Where to find me, just in case
Posted a year agoSo, it seems FA is now mass banning ABDLs/babyfurs, so I have two things to say:
1- If I get hit for whatever reason, you can find me on Bluesky (I use most often), Twitter (use for only personal art/commission announcements), and I just created a new Telegram channel for art and commission announcements a few minutes ago. I may look into a Discord server, as well. Links at the end of this Journal.
2- FA mods, I have never created, uploaded, shared, nor enjoyed sexually explicit content featuring minors, and neither have most other people in our little subcommunity. Targeting people who have nothing to do with CP only provides people actively producing/sharing that content with a smokescreen of confusion and uncertainty that they can then hide behind and avoid accountability.
I have it in my ToS that I will refuse any sexually suggestive or explicit art of minors, and will blacklist anyone who asks for it (and in my decade of doing commissions, I've never once had to use it). Diapers are not inherently sexual, certainly no more than regular underwear are. And I know I won't let myself feel shame anymore for liking babyish things that make me comfortable and keep me calm in stressful situations.
LINKS TO MY PLACES:
Bluesky: pandorasartbox.baby
Twitter: @ PandorasArtbox
Telegram: https://t.me/pandorasartbox
    1- If I get hit for whatever reason, you can find me on Bluesky (I use most often), Twitter (use for only personal art/commission announcements), and I just created a new Telegram channel for art and commission announcements a few minutes ago. I may look into a Discord server, as well. Links at the end of this Journal.
2- FA mods, I have never created, uploaded, shared, nor enjoyed sexually explicit content featuring minors, and neither have most other people in our little subcommunity. Targeting people who have nothing to do with CP only provides people actively producing/sharing that content with a smokescreen of confusion and uncertainty that they can then hide behind and avoid accountability.
I have it in my ToS that I will refuse any sexually suggestive or explicit art of minors, and will blacklist anyone who asks for it (and in my decade of doing commissions, I've never once had to use it). Diapers are not inherently sexual, certainly no more than regular underwear are. And I know I won't let myself feel shame anymore for liking babyish things that make me comfortable and keep me calm in stressful situations.
LINKS TO MY PLACES:
Bluesky: pandorasartbox.baby
Twitter: @ PandorasArtbox
Telegram: https://t.me/pandorasartbox
🌟Commissions are OPEN!🌟
Posted a year agoHi there! Rent is due! So you know what that means! Please let me draw for you for money ;w;
I'm taking commissions for Grayscales Sketches and Flat Color Drawings. And while this is covered in the *required to read* ToS, here are my prices:
Grayscale Sketch
-$75 per character
-No backgrounds available
A simple, but cleaned-up sketch with various shades of gray instead of color. Easier for my colorblind eyes to work on.
Flat Color Drawing
-$150 per character
---Or $100/ea for waist-up only
-Background: $Varies
---Solid color or simple pattern: $0
---Complex pattern: $10-$30
---Full scene: $50-$200 (depends on complexity)
To claim a slot:
-Read my Terms of Service.
-Fill out Commissions Form.
-Wait for an email from babypandoracommissions[at]gmail.com
The form will be open for submissions (at least) until I would be able to pay my bills.
    I'm taking commissions for Grayscales Sketches and Flat Color Drawings. And while this is covered in the *required to read* ToS, here are my prices:
Grayscale Sketch
-$75 per character
-No backgrounds available
A simple, but cleaned-up sketch with various shades of gray instead of color. Easier for my colorblind eyes to work on.
Flat Color Drawing
-$150 per character
---Or $100/ea for waist-up only
-Background: $Varies
---Solid color or simple pattern: $0
---Complex pattern: $10-$30
---Full scene: $50-$200 (depends on complexity)
To claim a slot:
-Read my Terms of Service.
-Fill out Commissions Form.
-Wait for an email from babypandoracommissions[at]gmail.com
The form will be open for submissions (at least) until I would be able to pay my bills.
Thank you for the kind messages
Posted a year agoI wanna thank everyone for the kind messages on the goodbye pic and the Lost in Regression journal I made earlier this week.
It's been a rough few years, and the scars will never fully heal, but I'm glad I'm still here. I'm glad I'm still alive. I'm gonna do my best to not take that for granted anymore.
    It's been a rough few years, and the scars will never fully heal, but I'm glad I'm still here. I'm glad I'm still alive. I'm gonna do my best to not take that for granted anymore.
Why I ended Lost in Regression, and How It Would've Gone
Posted a year agoCONTENT WARNING: This journal is going to discuss depression and suicide. Though, if you were reading Lost in Regression as I uploaded it, you probably already knew that.
In the journal where I said I was putting a hold on LiR, I said that I was in a much better place. That was just a straight-up lie lol. To you, to my friends, and to myself (and I actually believed it). True, I wasn't actively suicidal anymore, but the bar to clear for that is on the fuckin' ground. It's only now that I realize this, but the truth is, I had begun to just shut down emotionally. I was isolating myself. I was removing myself from things that brought me joy, and that included both drawing and feeling little, both things that were kind of crucial for making Lost in Regression. It wasn't until just a couple months ago that I started to open myself up emotionally and talk to people again.
HOW LOST IN REGRESSION WAS GOING TO GO:
I've created a Google Doc with the pages of Lost in Regression that I've been sitting on for the past few years. I had originally storyboarded a total of 88 pages, and even rendered a few that were never uploaded. Here's the link if you want to read the rest of Lost in Regression and learn how I planned the ending.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/.....it?usp=sharing
    In the journal where I said I was putting a hold on LiR, I said that I was in a much better place. That was just a straight-up lie lol. To you, to my friends, and to myself (and I actually believed it). True, I wasn't actively suicidal anymore, but the bar to clear for that is on the fuckin' ground. It's only now that I realize this, but the truth is, I had begun to just shut down emotionally. I was isolating myself. I was removing myself from things that brought me joy, and that included both drawing and feeling little, both things that were kind of crucial for making Lost in Regression. It wasn't until just a couple months ago that I started to open myself up emotionally and talk to people again.
HOW LOST IN REGRESSION WAS GOING TO GO:
I've created a Google Doc with the pages of Lost in Regression that I've been sitting on for the past few years. I had originally storyboarded a total of 88 pages, and even rendered a few that were never uploaded. Here's the link if you want to read the rest of Lost in Regression and learn how I planned the ending.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/.....it?usp=sharing
💫Commissions are open!💫
Posted a year agoHey there! It's time to pay bills again lol. I'm taking commissions for Grayscales Sketches and Flat Color Drawings. And while this is covered in the *required to read* ToS, here are my prices:
Grayscale Sketch
-$75 per character
-No backgrounds available
A simple, but cleaned-up sketch with various shades of gray instead of color. Easier for my colorblind eyes to work on.
Flat Color Drawing
-$150 per character
---Or $100/ea for waist-up only
-Background: $Varies
---Solid color or simple pattern: $0
---Complex pattern: $10-$30
---Full scene: $50-$200 (depends on complexity)
To claim a slot:
-Read my Terms of Service.
-Fill out Commissions Form.
-Wait for an email from babypandoracommissions[at]gmail.com
The form will be open for submissions (at least) until I would be able to pay my bills.
    Grayscale Sketch
-$75 per character
-No backgrounds available
A simple, but cleaned-up sketch with various shades of gray instead of color. Easier for my colorblind eyes to work on.
Flat Color Drawing
-$150 per character
---Or $100/ea for waist-up only
-Background: $Varies
---Solid color or simple pattern: $0
---Complex pattern: $10-$30
---Full scene: $50-$200 (depends on complexity)
To claim a slot:
-Read my Terms of Service.
-Fill out Commissions Form.
-Wait for an email from babypandoracommissions[at]gmail.com
The form will be open for submissions (at least) until I would be able to pay my bills.
Would anyone be interested in a comic commission?
Posted a year agoI'm feeling the urge to do a short (2-5 page) age regression comic again, and I'm wondering if there's any interest in making it a commission/auction.
The reason I ask is because it'd prolly be a little pricey for most people (with the time it'd take me to make and the monthly bills I'd have to pay). It's prolly be $200+ per page (plus extra for any potential backgrounds).
If there's enough interest in it, I'll do an auction.
    The reason I ask is because it'd prolly be a little pricey for most people (with the time it'd take me to make and the monthly bills I'd have to pay). It's prolly be $200+ per page (plus extra for any potential backgrounds).
If there's enough interest in it, I'll do an auction.
Just an FYI, I have another account
Posted a year agoHi! Tala here! I'm just letting y'all know that I have a separate, non-ABDL/babyfur account here by the name of FrappeKat. It's been kinda dormant for a while, but I'm starting to upload some saucy pics to it now.
If you like my art and want to support me even outside of the ABDL/babyfur space, please consider following FrappeKat!
I'm also active on BlueSky under both PandorasArtbox and FrappeKat! If you're on BlueSky, look me up!
    If you like my art and want to support me even outside of the ABDL/babyfur space, please consider following FrappeKat!
I'm also active on BlueSky under both PandorasArtbox and FrappeKat! If you're on BlueSky, look me up!
I'm a lot more active on Bluesky, btw
Posted a year agoHey there! Thanks for coming, and thanks for making this round of commissions my most successful one in years. It really, truly means a lot. I was even able to buy diapers for the first time in over year!
Anyway, a lot of people here have said they missed my art. And yeah, my output is only just now recovering from my mental collapse those years ago, but I do post a lot more frequently to Bluesky. It's like Twitter, but without the annoying ads and constant ragebait thrown in your face. It VERY WELL could become another Twitter at some point in the future, but right now, it's a chill place. A lot of folks on bsky seem to be of the mindset of "Pleeeeease don't make this another Twitter, leave the drama over there."
It'd be nice to see some more fuzzbutts on bsky, so if you're sick of Twitter like I am (and so many others are), then please consider setting up an account there. I'd like to be done with Twitter at some point, but it's unfortunately still the place with the largest audience. I desperately want that to change.
My profile there is pandorasartbox.bsky.social . Hope to see you there, too!
    Anyway, a lot of people here have said they missed my art. And yeah, my output is only just now recovering from my mental collapse those years ago, but I do post a lot more frequently to Bluesky. It's like Twitter, but without the annoying ads and constant ragebait thrown in your face. It VERY WELL could become another Twitter at some point in the future, but right now, it's a chill place. A lot of folks on bsky seem to be of the mindset of "Pleeeeease don't make this another Twitter, leave the drama over there."
It'd be nice to see some more fuzzbutts on bsky, so if you're sick of Twitter like I am (and so many others are), then please consider setting up an account there. I'd like to be done with Twitter at some point, but it's unfortunately still the place with the largest audience. I desperately want that to change.
My profile there is pandorasartbox.bsky.social . Hope to see you there, too!
Emails for commissions have been sent!
Posted a year agoEmails have been sent! If you sent in a commission form, please check your email at your earliest convenience!
    Hey there
Posted 3 years agoSo, uh, with Twitter going up in flames right now, I figured it's time to dust off this account and start being more active here. I originally moved to Twitter-only because I was getting twice the traffic there than I was here, and I only had the energy to keep up with one site. But there's no guarantee that Twitter will be usable even tomorrow, soooo... hey. Been a while, huh?
Something to know: Lost in Regression is put on hold. I know, I don't have a great track record with long-form comics, huh? That's why I've made the decision to move to shorter comics, instead. In fact, I already have the first one's storyboards uploaded to Patreon. Please don't ask for more LiR. I made that comic for myself primarily, and I'm in a much better headspace now than I was when I made it. It helped me through the roughest moment of my life, and now I want to move on.
    Something to know: Lost in Regression is put on hold. I know, I don't have a great track record with long-form comics, huh? That's why I've made the decision to move to shorter comics, instead. In fact, I already have the first one's storyboards uploaded to Patreon. Please don't ask for more LiR. I made that comic for myself primarily, and I'm in a much better headspace now than I was when I made it. It helped me through the roughest moment of my life, and now I want to move on.
Yes, I'm still alive
Posted 5 years agoI know some of you don't follow me on Twitter, and even fewer have access to my AD (more personal) account there, so I figured I should let you guys know I'm still alive, too.
I can't say much more than that, though. The last two weeks have been... the most difficult time in my life, no exaggeration (and that's honestly saying a lot). I've spent every waking moment that hasn't been filled with distractions wishing I was dead, too. I even attempted it, twice, and was put in a crisis center for it (which honestly made things worse instead of helping). I've put over 30 hours into Fire Emblem Three Houses in just the last week because the second I put it down, I go back to feeling like absolute shit.
I don't think I'm in danger of hurting/killing myself anymore, though. The past two attempts have really cemented that I don't have the will to actually carry through a suicide. So, you probably don't have to worry about me on that front. Instead, I'm just stuck... stuck here, feeling awful, in unimaginable pain. I want to die, so much, but I can't do anything about it.
I have been reading every comment that's been sent to me. And I appreciate the condolences, but nothing's making me feel better. Words are hollow to me at this point.
    I can't say much more than that, though. The last two weeks have been... the most difficult time in my life, no exaggeration (and that's honestly saying a lot). I've spent every waking moment that hasn't been filled with distractions wishing I was dead, too. I even attempted it, twice, and was put in a crisis center for it (which honestly made things worse instead of helping). I've put over 30 hours into Fire Emblem Three Houses in just the last week because the second I put it down, I go back to feeling like absolute shit.
I don't think I'm in danger of hurting/killing myself anymore, though. The past two attempts have really cemented that I don't have the will to actually carry through a suicide. So, you probably don't have to worry about me on that front. Instead, I'm just stuck... stuck here, feeling awful, in unimaginable pain. I want to die, so much, but I can't do anything about it.
I have been reading every comment that's been sent to me. And I appreciate the condolences, but nothing's making me feel better. Words are hollow to me at this point.
Worst news of my life, and Youthful Bliss may be cancelle...
Posted 5 years agoI got news last night that my mommy, RebeccaDragons , killed herself. I'm... not okay, not in the slightest. This is the worst news I've ever received in my life. I'm currently at the lowest point of my life (which is really saying something, if I'm being honest), and matters are only made worse by the fact that just last week was the previous worst week of my life.
I can't stop crying. I love her so much. More than I love myself. I feel like a part of me died with her. Part of me wants to follow her, but I've never been brave enough for any kind of self-harm... well, not before last night, anyway. I have some new scars on my arm this morning.
I honestly can't picture myself living without her. I had a plan to move to the Seattle area after graduating so I could be with her... but... nope, not happening, apparently. I just... miss her so much. I'm never gonna hug her again. The only time I'll hear her voice again is in voice messages on Telegram. I'm... not prepared for that. I don't want that. I want my mommy back. I wanna be in her arms again. God fucking damn it I'm in so much pain right now.
As for Youthful Bliss, I'm not sure if it's gonna continue. Mommy's character was crucial to the plot, and I was SO excited for her arc, I was gonna pour my soul into it... but it'll never happen.
If you've paid for a cameo in YB, I'll probably think of a new comic and grandfather you in. But for now... I need to focus on keeping myself alive. I'm genuinely scared I may kill myself by the end of the year.
    I can't stop crying. I love her so much. More than I love myself. I feel like a part of me died with her. Part of me wants to follow her, but I've never been brave enough for any kind of self-harm... well, not before last night, anyway. I have some new scars on my arm this morning.
I honestly can't picture myself living without her. I had a plan to move to the Seattle area after graduating so I could be with her... but... nope, not happening, apparently. I just... miss her so much. I'm never gonna hug her again. The only time I'll hear her voice again is in voice messages on Telegram. I'm... not prepared for that. I don't want that. I want my mommy back. I wanna be in her arms again. God fucking damn it I'm in so much pain right now.
As for Youthful Bliss, I'm not sure if it's gonna continue. Mommy's character was crucial to the plot, and I was SO excited for her arc, I was gonna pour my soul into it... but it'll never happen.
If you've paid for a cameo in YB, I'll probably think of a new comic and grandfather you in. But for now... I need to focus on keeping myself alive. I'm genuinely scared I may kill myself by the end of the year.
Streaming animation! ($10+ Patrons)
Posted 5 years agoCommissions are open! (CLOSED NOW)
Posted 5 years agoI'm full up! Thank you!
Hey, it's been quite a while, hasn't it? I think it's been half a year since I opened for normal commissions. I honestly don't remember how I managed to go so long without taking any.
Anyhoo, I'm opening for all types of illustration commissions, but no story commissions. And like always, I'm only taking two Telegram sticker set commissions (flashback to May 2019 when I did over 70 stickers......). I am NOT opening for story commissions.
Also, yes, I am open to do "naughty" stuff, as well!
To claim a slot:
Read my Terms of Service
Head to the commissions page of my website.
Click/tap on the style you want (Toony or Normal), and click/tap "Order ___ Commission"
I will be open until I reach a certain monetary threshold.
    Anyhoo, I'm opening for all types of illustration commissions, but no story commissions. And like always, I'm only taking two Telegram sticker set commissions (flashback to May 2019 when I did over 70 stickers......). I am NOT opening for story commissions.
Also, yes, I am open to do "naughty" stuff, as well!
To claim a slot:
Read my Terms of Service
Head to the commissions page of my website.
Click/tap on the style you want (Toony or Normal), and click/tap "Order ___ Commission"
I will be open until I reach a certain monetary threshold.
This week's page of Youthful Bliss will be up Sunday
Posted 5 years agoI'm visiting my parents in Florida this week and forgot to put this week's pages on my laptop. Oopsie.
Sorry about that, I'll get them uploaded when I drive home on Sunday.
    Sorry about that, I'll get them uploaded when I drive home on Sunday.
Everything is politics
Posted 5 years ago*Everything* is politics.
But it wouldn't even matter if that wasn't true. I'm not gonna stay silent while my rights are being trampled on by an orange coward and his dick-sucking puppets.
https://twitter.com/kamufossa/statu.....690262022?s=21
    But it wouldn't even matter if that wasn't true. I'm not gonna stay silent while my rights are being trampled on by an orange coward and his dick-sucking puppets.
https://twitter.com/kamufossa/statu.....690262022?s=21
Update: Youthful Bliss, art in general
Posted 5 years agoSo, yeah. I know I've been spotty with getting Youthful Bliss pages out, and I'm really sorry. I was doing fine mentally after starting my anxiety meds, but they're starting to become less and less effective as this year just keeps throwing new shit at us. It's been hard to stay motivated, and I've admittedly been high more often than I prolly should.
I know I have an obligation to make pages on a consistent basis for you, but I didn't want the quality to dip due to fatigue (I could see it starting to slip in the last few pages). Regardless, that doesn't excuse the fact that I've just been silent on this while you're all prolly wondering where new pages are. I'm sorry, I'll try to be better.
    I know I have an obligation to make pages on a consistent basis for you, but I didn't want the quality to dip due to fatigue (I could see it starting to slip in the last few pages). Regardless, that doesn't excuse the fact that I've just been silent on this while you're all prolly wondering where new pages are. I'm sorry, I'll try to be better.
Quick note about Notes (why I don't respond to many)
Posted 5 years ago(Kopi-pe from my Twitter account):
I feel like I should put something out there:
Please don't be upset or think you did anything wrong if I don't respond to your DMs, Notes, Telegram messages, etc. I get so many from so many people at this point that I can't respond to everyone, otherwise I'll go insane.
I wasn't popular growing up. I can count on my hands how many people during grade school that I liked and liked me, as well. Countless other people bullied me up until sophomore year of high school. So, I mostly kept to myself whenever I wasn't around my small circle of friends
I'm not used to having so many people *want* to talk to me. And it skyrocketed after I started Youthful Bliss and my follower count ballooned. I'm grateful for all of you following and supporting me, but I genuinely don't know how to handle all of the attention I receive.
If I were to attempt to respond to everyone who wants to talk to me, on top of everything else on my plate that I can already barely manage, I would have a *complete* mental shutdown.
Please don't be upset or think I'm upset if I don't respond to you.
    I feel like I should put something out there:
Please don't be upset or think you did anything wrong if I don't respond to your DMs, Notes, Telegram messages, etc. I get so many from so many people at this point that I can't respond to everyone, otherwise I'll go insane.
I wasn't popular growing up. I can count on my hands how many people during grade school that I liked and liked me, as well. Countless other people bullied me up until sophomore year of high school. So, I mostly kept to myself whenever I wasn't around my small circle of friends
I'm not used to having so many people *want* to talk to me. And it skyrocketed after I started Youthful Bliss and my follower count ballooned. I'm grateful for all of you following and supporting me, but I genuinely don't know how to handle all of the attention I receive.
If I were to attempt to respond to everyone who wants to talk to me, on top of everything else on my plate that I can already barely manage, I would have a *complete* mental shutdown.
Please don't be upset or think I'm upset if I don't respond to you.
Another update (Youthful Bliss, commissions, life)
Posted 5 years agoI'm sorry for the lack of activity on my part. I've been having a hard time lately keeping up with both school and work, and it's been absolutely exhausting.
I visited my mommies
 BabySam and 
 RebeccaDragons last week, and it was one of the most incredible weeks of my entire life. I had basically an entire week of just being baby, and it was phenomenal. I felt safe, small, calm, and genuinely happy. But when it came time to leave, I broke down, I didn't want to leave and go back to being a grown-up. I have to keep moving 24/7 to be able to keep up with bills and schoolwork, and I'm miserable and exhausted. It's a good thing airplanes are loud, because I was ugly crying during takeoff.
I'm mostly okay now, though. I've composed myself, but now I just feel numb emotionally and I've only just gotten my appetite back a few hours ago. I'm still really not looking forward to adulting again, though. I hate being an adult so much...
Aaaaanyway, onto Youthful Bliss and commissions. Same as my last journal, I still have a batch of Youthful Bliss pages I wanna pump out before starting commissions, just so it's one last thing to worry about when school starts again in a week. I am uploading a new page now, though
    I visited my mommies
 BabySam and 
 RebeccaDragons last week, and it was one of the most incredible weeks of my entire life. I had basically an entire week of just being baby, and it was phenomenal. I felt safe, small, calm, and genuinely happy. But when it came time to leave, I broke down, I didn't want to leave and go back to being a grown-up. I have to keep moving 24/7 to be able to keep up with bills and schoolwork, and I'm miserable and exhausted. It's a good thing airplanes are loud, because I was ugly crying during takeoff.I'm mostly okay now, though. I've composed myself, but now I just feel numb emotionally and I've only just gotten my appetite back a few hours ago. I'm still really not looking forward to adulting again, though. I hate being an adult so much...
Aaaaanyway, onto Youthful Bliss and commissions. Same as my last journal, I still have a batch of Youthful Bliss pages I wanna pump out before starting commissions, just so it's one last thing to worry about when school starts again in a week. I am uploading a new page now, though
Just a general update (Commissions, Youthful Bliss)
Posted 5 years agoHey guys.
Life has been incredibly busy for me lately. This semester's difficulty curve has been steep and I've been having trouble keeping up with school and work. However, a lot of my lovely Patrons have offered to not receive a reward this month. Plus, spring break is next week and classes the week after have been outright canceled due to COVID-19.
I plan to build a stockpile of weekly pages of Youthful Bliss (two months' worth), then I plan to start working on commissions. So, if you've ordered a commission from me, I'm sorry it's taken so long to get started on them, but I've been absolutely exhausted and miserable the last month or so trying to keep up with everything.
Things are progressing, just slowly.
    Life has been incredibly busy for me lately. This semester's difficulty curve has been steep and I've been having trouble keeping up with school and work. However, a lot of my lovely Patrons have offered to not receive a reward this month. Plus, spring break is next week and classes the week after have been outright canceled due to COVID-19.
I plan to build a stockpile of weekly pages of Youthful Bliss (two months' worth), then I plan to start working on commissions. So, if you've ordered a commission from me, I'm sorry it's taken so long to get started on them, but I've been absolutely exhausted and miserable the last month or so trying to keep up with everything.
Things are progressing, just slowly.
No page of Youthful Bliss this week! (Midterms)
Posted 5 years agoIt's midterm week and I have THREE big papers to write by Monday. Between that and finishing Patreon rewards, I won't be able to finish this week's page. It will be back next week, though!
    Commissions still open!
Posted 5 years agoCommissions are CLOSED NOW! THANK YOU!
Posted 5 years ago1- I'm only taking TWO Telegram sticker set commissions Filled!
2- No story commissions this time
To claim a slot:
Read my Terms of Service
Head to the commissions page of my website.
Click/tap on the style you want (Toony or Normal), and click/tap "Order ___ Commission"
Youthful Bliss back on Wednesday!
Posted 6 years agoI'm sorry for the delay in pages, I've been swamped lately, especially with school starting back up. But Vlue will be helping me get Youthful Bliss to you guys by coloring the pages for me! So expect the weekly schedule to pick back up!
    ✨IMPORTANT FOR $20 PATRONS!!✨
Posted 6 years agoIf you are a Bottle tier Patron of mine, PLEASE read this post, it is VERY important that you do!
https://www.patreon.com/posts/33236845
    https://www.patreon.com/posts/33236845
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