Wow that is a really really good point.

Awesome point Dunc. I can't tell you how many people I've watched and friended thinking they were this awesome artist when... all they did is commission a bunch of pieces from another artist. .

Admittedly, I am no artist, and on occassion I do commission a image or two, but when I post them I make sure I give full recognition of whom is in the image and who drew it so others can go to the artists site/page and comment, plus I also ask for permission of the artist if it's allright to post; I may have paid for it, but I didnt create it, so it's polite to ask

Or you can just tag it to your favourites!

I think they should allow you to specify the piece as a commission and list the user(s) who paid for it, and then your page can have a "commissions" section which lists stuff you bought. Or something... It just saves a TONNE of space.

I tend to buy several commissions myself. But i always put the artists information and if someone comments on mine such as "Nice!" or whatever, i tend to bitch them out and tell them to go to the actual artists to comment.

It would be really good if they had a cloud system of sorts that allowed other users to add tags, and to identify artists who were involved in works - functionality that could only be used by people who had a decent standing as a reputable user.

Good point, Duncan. But what happens when you do shared art with your mate, like MuscleWolf and I do? The drawing may be "by him," but the coloring is "by me."

When ever I upload a commisioned piece of artwork. I always post a link in the description to either the same picture on the artist's gallary, or just to the artist's FA page.

I upload images I commision to my FA gallary because I like having them all in one place, I don't want to have to constently search all over FA and the tones of artists gallarys I like to find them again when ever I want to show them to somebody. Does that make me lazy? well maybe.

But I always give credit to the awsome artists who draw the commisions, and I only upload with their permission. So I feel justified in defending my commsioned artworks in gallary position.

I 100% support your position! People should only submit work done by themselves. I respect you for doing that!

well if i wanna see any art by you i go to yer site. >~>

This is exactly why I've never uploaded anything I've commissioned.

However there will be an exception to that soon. There's a story I'm writing, and there's going to be an image I commission to go along with that story. I'm going to upload it as a thumbnail to that story, and as it's own submission with all due credit to the artist. But when people ask questions about the piece, like who the characters are, and why certain aspects of the characters are different than what I have written in the story, I need to be able to answer that. So I need the comments on my page, not the other artist's page.

Fair point. It does get a bit depressing when I see a fur with a wealth of pictures but none his own, it just makes me think they've got all these ideas and they lack either drive or talent, sorta upsetting.

But it is very easy to solve, simply provide a link or icon, problem solved, why is that so hard?

Lol...I admit I'm guilty of being an art whore, but atleast I post art done -for- me to a separate account and link back to the original (if there is an original posted) requesting that favs/comments be directed to them (usually written in bold at the top of the submission), along with adding "by -insert artist here-" in the title. xD It actually works pretty well.

No, no. That's too simple. It'd -never- work. (Also, too much normalization in the database is bad for Sunday night traffic.)

Another more FA-y (kludgy) fix would be to allow the embedding of artist's screen names in the "Title" field of submissions.

EG]
"Cheesecake fox by :whateverthatcodeisartfulreggie:" would yield in html something like -> "(a href='http://..../123453')Cheesecake fox by(/a) (a href='http://www.furaffinity.net/user/art.....eggie')artfulreggie(/a)"

That way there's no need to alter the DB, just whatever controller checks and sanitizes input for the title field. It's an awful hack, but it's something that could be implemented, tested, and deployed in a couple of hours.

:3

Couldn't agree more there chief. I too dislike it when people fill up galleries full of art they themselves didn't draw, and soak up praise for the effort of somebody else. :p

That is a great idea!

You and I have the same philosophy about this. I couldn't have explained it any better myself.

agreed c:

Wait so someone pays for art and you think it's not right for them to post it on their page? That's a bit silly on your part, someone has spent money on a piece of art and they should have the right to post it...it's kind of the only reason to even get art. That being said people do need to give credit to who does the art if they don't do it themselves. Which most people I know seem to do anyway.

If I pay for a piece of work for myself, yes I will post it to my own account because I dont draw. I write, I want people to be able to come to my account and see who I am.

I do always make an effort to clearly specify, in title and description, who the artist for a piece was--but I still get people who don't read enough, and don't seem to notice that my 'art style' changes wildly from one week to another.

Although your idea isn't a bad one, I feel it's too limited in the problem it addresses. Yes, it helps with artists who commission stuff, but to me it seems that 95% of active users either draw or commission, so for the most part it just serves to reinforce that art whores didn't draw the stuff they have.

My solution is a more broadly applicable one. When submitting a piece, or after submitting one, you're able to formally tag users for their roles in it. There could be passive tags, where you just say "inspired by ____" and it lists that, and then there could be active tags, where it might say "line art by _____" and give them full edit privilges, cause the piece to show up in their gallery, and give them notifications when people comment on it. Essentially it would act as if the piece was submitted individually by each of the actively tagged users, except it would only have one submitted image, it would only show up once in somebody's new submission box, and all the comments/favorites would be consolidated on a single page.

This addresses a lot of issues. When somebody commissions a piece and posts it, or if an artist posts a commissioned piece, or if somebody did the line art and another did coloring, or if somebody's character was featured in a gift, etc etc, it nicely links together what could possibly be multiple submissions while formally laying out who had what part in it. It also saves effort: why have 4 people submit a picture involving 3 characters (the owners, and the artist) when just one person can do it with the slightest increase in effort? I think it's a good fix in general.

Various questions arise with it, though. What if somebody is tagged maliciously or just doesn't want a piece in their gallery? Well, they'd have to approve all pieces they're tagged in before they'd show up in their own gallery, and could subsequently remove them from their gallery by using a "hide" checkbox. If and only if everyone who submits the piece hides it will a set of "delete" checkboxes appear, and if everyone clicks those then the piece will truly be removed. Stuff like that

And of course there are issues it introduces. What if the various people involved want to say different things about the piece, without the description section becoming some half-page monster? They could have a tabbed "such and such's description" section I suppose, but it'd mostly be overlooked. Also, I'm not going to comment on a piece the same way for an artist and a commissioner. I might say "Awesome work, very hot, I love the attention to detail in the background" to the artist, and "(long indecent comment)" to one of the involved characters. Different people might handle thumbnails differently too, I use a particular style for all of mine, and artists might not be down with that (nor I with their style). Overall though, I think the idea is on the right track...

It does rather annoy me when I see the artwork posted by the actual artist and then I see the same one posted by the commissioner. It really makes no sense

You are so right  duncan. I myself specialize in photography. In accordance with what you said, I say that the poster should also make it a point to say who the subject of their artwork really belongs to. Like for example, if they photographed a car, then they should say who the car belongs to. That way they don't destract from the fact that that car isn't their car at all.

But yeah, you do a HUGE point to make. It's amazing that FA doesn't enforce that.

I actually got an email--just this morning, in fact--from an artist, asking me why I didn't post my commissions to my gallery (he himself had recently done a commission for me).

My response was that, well, my gallery is for my work, i.e., mostly my writing-related stuff and whatnot.



Though hey, people seem to find my account and watch me thanks to other people posting pictures of me, and if that accidentally gives more exposure to my writing work, I'm not going to complain.

That's one of the reasons I wrote this. A recent artist told me to go ahead and post something to my account and I had to tell him, "Post it to yours so I can favorite it and so you can get all the comments!" That usually works out pretty well. ;)

I always say who drew something for me when i upload it. Hell my profile says i commission art. since my old webspace went up in smoke. Most people i find are still too lazy to READ the comment or description to find out i am not the one who drew an image.

I second this motion. :3

First it was terrorism, now it's whoreism! =P
I never featured other people's artworks before... but that's just because I'm selfish! =3

Good point! Agreed! It also screws up the validity of the favorites counter.

I only post a picture I commissioned if the artist refuses to upload it him/herself but lets me share it with others. Otherwise, I prefer to let the artist post it on his/her account and link to it.

I don't think I've ever seen an 'art whore' who doesn't give credit to whoever drew them.
I have great respect for those people. They provide a portion of inspiration an even larger portion of financial gain.
I've drawn many fursonas and half of the time for free. I wished that all of them post it into their own galleries.

The issue of wanting to know what people say about your work is kind of just... Paranoia.

I completely agree.

And.... you could just fave all the " You " art and folks could just look at it there.

If they wanted to, sure! But hard to think of a reason why people would wanna pull up a whole screen full of giant green kangaroos!

Green is the new.... umm... green.

Slam dunc! ;3

I always give proper credit to any artists if I post their work. I'd rather they get the full credit and have it on their page, but sometimes that's not always possible or they'd rather me post it, so when that happens, I make sure that they get full and complete credit along with referral links and a plug in my journal to advertise their services if it's a commission work.

I really wish there was a better method to do it though in the submissions, that has always been a big annoyance for me.

*applauds* I couldn't agree more