Streaming More often, More deals
General | Posted a year agoSo I am gonna try and stream more often, try my best to be a bit more frequent.
I am gonna try and stream more often.
I am also bringing back the deal bin to try and make things like stream commissions more affordable
Here are my pages for Picarto and Piczel which I will go back and forth between.
https://picarto.tv/BFSDraws - Picarto
https://piczel.tv/watch/ClothRobot - Piczel
I am open to ideas and suggestions for warmups or themes. What do you want to see? what me to try a specific topic? let me know.
The Deal Bin is an ever-changing bargain bin. You can suggest a deal to provide for others. When you take a deal, you contribute a replacement deal.
Note:
-You cannot make a deal for yourself. You can only make a deal for others to take advantage of.
-while I will try and include the occational freebie, they will be limited to avoid abuse.
-abusing the bin means you will be banned from it.
-I will have final approval over the deal. I am allowed to tweak/modify it in compliance but i will be fair
Anyways. I will try and stream more often to get ideas. So feel free to come by and say hello.
I am gonna try and stream more often.
I am also bringing back the deal bin to try and make things like stream commissions more affordable
Here are my pages for Picarto and Piczel which I will go back and forth between.
https://picarto.tv/BFSDraws - Picarto
https://piczel.tv/watch/ClothRobot - Piczel
I am open to ideas and suggestions for warmups or themes. What do you want to see? what me to try a specific topic? let me know.
The Deal Bin is an ever-changing bargain bin. You can suggest a deal to provide for others. When you take a deal, you contribute a replacement deal.
Note:
-You cannot make a deal for yourself. You can only make a deal for others to take advantage of.
-while I will try and include the occational freebie, they will be limited to avoid abuse.
-abusing the bin means you will be banned from it.
-I will have final approval over the deal. I am allowed to tweak/modify it in compliance but i will be fair
Anyways. I will try and stream more often to get ideas. So feel free to come by and say hello.
I have Returned!
General | Posted 2 years agoHello all, Its been a while. Been out and about with different things and kinda got some updates
So first of all a little info of where i have been.
I have been improving, still doing my art and crafts.
I have been doing crochet, working on art and trying to find a job.
However since i have been unable to find work. I will have to start looking at my artwork as more of a living fund.
So tha being said
I am back with a new computer, able to handle streaming and artwork.
So I am open for commission and available. I will be offering Commissions and stream commissions, Maybe come up with a deal arrangement.
I am looking forward to pushing ahead and getting back into commissions. I have commissions i am working but always open to discussions.
I appologize for my abscens and will try to upload more consistantly.
I have a bunch of crochet Amigurumi as well I can make.
So first of all a little info of where i have been.
I have been improving, still doing my art and crafts.
I have been doing crochet, working on art and trying to find a job.
However since i have been unable to find work. I will have to start looking at my artwork as more of a living fund.
So tha being said
I am back with a new computer, able to handle streaming and artwork.
So I am open for commission and available. I will be offering Commissions and stream commissions, Maybe come up with a deal arrangement.
I am looking forward to pushing ahead and getting back into commissions. I have commissions i am working but always open to discussions.
I appologize for my abscens and will try to upload more consistantly.
I have a bunch of crochet Amigurumi as well I can make.
New ways to Pay for art!
General | Posted 7 years agoI have been hearing people who are enjoying my art but dont have a paypal or anything to pay for art, so I have come up with a way that people who dont have paypal can still pay for artwork.
People can pay for artwork with art supplies.
I made an amazon wishlist that people can use to pay for artwork, or if they want to help me learn and grow.
Amazon Wish list: http://a.co/49mAbkH
Let me know what you think, what to add? I want to make my artwork as accessable as possible.
People can pay for artwork with art supplies.
I made an amazon wishlist that people can use to pay for artwork, or if they want to help me learn and grow.
Amazon Wish list: http://a.co/49mAbkH
Let me know what you think, what to add? I want to make my artwork as accessable as possible.
Offering some deals for those interested
General | Posted 7 years agoJust thought I would throw some deals out for anyone interested.
$20 Ink/Lineart.
3 slots
Slot 1:
Slot 2:
Slot 3:
October 24, 2017
Offering some PWYW slots ($7min)
Slot 1:
Slot 2:
Slot 3:
Slot 4?:
$15 Sketches. +5 Lineart upgrade.
slot 1
Slot 2
slot 3
Just send me a note and let me know if you are interested.
$20 Ink/Lineart.
3 slots
Slot 1:
Slot 2:
Slot 3:
October 24, 2017
Offering some PWYW slots ($7min)
Slot 1:
Slot 2:
Slot 3:
Slot 4?:
$15 Sketches. +5 Lineart upgrade.
slot 1
Slot 2
slot 3
Just send me a note and let me know if you are interested.
RiP: Stephen Hawking
General | Posted 7 years agoyeah, Those black holes he was looking for, one finally came to pick him up and take him to another dimension.
https://www.theguardian.com/science.....r-dies-aged-76
RiP Stephen
P.S. ......Since you wont need it....can I have your chair?
https://www.theguardian.com/science.....r-dies-aged-76
RiP Stephen
P.S. ......Since you wont need it....can I have your chair?
TAKING SKETCH REQUESTS ON DISCORD.
General | Posted 8 years agoI am heading OUT the door.
Gonna grab my sketchbooks, go out for a coffee, and take a couple requests for those interested
(New joiners will take priority)
I am open to suggestions and ideas.
Keep in mind this will be in a public food court so cant do anything TOO explicit lol
anyways, Join the link below, leave a request/suggestion, and I will see what I can do :)
https://discord.gg/am9hyHX
https://discord.gg/am9hyHX
https://discord.gg/am9hyHX
Gonna grab my sketchbooks, go out for a coffee, and take a couple requests for those interested
(New joiners will take priority)
I am open to suggestions and ideas.
Keep in mind this will be in a public food court so cant do anything TOO explicit lol
anyways, Join the link below, leave a request/suggestion, and I will see what I can do :)
https://discord.gg/am9hyHX
https://discord.gg/am9hyHX
https://discord.gg/am9hyHX
Morning warmups: taking requests on Discord
General | Posted 8 years agoTaking some warmup requests/suggestions on Discord. I am in the mall food court so have to keep it SFW
But still trying to get ideas on what to warm up with
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
Join the discord, open for commissions, requests,
browse the money saver deels, make a suggestion. :)
But still trying to get ideas on what to warm up with
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
Join the discord, open for commissions, requests,
browse the money saver deels, make a suggestion. :)
Taking some Requests ON DISCCORD :D
General | Posted 8 years agoJoin my discord server where I am doing some offline requests, leaving a request channel
https://discord.gg/am9hyHX
Will do the ones that grab my attention, that inspire me.
Preferably NSFW (I need the practice)
I know I need to reorganize, I need to get more sketches done. But I dont know what to draw.
https://discord.gg/am9hyHX
Will do the ones that grab my attention, that inspire me.
Preferably NSFW (I need the practice)
I know I need to reorganize, I need to get more sketches done. But I dont know what to draw.
OMG OMG Nintendo Eshp + Paypal = LOVE
General | Posted 8 years agoYeah You can now choose PAYPAL as a payment option for the Nintendo Eshop on the Switch!
OMG OMG
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3b.....=youtu.be" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I am gonna have to offer more cheap artz,
of course bills come first, but I am so happy
OMG OMG
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3b.....=youtu.be" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I am gonna have to offer more cheap artz,
of course bills come first, but I am so happy
Sketch practice: Topical Requests
General | Posted 8 years agoSo I need more practice doing sketches. I want to expand and have things to practice.
So I am posting this journal as a request journal...in a sense.
Its not a -specific- request
But a topical request, a subject.
What sort of subjects would you like me to explore?
It can Be SFW or NSFW. General or Adult.
Leave a suggestion, a request below. You can leave a Reference, BUT the request cannot be centered around the character.
Acceptable: "Would like to see some tentacles or scalies. I have a scalie character >insert character< for reference"
Not Acceptable: I want to see my character >insert character< with tentacles and/or scalies
Remember this is about learning new techniques, expanding what I know. If the character is interesting, I may use it in the sketches for practice. But this is about Education, not just free art handouts.
I have tried giving out free requests in the past and it led to my generousity being abused which is why I rarely (if ever) do freebie streams.
So I try and start small, things like these to determine if its safe to try again.
BUT anyways
Leave a topic, Leave a suggestion, something you would like to see me try my hand at. If you have a character that can help as "reference material" that I can work from, leave that as well.
Let my education commence!
So I am posting this journal as a request journal...in a sense.
Its not a -specific- request
But a topical request, a subject.
What sort of subjects would you like me to explore?
It can Be SFW or NSFW. General or Adult.
Leave a suggestion, a request below. You can leave a Reference, BUT the request cannot be centered around the character.
Acceptable: "Would like to see some tentacles or scalies. I have a scalie character >insert character< for reference"
Not Acceptable: I want to see my character >insert character< with tentacles and/or scalies
Remember this is about learning new techniques, expanding what I know. If the character is interesting, I may use it in the sketches for practice. But this is about Education, not just free art handouts.
I have tried giving out free requests in the past and it led to my generousity being abused which is why I rarely (if ever) do freebie streams.
So I try and start small, things like these to determine if its safe to try again.
BUT anyways
Leave a topic, Leave a suggestion, something you would like to see me try my hand at. If you have a character that can help as "reference material" that I can work from, leave that as well.
Let my education commence!
Join me on my Discord Server
General | Posted 8 years agoWant to discuss commissioner s? Art? Or just chill with me? Join my discord server. When not streaming I am still checking in on my Discord server. Upload works-in-progress, sketches, offer deals, discounts, and occational freebies. Want to see what I work on when I am not streaming? Join the link below and say hello.
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
Click the link to be taken to my discord server
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
Click the link to be taken to my discord server
How to join me on Switch (Friewnd Code)
General | Posted 8 years agoI got my switch, you can find it here:
My Friend Code is : SW-3458-4699-7479
My Friend Code is : SW-3458-4699-7479
My Friend Code is : SW-3458-4699-7479
Currenly have Zelda and Fast RMX
My Friend Code is : SW-3458-4699-7479
My Friend Code is : SW-3458-4699-7479
My Friend Code is : SW-3458-4699-7479
Currenly have Zelda and Fast RMX
Doodles on Discord. PWYW, Requests, sketches and more.
General | Posted 9 years agohttps://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
https://discord.gg/EBqRW5R
Join the chat, join the voice. Will be sitting at the mall taking suggestions, Possible requests.
I am always open to suggestions and ideas. Carrying my sketchbooks with me, so say hi and feel free to leave a suggestion
Taking Suggestions on Discord (Link below)
General | Posted 9 years agoI am taking some suggestions, Possible requests on my Discord Server.
https://discord.gg/pJ2AqUg
I have a number of sketchbooks, looking for ideas and possible requests
These will be rough traditional sketchbook sketches (artist perogative applies)
So Feel free to let me know on discord if you have something you want to see.
I want ideas for sample pages. Something i can show "this is my art style, here are some samples"
Again the link is
https://discord.gg/pJ2AqUg
https://discord.gg/pJ2AqUg
https://discord.gg/pJ2AqUg
I have a number of sketchbooks, looking for ideas and possible requests
These will be rough traditional sketchbook sketches (artist perogative applies)
So Feel free to let me know on discord if you have something you want to see.
I want ideas for sample pages. Something i can show "this is my art style, here are some samples"
Again the link is
https://discord.gg/pJ2AqUg
https://discord.gg/pJ2AqUg
Discord Art Server. Requests, Chatter, Voice on streams?
General | Posted 9 years agoSo yeah recently someone suggested I try Discord
And I did, and I actully find myself using it alot more
So I decided to Make a Server for Art related...stuffs.
Commissions, Requests? Questions? Suggestions? Even chill voice chat while i stream (yeah I havent streamed much, trying to work up the drive) But you can also chat with me when I am NOT streaming. Have something you would like to see me try? have an idea? go ahead. I will also start using it to post my traditional sketches for all to see :)
Anyways, here is the link
https://discord.gg/pJ2AqUg
Just keep things decent or I will have to boot. I dont want to...but I may have to to keep the atmosphere pleasant.
So yeah, I am trying my best to draw more.
Anyways, just thought i would drop this off.
Gonna practice my lines and play some league. If you wanna chat? you now know where you can find me :)
And I did, and I actully find myself using it alot more
So I decided to Make a Server for Art related...stuffs.
Commissions, Requests? Questions? Suggestions? Even chill voice chat while i stream (yeah I havent streamed much, trying to work up the drive) But you can also chat with me when I am NOT streaming. Have something you would like to see me try? have an idea? go ahead. I will also start using it to post my traditional sketches for all to see :)
Anyways, here is the link
https://discord.gg/pJ2AqUg
Just keep things decent or I will have to boot. I dont want to...but I may have to to keep the atmosphere pleasant.
So yeah, I am trying my best to draw more.
Anyways, just thought i would drop this off.
Gonna practice my lines and play some league. If you wanna chat? you now know where you can find me :)
Request bin + Upgrade Offer
General | Posted 9 years agoSo I want to try this again.
YES this is a Request bin in a sense. But I am gonna try and explain this.
Feel free to Leave your request below. Please understand that there is NO GUARANTEE that the request will be chosen, but if it draws my attention. I may just try it out.
These requests are for SKETCHES only, 1-2 characters (Depending on complexity)
The more interesting the request, the more likely I am to try it out. this takes into account things like:
-Is the reference material understandable.
-is the idea unique (a new topic/Subject. is it something I can learn from?)
-is the character interesting? A new challenge?
Just SOME things I take into consideration. :)
BUT if I do take your request, I will send you a message. And when I get something done, I will give an offer. Can upgrade the FREE SKETCH (one per person) to upper levels for $10 each
Sketch - Free
Ink - $10
Flat - $20
Full - $30
So let me know what you think. How can I improve this :D Like the idea? dont like the idea? I want to try and do the practice with a chance to get more paid "upgrades"
anyways, sitting here going through ranked (Lol preseason) and doodling between matches, but need ideas
YES this is a Request bin in a sense. But I am gonna try and explain this.
Feel free to Leave your request below. Please understand that there is NO GUARANTEE that the request will be chosen, but if it draws my attention. I may just try it out.
These requests are for SKETCHES only, 1-2 characters (Depending on complexity)
The more interesting the request, the more likely I am to try it out. this takes into account things like:
-Is the reference material understandable.
-is the idea unique (a new topic/Subject. is it something I can learn from?)
-is the character interesting? A new challenge?
Just SOME things I take into consideration. :)
BUT if I do take your request, I will send you a message. And when I get something done, I will give an offer. Can upgrade the FREE SKETCH (one per person) to upper levels for $10 each
Sketch - Free
Ink - $10
Flat - $20
Full - $30
So let me know what you think. How can I improve this :D Like the idea? dont like the idea? I want to try and do the practice with a chance to get more paid "upgrades"
anyways, sitting here going through ranked (Lol preseason) and doodling between matches, but need ideas
OMG I feel SO DUMB
General | Posted 9 years ago...I was messing around in clip studio, waddled around the website. and finally found the MATERIALS PAGE
http://www.clipstudio.net/en/dl/materials/
WTF ME!
I feel so stupid right now,
all these glorious materials. and it took me this long to find it.
*Proceeds to download and scribble with the ones that seem interesting*
I still feel so stupid...
http://www.clipstudio.net/en/dl/materials/
WTF ME!
I feel so stupid right now,
all these glorious materials. and it took me this long to find it.
*Proceeds to download and scribble with the ones that seem interesting*
I still feel so stupid...
Past Life Tarot Reading: Practice
General | Posted 9 years agoSo I found a spread or two on Past Life tarot readings and thought I would offer these as freebies.
I want to see just how Relevant they can be, how much information I can pull.
This is also Good practice for me, So I thought I would open up a few slots (I will open more if these ones get filled.
It is first come first serve, there will be no charge for these as they are practice for me.
So I will Do the spread and send the results in a note. You are free to Publish it if you want. If you wish to reply to the note with your thoughts, please I just ask that good or bad, you be honest. I am always curious about improving my accuracy and relevancy.
So want to see what one of your past lives was like? Let me know
Slot 1 -
Zettan
Slot 2 -
Aquingator
Slot 3 -
Geopye
I want to see just how Relevant they can be, how much information I can pull.
This is also Good practice for me, So I thought I would open up a few slots (I will open more if these ones get filled.
It is first come first serve, there will be no charge for these as they are practice for me.
So I will Do the spread and send the results in a note. You are free to Publish it if you want. If you wish to reply to the note with your thoughts, please I just ask that good or bad, you be honest. I am always curious about improving my accuracy and relevancy.
So want to see what one of your past lives was like? Let me know
Slot 1 -
ZettanSlot 2 -
AquingatorSlot 3 -
GeopyeOffering: $10 Traditional sketches
General | Posted 9 years agoYeah I am opening up the $10 bin again.
More practice with traditional sketches,
So opening a few slots of $10 sketches.
-sketch
G-XXX
1-2 character (depending on complexity)
Props included
Simple background/flat background
Also want to test out doing "Past life" tarot readings if anyone would be interested. Want to see how much interest there is in the readings first.
More practice with traditional sketches,
So opening a few slots of $10 sketches.
-sketch
G-XXX
1-2 character (depending on complexity)
Props included
Simple background/flat background
Also want to test out doing "Past life" tarot readings if anyone would be interested. Want to see how much interest there is in the readings first.
Suggestion, Possible Req. and more Open
General | Posted 9 years agoyeah this is a journal to make suggestions, requests, etc.
Can be a suggestion for a topic,
A request (though No guarantees, If It catches my interest or the mood hits, I may give it a shot). It will be wing its, sketch. 1-2 people (mebe),
Pwyw Offers. (Leave an offer, I may take it)
Maybe Trades? suggestions?
Also taking in Sketch in the blanks phrases (Unfilled: ex: "Big muscled _____ Wearing a _____ while _____ a ______")
I want to try and practice so many things. but this will be something to do while I am offline, ideas in a hat to draw from.
Think of it like this. I have a hard time coming up with scenario ideas, scenes, etc. Its Like a hat of possible ideas. Right now the hat is empty
everytime someone makes a suggestion, it goes into the hat and gives me something to pull from when I need something to draw from. I am constantly learning constantly trying to improve. But I need direction. always looking to try new things.
so let me know what you want to see. Consider this a Request, Suggestion, Pwyw, Collab, trade, etc...Journal.
I am an introvert, I want to try and do more with others. I want to try and be more active. I need some direction. :)
so send the freak a message and see what the freak churns out :)
Can be a suggestion for a topic,
A request (though No guarantees, If It catches my interest or the mood hits, I may give it a shot). It will be wing its, sketch. 1-2 people (mebe),
Pwyw Offers. (Leave an offer, I may take it)
Maybe Trades? suggestions?
Also taking in Sketch in the blanks phrases (Unfilled: ex: "Big muscled _____ Wearing a _____ while _____ a ______")
I want to try and practice so many things. but this will be something to do while I am offline, ideas in a hat to draw from.
Think of it like this. I have a hard time coming up with scenario ideas, scenes, etc. Its Like a hat of possible ideas. Right now the hat is empty
everytime someone makes a suggestion, it goes into the hat and gives me something to pull from when I need something to draw from. I am constantly learning constantly trying to improve. But I need direction. always looking to try new things.
so let me know what you want to see. Consider this a Request, Suggestion, Pwyw, Collab, trade, etc...Journal.
I am an introvert, I want to try and do more with others. I want to try and be more active. I need some direction. :)
so send the freak a message and see what the freak churns out :)
Making clay charms, erasers, etc. Taking suggestions.
General | Posted 9 years agoGot a kit for making clay charms and erasers, gives me an excuse to use the toaster oven passed down from my grandparents.
So need some ideas on what to make.
some of the suggestions and ideas do far are things like...
Leagyue of legends charms
animal charms,
Zelda triforce eraser?
um....thats all I can really think of at the moment.
What would YOU like to see me make? Or attempt to make?
Think of it like an empty hat. The more suggestions I get, the more I have to draw from.
I may try doing things like fanart charms.. (Mario? pokemon? chibi character charms?)
so what would you like to see?
So need some ideas on what to make.
some of the suggestions and ideas do far are things like...
Leagyue of legends charms
animal charms,
Zelda triforce eraser?
um....thats all I can really think of at the moment.
What would YOU like to see me make? Or attempt to make?
Think of it like an empty hat. The more suggestions I get, the more I have to draw from.
I may try doing things like fanart charms.. (Mario? pokemon? chibi character charms?)
so what would you like to see?
Sorry for the silence :P
General | Posted 9 years agoJust wanted to let people know I am still alive. lol
Still working on art, but learning new things as well (like making clay charms and Erasers)
also still working on commissions, been trying to keep bills and budget under control so been spending alot of time trying to find ways to support myself :)
I am still here and will be streaming at some point, just have some things I want to get under wraps first. :)
If you want to talk to me I am on skype, Just ask for my Name :) I am active on skype and always like talking to people. I am an introvert so its how I get my interactions :)
Still working on art, but learning new things as well (like making clay charms and Erasers)
also still working on commissions, been trying to keep bills and budget under control so been spending alot of time trying to find ways to support myself :)
I am still here and will be streaming at some point, just have some things I want to get under wraps first. :)
If you want to talk to me I am on skype, Just ask for my Name :) I am active on skype and always like talking to people. I am an introvert so its how I get my interactions :)
HOLY SHIT, Manga/Clip Studio Now does ANIMATION?!
General | Posted 9 years agoWhy the fk wasnt I told...OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!
*Spazzes and bounces around*
So yeah, Manga studio and clip studio pro have apparently merged as far as thier updates work. And in the 1.5.4 they added (among other things) the ability to NOW ANIMATE.
timeline and all..
I mean I am still rooting around understanding the changes
but now being able to do full animations in manga studio.
CATCH ME! I feel faint....
So Yeah, gonna be fumbling with this for a while. wanna watch me fail? have any suggestions, I am gonna stream it so we can all laugh together!!!!
BUT OMG I NEED TO CHECK FOR UPDATES MORE OFTEN.
*Spazzes and bounces around*
So yeah, Manga studio and clip studio pro have apparently merged as far as thier updates work. And in the 1.5.4 they added (among other things) the ability to NOW ANIMATE.
timeline and all..
I mean I am still rooting around understanding the changes
but now being able to do full animations in manga studio.
CATCH ME! I feel faint....
So Yeah, gonna be fumbling with this for a while. wanna watch me fail? have any suggestions, I am gonna stream it so we can all laugh together!!!!
BUT OMG I NEED TO CHECK FOR UPDATES MORE OFTEN.
Sketch in the blank #3
General | Posted 9 years agoSo I thought I would do another Sketch in the blank.
this is a stream game that could also be used as a submission game (similar to YCH, PWYW, Etc)
How this works is simple. I have provided a phrase, sans a few words.
Comments can be left suggesting words to fill in the blanks.
once enough words are gathered in the word pool, i will use ONLY the words in the word pool to fill in the blanks. And draw a Full-color visualization of the phrase.
Submit your words to the word pool here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/20034241/
Previous Sketch in the blank is: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/17989362/
this is an example of the end result.
this is a stream game that could also be used as a submission game (similar to YCH, PWYW, Etc)
How this works is simple. I have provided a phrase, sans a few words.
Comments can be left suggesting words to fill in the blanks.
once enough words are gathered in the word pool, i will use ONLY the words in the word pool to fill in the blanks. And draw a Full-color visualization of the phrase.
Submit your words to the word pool here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/20034241/
Previous Sketch in the blank is: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/17989362/
this is an example of the end result.
SUPRISE! Random deal! $10 Sketch Doodles (Traditional)
General | Posted 9 years agoOffering some traditional sketches for $10
Only as long as this journal is up.
When the journal disappears, so does the deal.
Gives me something to do in the food court
in the meantime, gonna generate stock characters :) my pencil is ready
so. Interested?
see my gallery for traditional sketch samples
Only as long as this journal is up.
When the journal disappears, so does the deal.
Gives me something to do in the food court
in the meantime, gonna generate stock characters :) my pencil is ready
so. Interested?
see my gallery for traditional sketch samples
FA+
