So.. Adopts? Ychs? PATREON?! also hey,sup
5 years ago
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No.. I'm not doing adopts(mostly because if I make a design I like, ill probably keep it), but I was wondering how everyone feels about adopts and the types of "Adoptables" out there in this current year! There's a lot of shit I see that's seems kinda bad. Mostly referring to the types that are just weird recolors. But honestly over the years ive also seen a (much smaller but..) decent number of generally cool designs out there. some with restrictions that are mind-blowing to me granted.
Ych's on the other hand are an interesting concept that I honestly wanna try and get into. I wonder what the opinion on Ych's are these days! I mean sure I could look that up on some forums but, Forums are not my watchers and I can further research later.
Patreon, I'm gonna wanna hear some thoughts on Patreon and their equivalents! Mostly because it might be time to start one soon. Though I really don't know what good rewards I could even add. Besides voting polls cuz voting polls are awesome! But what else, I mean would anyone even wanna see my shitty sketches, Would they enter a Discord chat? Streaming? I mean how many would even wanna see the hi-res of my weird ass work!? I'd love to know some thoughts! but I'll probably touch on this subject in its own journal.
Needless to say thank you for commenting on this journal and giving your onions. The League vs Dota Journal was awesome, Loved to hear all the thoughts! Unlike that one one I will be making an "Attempt" to respond to this one more!
Ych's on the other hand are an interesting concept that I honestly wanna try and get into. I wonder what the opinion on Ych's are these days! I mean sure I could look that up on some forums but, Forums are not my watchers and I can further research later.
Patreon, I'm gonna wanna hear some thoughts on Patreon and their equivalents! Mostly because it might be time to start one soon. Though I really don't know what good rewards I could even add. Besides voting polls cuz voting polls are awesome! But what else, I mean would anyone even wanna see my shitty sketches, Would they enter a Discord chat? Streaming? I mean how many would even wanna see the hi-res of my weird ass work!? I'd love to know some thoughts! but I'll probably touch on this subject in its own journal.
Needless to say thank you for commenting on this journal and giving your onions. The League vs Dota Journal was awesome, Loved to hear all the thoughts! Unlike that one one I will be making an "Attempt" to respond to this one more!
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Though if I may, What is running a Patreon like for you? Is it incredibly difficult compared to just taking commissions? Is it more about just some extra funds and maybe building a community? I think your thoughts on Patreon would be really welcomed and highly valued if you were willing to give them blitz! Ah, Definitely not a requirement though!
The same goes for Patreon. Your art style is absolutely phenomenal, but you not posting WIPs kinda makes you a black box to most people. These two things could make timelapses posted to Patreon a tantalizing offer, just so people can get a peek into the world of how you make such amazing pieces.
I personally love when artists offer art rewards for the higher tiers (but that's just me being greedy for more art.) Also, many artists find those to be the hardest thing to pull off and sometimes not worth the effort. I would 100% buy into the highest tier if you did that though. 👀
Yeah.. Yeah when you put that way.. it kinda seems criminal that I don't do them at least sometimes. Well I also normally charge a hundred since I don't want to make someone spend too much.. though. Considering I might be turning Relevancy into a full time job. You absolutely have a point.
So you really think people wanna see my WIP's? I know sounds lame of me but I'm just honestly baffled since how I do things often changes rather drastically. The only thing that doesn't is that its quickish and done in maybe 3 layers max. WIP's and other things would probably be on offer even for the lowest tiers of course. I agree in that seems like a staple to offer and if someone doesnt then.. like wtf. I know its what I look for in other artists X'D
Hmm depends on an art tier like that, in the end I feel it has to be a "deal" since its supposedly monthly. but since someone can walk out on it whenever I feel its difficult to coordinate! I think in the end I can only let someone I trust take a slot like that! Assuming I made one, its definitely on my mind a lot when I think "What to add to a Patreon". That and if I add a discord server, though in the end if someone is willing to support me I think sure as shit would want to speak to em in a chat haha. It is nice to know I would have your support Cherry!
For adopts, similarly I have very mixed feelings towards. Indeed, if something is already a good design, then may as well keep it, on the other hand if it isn't or if it's odd, then it can take a very long time to sell. The times I do see adopts do well are only when they are put as an AB, but in that case they rarely ever last longer than a day at most.
Overall I have a less than positive opinion on them. That said, if one was bent on doing it, then "egg adopts" are something that I've been a fan of more than anything else. They lack a preset design, so people are pretty much paying for whatever comes out. Sometimes with a few preset design options. But that would fall back into the "if I like it, I'll keep it for myself" dilemma haha.
For patreon, yeah, it's difficult to grow it. Not to mention getting people to join and stick around can also be even harder. Creating content for it is a whole different thing as well. Sketches tend to be a mixed bag, but getting stuff like alternate versions of existing art is never bad either. Paywalling it is the best way to go, but it also gathers a bunch of people getting mad at you for doing so.
Me personally? I like seeing sketches and the production work before the final piece, so definitely count me in if you plan to try patreon out. Always great to see early concept art. I would be really curious as to what you would do for adopts if you did so, as far as what direction you would take for it.
Definitely got a new watch :D