santa clause and the easter bunny. where did all that go. if you can't see it you don't believe it, well I can't see god or any kind of religious figure, but doesn't mean you can't believe.

and if you feel that science and math are not flawed maybe you should watch the History Channel

The easter bunny is real and I accidentally got the tooth fairy arrested. And Santa clause was just cloned /

*Nodnods*

wait my dad has been cloned O.o

OMG I WANNA WATCH T.T

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