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Idea's and how you can't own a concept
5 years ago
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even the darkest of nights can be beautiful if you know where to look
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even the darkest of nights can be beautiful if you know where to look
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so i have had an interesting interaction recently where in i had seen and image of a type of golem that i found interesting in it's base concept. a golem that captures then milks the person it captures. i wanted to attempt my own design and said as much on the original upload. only to recieve a note telling me that i'm not allowed to make a golem character. because it is his character and design and unique. but all he did was remove the head and give it lips and a hollow inside where a person is milked.
maybe i am wrong but isn't golems part of hebrew lore? you can't claim ownership over something that has been in the public domain for many years. and no. i had no intentions of making a direct rip of the character. i just liked the concept and wanted to make my own take. not steal the character.
while you can claim rights over a character. claiming rights over a concept is just not possible. fair use, parody, and rehash's all use concepts that have been used before. but changes them to make them unique. i fail to see how making my own take on a capture and milking golem is infringing on his character at all.
it's not like golems haven't been used as a kinky medium before. as i can list several people who have made similar concepts before. the main one being endium and his early slave suits being basically wearable golems.
I feel that this person who i will not name. is being very rude and mean spirited. and a gate keeper. as such i have removed my watch my fav and my comment on his image and blocked him so that he can't get upset when i eventually use golem lore in future images i had planned before i saw his image. namely a brazen bull idea i have been working on in secret that uses golem lore.
maybe i am wrong but isn't golems part of hebrew lore? you can't claim ownership over something that has been in the public domain for many years. and no. i had no intentions of making a direct rip of the character. i just liked the concept and wanted to make my own take. not steal the character.
while you can claim rights over a character. claiming rights over a concept is just not possible. fair use, parody, and rehash's all use concepts that have been used before. but changes them to make them unique. i fail to see how making my own take on a capture and milking golem is infringing on his character at all.
it's not like golems haven't been used as a kinky medium before. as i can list several people who have made similar concepts before. the main one being endium and his early slave suits being basically wearable golems.
I feel that this person who i will not name. is being very rude and mean spirited. and a gate keeper. as such i have removed my watch my fav and my comment on his image and blocked him so that he can't get upset when i eventually use golem lore in future images i had planned before i saw his image. namely a brazen bull idea i have been working on in secret that uses golem lore.
Characters in their collective nature could also be copyrighted (i.e. me saying my character Lazur Darkhorn is my copyright), but not the individual components that comprise them (i.e. their personality (lustful, romantic), their color scheme (red, black, orange) or features (stripes, polka dots, etc)). If we were able to copyright concepts, then any character that's a stereotypical antagonist would be a lawsuit, or any character with red stripes and orange eyes is open to legal attacks and slander... That just doesn't work.
Makes me harken to an instance where someone wanted to literally take my character concept and fully replicate it, and only make a singular change to the aesthetic... I told them that just wouldn't work -- that they could utilize the concept of stripes, a hair streak, or the red/black color scheme, but they couldn't just take everything then make a mini change... Even tried to help them customize the concept and it didn't quite work out. *shrugs*
I think most would hesitate, certainly we can ask is it "right" to use someone else's concept, and again in this case as everyone has said, you realistically should be in the right, otherwise we all would basically have no freedom to do anything given how after 4000+ years many things are influenced or inspired by something somewhere.