I miss the days when the "left" maintained a healthy distrust of corporations, and the establishment as a whole.

Now everyone wants to drown in the swamp.

I am not sure what you are getting at with "the left" in the case, because this is one of those things where if there was better government over sight and better communication of accurate scientific information, we likely would not be having this issue. It is the "the right" who are paranoid about the government having to much control when in reality having lawful regulations on how much companies can charge for essential medical care in general would be a public benefit to everyone. So I am happy that there has been such a massive push to make the COVID-19 vaccine available to EVERYONE at NO COST, regardless of insurance status. If the US gov't is willing to do that, then that means this vaccine is more important than people's feelings.

Get the vaccine otherwise eat a gallon of cyanide so you dont endanger the rest of us (not aimed at the op but at the vaccine deniers) oh nos i offended someone.... Well stop being deplorables and you wont be insulted.

I just want some more information gathering, honestly. The Covid-19 vaccine has no long-term research conducted on it so leaves a lot of gaps, for me, that need to be filled before I would consider taking it. I definitely don't consider myself an anti-vaxx person. I have nothing against most vaccines. I just don't want to be the statistic in 10 years where the commercial comes on the TV "If you or a loved one suffered XYZ due to the J&J Vaccine of 2021 you ... are not entitled to any compensation because the government gave all companies releasing vaccines cart blanch and immunity ... sucks to be you!"

Ultimately, it matters very little if I decide to take the Covid-19 vaccine or not. Those that are concerned, should take it. If it provides you comfort and relief, great. If I die, cool. Don't know why that should bother you. If your vaccinated, theoretically you are immune, so it shouldn't bother you that I'm not.

So here is the thing, the mRNA vaccines are really easy to update and make boosters for. They are also so safe that immunocompromised patients can receive it! Let me repeat that Immunocompromised patients can get it, this is practically never heard of when it comes to other standard vaccines. And it is because it took us decades of research to develop mRNA vaccines. The general public would not have this knowledge because this vaccine type has been a dream of epidemiologists for YEARS, but because RNA and DNA are super finicky and your body has so many defense mechanisms to keep unwanted strands of DNA and RNA floating around that getting around those defenses has been difficult. I can either link you to a bunch of videos on it, or you can take me at my word when I say, that the technology for mRNA vaccines just happened to be at the tail end of development when this pandemic started and because of global efforts in development and research is the only reason we got a vaccine so quickly. No steps in the approval process were skipped and the only reason other vaccines took so long to get approved is the lack of collective effort and the lack of immediate need.

As for the J&J you are twice as likely to be struck by lightning in the next year than you are to see the blot clot issue that is being reported in all of 6 patients last I counted a few days ago. Also there is no data on if it is just correlation or causation, and the way the media has handled this is exactly what this video is commenting on, because scientific reporting is severely lacking in reporting things fully factually and creating this false balance scenario.

Vaccine do not just protect you, they protect those around you. So yes people should care if other people are getting the vaccine. It is sad that there are people who are getting it in their community but their community is severely against getting it. Other people believe the vaccine is killing people and it simply isn't there is no data to support it. And yet they are asking scientists for the burden of proof without being able to adequately produce reliable proof of their claims.

So I will say this, yes, it does bother me that people are not willing to get it, I think it should be strictly mandatory, and cruise liners and other event organizers are making it proof of vaccination mandatory, because while nothing is ever fully effective, we saw what can happen without and the cruise industry is the perfect example of it. So even if you do have someone who becomes a carrier, having everyone on board be vaccinated as a requirement would limit the spread and maybe even stop it cold before it could spread. Heard immunity only works if you have enough people vaccinated. It is the reason there has been resurgences of polio and measles as more people refuse to get vaccinated against diseases we know vaccines work on.

There is a potential chance that this virus will not go away and it will become a seasonal thing, but that will only happen if people leave avenues for it to escape the vaccines we have right now. Getting as many people vaccinated as fast as possible is our best course of action for stopping this very dangerous virus outright.

I just used J&J as a placeholder, I didn't mean to imply that 6 people of the 600,000+ that have taken it had severe complications and now I think the vaccine is cursed. If you have to get this vaccine every year, like a flu shot, it is only a stop gap measure, though. I don't get the flu shot either. From personal experience it doesn't seem to go well in my family. If this was like the measles vaccine or the hepatitis vaccine or even a tetanus shot, I'd be much more inclined to jump in with both feet. From what I've read and heard, the vaccine is only good for up to 3 months, at most. I haven't delved into it as much in the last 2 months though, so perhaps that has changed?

Guaranteed, there will be people that do not get vaccinated. There are people that don't vaccinate against the normal stuff that is supposedly required to go to public school, now, so I would just assume that it will not be going away.

So we do not know how long the vaccine is good for, but we do know that people who were infected with the virus had antibodies that didn't last that long, but we have done antibody tests at my pharmacy on people who have had it that weren't vaccinated yet still have antibodies 6-7 months later, but the reading was very faint, but it is not a diagnostic test and it is only a yes/no and not a test to determine how many. Also one of my coworkers had it about a year ago and had a much stronger immune response than those of who hadn't which is to be expected if you still have some level of antibody floating around. So we may find that you do retain antibodies, just in very low numbers.

And this is nothing like the flu, it is much worse, which it is becoming less deadly, it is also becoming more infectious in some areas which is even worse, because then it will lead to significantly more harm than the flu, so no this virus is more like measles than it is like the flu, and it is way more infectious at the moment. The only reason measles is so uncommon is because we have had years to vaccinate people and it is something that you can get even as a child and it is done to almost everyone on a very consistent basis. So of course with a nearly 100% vaccination rate, it is not going to have anywhere to spread to. And actually it is people refusing to get the vaccine that has led to outbreaks in small pocketed communities. And Polio of all things has started popping up in pockets from anti-vaxxers, so even with a small decrease in vaccination rate you are seeing outbreaks.

So thankfully with a 90% effectiveness in the vaccine means that we need about 60-65% vaccination rate to potential get rid of it, but if it remains below that number it could lead to more deaths, but even more people with permanent damage to their lungs, heart, brain, etc.

Viruses will become less fatal in order to survive, but far more infectious to the same goal. Small Pox for a long time was unfortunately both, and it took a massive vaccination campaign to get rid of it, I can only hope that this virus does not become a second small pox.

I think you misunderstood what I typed a little x3 The vaccine is like the flu vaccine, as in you will have to get it yearly. Where as the vaccines for things like the measles are a one and done sort of deal, Tetanus you only have to get once every 10 years or so. I am very much aware that the viruses are not the same. I think you've just become used to people constantly comparing the flu with Covid-19, which I wasn't trying to do.

I did want to add that I appreciate your point of view and have learned a few things that I hadn't previously been aware of as well, so thanks!

Even if it becomes a yearly vaccine, you should still treat it as if it is protecting against the measles, tetanus, and other far more severe viruses. I also think that you should get the yearly flu vaccine even if you feel terrible afterwards because that is just your immune system doing what it is meant to do, fight the infection. In fact most of your symptoms to a pathogen is your own body, not the pathogen itself. There are exceptions like parasites and a good range of bacteria.

I highly highly highly recommend sitting down and watching SciShow's episodes on the pandemic and another Youtuber by the name of DoctorMike who actually had an interview with an epidemiologist basically bust some myths about this virus and the vaccine.

So much of people's hesitancy is a result of bad communication from news organizations, politicians, and the like. And the fact I think this vaccine should be mandatory with exceptions made based on people's individual PCP's recommendations for or against it, should tell what a miracle both the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines are. It is huge step forward in vaccine technology and while it does cause a much stronger reaction in most people, some have had fewer symptoms than a flu shot and people like me have had worse side effects, especially on the second dose of the Moderna.

I am far and away happy that I got the Moderna one, and I have had patients whose PCP has recommended the Moderna one because of it tendency to create a stronger immune response, but the media has given equal value to soccer mom's which should not be given the same level of authority as PhD's who have worked on this vaccine and have the specific knowledge that most soccer mom's lack.

But please all I ask is people get and read reliable information and make an INFORMED decision on it.

I'm half-vaccinated and once I got my first dose, I turned out fine. Didn't feel any of the side effects that they warned me about. I'm used to getting vaccinated myself, since I'm already getting testosterone shots bi-weekly. And don't believe any of that utter blasphemy these anti-vaxxers are trying to push, this conspiracy theory proven false, about vaccines causing autism, which some deep lurking trolls from 4chan decided to spread around to piss off the SJWs who are just as infuriating, is just a made-up story who is written by some guy who's in jail for fraud right now in case you didn't know already.

Which was covered in the video.