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I'm really concerned about my future TLK pics now...
4 years ago
To get to the point. I'm concerned I might not be able to make LK pics again.
To start with, I recently did a trade with someone (who I won't name) where I included their character in a pic. And after a while, said person decided that they didn't want their character to exist anymore and they asked if I could change the pic so it doesn't look like their character anymore and remove any links to their account in the description. I did what they asked and changed the submission so their character wasn't a part of it anymore.
However, there was just one last little bit of text saying their original character's name on the submission that they wanted gone in the beginning of September. I said I was going to change it. But then for the last week and a half, I've been unexpectedly busy with a lot of real-life stuff that I didn't realise was happening beforehand (such as several family get-togethers, two cinema trips, days out. etc.). So I haven't been able to work on anything (not even some other trades I should really be working). And because of this, I wasn't able to remove the one bit of text they wanted gone. Now, we had been messaging on Twitter before hand, and when I look back now, during this last week they did message me twice about it. However, I've been having this glitch where I don't get any notifications or icons for when I get messages, so I didn't see them.
So instead of trying to contact me through FA notes (where I'd likely see it easier as I was still briefly checking FA when I had spare time), they decided to the next logical thing.
Copyright claiming the pic and having it removed from FA...
I woke up this morning to find a message from FA stating this (with some bits removed):
"Your content has been removed because the copyright holder (REMOVED THE NAME) asked for us to take it down. The copyright holder is usually the person who created the content though may be someone who contractually had the copyright transferred to them or owns the intellectual property which may have been used without permission.
You have NOT been penalized for this removal; however, you may not re-upload this content without the copyright holder’s permission. If permission is given in the future, please keep a copy for your records."
Whilst I am really annoyed that they just straight up got the pic deleted without at least asking me again. I'm even more concerned about what this means for any other future LK pics I make.
As I fear that even if I don't include their character again (trust me, I never will), that FA may think that anything LK I do is using 'their content without their permission'. So I'm really worried about what this could mean for anything LK I do on this account now.
It's also really put a damper on me wanting to do trades with people I don't know anymore, as now I'm concerned that something like this will happen again.
Am I just overthinking it, and my future LK will be fine? Or am I being rightfully concerned?
Sorry if this has been a really negative journal, I'm just both angry and worried about what might happen to this account.
To start with, I recently did a trade with someone (who I won't name) where I included their character in a pic. And after a while, said person decided that they didn't want their character to exist anymore and they asked if I could change the pic so it doesn't look like their character anymore and remove any links to their account in the description. I did what they asked and changed the submission so their character wasn't a part of it anymore.
However, there was just one last little bit of text saying their original character's name on the submission that they wanted gone in the beginning of September. I said I was going to change it. But then for the last week and a half, I've been unexpectedly busy with a lot of real-life stuff that I didn't realise was happening beforehand (such as several family get-togethers, two cinema trips, days out. etc.). So I haven't been able to work on anything (not even some other trades I should really be working). And because of this, I wasn't able to remove the one bit of text they wanted gone. Now, we had been messaging on Twitter before hand, and when I look back now, during this last week they did message me twice about it. However, I've been having this glitch where I don't get any notifications or icons for when I get messages, so I didn't see them.
So instead of trying to contact me through FA notes (where I'd likely see it easier as I was still briefly checking FA when I had spare time), they decided to the next logical thing.
Copyright claiming the pic and having it removed from FA...
I woke up this morning to find a message from FA stating this (with some bits removed):
"Your content has been removed because the copyright holder (REMOVED THE NAME) asked for us to take it down. The copyright holder is usually the person who created the content though may be someone who contractually had the copyright transferred to them or owns the intellectual property which may have been used without permission.
You have NOT been penalized for this removal; however, you may not re-upload this content without the copyright holder’s permission. If permission is given in the future, please keep a copy for your records."
Whilst I am really annoyed that they just straight up got the pic deleted without at least asking me again. I'm even more concerned about what this means for any other future LK pics I make.
As I fear that even if I don't include their character again (trust me, I never will), that FA may think that anything LK I do is using 'their content without their permission'. So I'm really worried about what this could mean for anything LK I do on this account now.
It's also really put a damper on me wanting to do trades with people I don't know anymore, as now I'm concerned that something like this will happen again.
Am I just overthinking it, and my future LK will be fine? Or am I being rightfully concerned?
Sorry if this has been a really negative journal, I'm just both angry and worried about what might happen to this account.
But yeah, that's probably the best way to make sure something like that doesn't happen again.
Oh yeah, I've been starting to take a liking to Gorilla preds lately, especially like Winston ;)
Oooo, that would be great!!! : D
What I would do is write a follow-up to FA staff. Despite what people sometimes say, I think they are quite reasonable to deal with and are also just Furries enjoying their hobby. To be on the safe side, I would open a ticket / respond to the previous one, explain the situation and tell them you would like to reupload the picture as it is your creation and the issue with his character has been resolved. Not sure if it’s worth the additional hassle but you might also want to tell the person who reported it that this was clearly not okay and this is straight-up copyright abuse and illegal because this is not how this whole thing is supposed to work. If you want additional security, add a clause to your ToS, even if it’s just a free raffle / trade that people consent to their character being used and displayed in your gallery(/ies) and that they do not have the right to revoke it afterward / it is solely at your discretion.
tl:dr: No issues with Disney or TLK content here, you’re fine. Explain to staff what happened and reupload the edited picture. The other person abused the copyright system and FA staff probably didn’t get the whole picture. You cannot be forced to change anything or to take it down just because someone suddenly changes their mind about usage rights. Update your ToS if necessary.