When you finally bring your notifications back down...
Posted 4 months ago... to a nice low number after taking several days away from FA to rest and de-stress 😮💨👍
Also: June may be over for now, but the spirit and solidarity of Pride is a year round thing \ >:) /
Also: June may be over for now, but the spirit and solidarity of Pride is a year round thing \ >:) /
I should not have to say this
Posted 4 months agoBut evidently I do, judging from the antics that have been going on furry Bsky for the past couple days.
If you think drawing revenge porn of someone is okay, no matter how shitty their takes on kinkplay are, you're fucking dead to me. I don't want anything to do with you.
If you think trying to sic your followers like attack dogs on a trans woman is okay, including thinly veiled accusations of pedophilia, knowing that accusations of pedophilia are the most common vehicle transphobes use to harm trans people, no matter how shitty the trans woman in question's takes on kinkplay are, you're fucking dead to me. I don't want anything to do with you.
How dare you try to poison queer people -- especially trans women who have been incredibly kind, loving, and accepting -- against other trans women, during this time in history, right after the news of a prominent queer woman taking her own life due to nonstop harassment?
So fucking sick of this fandom. We're not progressive. We're not a safe space. I honestly wonder if we even deserve to exist at this point.
Against my better judgment, I'm leaving comments open on this one. But any snippy lectures on my "lack of personal responsibility" will be met with a crocodilian death roll. Enough is enough.
If you think drawing revenge porn of someone is okay, no matter how shitty their takes on kinkplay are, you're fucking dead to me. I don't want anything to do with you.
If you think trying to sic your followers like attack dogs on a trans woman is okay, including thinly veiled accusations of pedophilia, knowing that accusations of pedophilia are the most common vehicle transphobes use to harm trans people, no matter how shitty the trans woman in question's takes on kinkplay are, you're fucking dead to me. I don't want anything to do with you.
How dare you try to poison queer people -- especially trans women who have been incredibly kind, loving, and accepting -- against other trans women, during this time in history, right after the news of a prominent queer woman taking her own life due to nonstop harassment?
So fucking sick of this fandom. We're not progressive. We're not a safe space. I honestly wonder if we even deserve to exist at this point.
Against my better judgment, I'm leaving comments open on this one. But any snippy lectures on my "lack of personal responsibility" will be met with a crocodilian death roll. Enough is enough.
I've come to a realization
Posted 4 months agoThe refrain you always hear about the furry fandom is: "We're such a safe and welcoming community! We always stand up for people in need! Trans, non-binary, and neurodivergent people are safe here! Also we did such a good job kicking out the Nazi furs!"
From what I've been seeing over the past couple years, and especially over the past couple months: This is only true for smaller subdivisions of the community. On the whole, the furry fandom panders to white cis queer men and the occasional he/they enby, and fuck everyone else. Casual racism. Casual transphobia. Casual misogyny. Casual ableism.
Casual dismissal and harassment of multiply marginalized people trying to speak up about their experiences and what's been hurting them.
Casual "oh it's fine to support FNaF, A Fox in Space, Zootopia, and Harry Potter, and if you say otherwise, you're being mean to whatever form of marginalized I happen to be :( :( :( :(" (I know current events are partly my fault because I faved fanart of Monty Gator. I hate myself for it.)
Casual "we're not going to remove bigots and right-wingers from the community or ask people to stop casual shitty behavior, because that's just ~politics and drama~. oh but we're still a safe space :) :) :) :)"
And now casual "I shouldn't have to put tags or alt text on my submissions because fuck consideration for others! I should be able to brag about how I want to filter out the genitalia I don't like, and fuck anyone who isn't cis who objects to this! I should be able to use the H-word and the 8-letter 4chan anime F-word as much as I want, and actually I'm trans and/or enby but NOT intersex, that means you have to listen to me and fuck everyone else in my community! It's the same as reclaiming queer and the f-slur :) :) :) :)"
I'm so fucking sick of people refusing to listen to me because "I wasn't nice enough," when these same people talk out of the other side of their mouths about how "callouts are important for us all to improve." I'm fucking sick of people refusing to listen to me because I'm having trouble communicating perfectly when I'm overwhelmed with current events and people being assholes at the same time.
And above all, I'm sick of people waggling their fingers at me and telling me I need to learn responsibility. Furry fandom, especially furry cis gays and he/they enbies: take your own fucking advice. Be responsible with your own behavior, clean up your act, and maybe take some time to think about things you don't want to think about for once.
Do not ask me for further context on this right now. I'm angry and exhausted. I don't want to go completely unhinged.
From what I've been seeing over the past couple years, and especially over the past couple months: This is only true for smaller subdivisions of the community. On the whole, the furry fandom panders to white cis queer men and the occasional he/they enby, and fuck everyone else. Casual racism. Casual transphobia. Casual misogyny. Casual ableism.
Casual dismissal and harassment of multiply marginalized people trying to speak up about their experiences and what's been hurting them.
Casual "oh it's fine to support FNaF, A Fox in Space, Zootopia, and Harry Potter, and if you say otherwise, you're being mean to whatever form of marginalized I happen to be :( :( :( :(" (I know current events are partly my fault because I faved fanart of Monty Gator. I hate myself for it.)
Casual "we're not going to remove bigots and right-wingers from the community or ask people to stop casual shitty behavior, because that's just ~politics and drama~. oh but we're still a safe space :) :) :) :)"
And now casual "I shouldn't have to put tags or alt text on my submissions because fuck consideration for others! I should be able to brag about how I want to filter out the genitalia I don't like, and fuck anyone who isn't cis who objects to this! I should be able to use the H-word and the 8-letter 4chan anime F-word as much as I want, and actually I'm trans and/or enby but NOT intersex, that means you have to listen to me and fuck everyone else in my community! It's the same as reclaiming queer and the f-slur :) :) :) :)"
I'm so fucking sick of people refusing to listen to me because "I wasn't nice enough," when these same people talk out of the other side of their mouths about how "callouts are important for us all to improve." I'm fucking sick of people refusing to listen to me because I'm having trouble communicating perfectly when I'm overwhelmed with current events and people being assholes at the same time.
And above all, I'm sick of people waggling their fingers at me and telling me I need to learn responsibility. Furry fandom, especially furry cis gays and he/they enbies: take your own fucking advice. Be responsible with your own behavior, clean up your act, and maybe take some time to think about things you don't want to think about for once.
Do not ask me for further context on this right now. I'm angry and exhausted. I don't want to go completely unhinged.
Beh. I snoz.
Posted 5 months agoExistence is tiring. Time to crash sleep. 💤
Hopefully I will be refreshed and less frustrated soon.
Hopefully I will be refreshed and less frustrated soon.
Hoo boy. Developments.
Posted 5 months agoHoo boy. There have been developments in the Atlyss situation over on Bluesky.
I'll open up with this. I'll admit, I was so caught up in feeling upset at my friend being shamed and dismissed that I downplayed the nastier messages and reviews Kiseff was getting. A random stranger gave me compassionate but constructive criticism on this point. I have since left a positive review, containing more constructive comments on the situation, asking people to be considerate of both Kiseff and the fat LGBTQ community. And honestly? If I need to, I'm willing to personally apologize to Kiseff for downplaying the nasty comments they got.
Who I'm not willing to apologize to, on the other hand, are all the other random strangers on Bluesky, who are honestly engaging in borderline harassment at this point.
Particularly not the person who congratulated a generic "I always knew the Atlyss drama was fake" reply with the smarmiest infantilizing language, clearly directed as a "haha I'm not touching you" jab at fat LGBTQ people concerned with what the situation appeared to be at first. They did this in a thread that my friend spoke up in. I had reason to believe their comment was helping contribute to the anxiety spiral my friend was having. So I told the smarmy reply person to cut the shit, and that as a non-binary person themselves, they should know better than to be smarmy and dismissive of fat women and LGBTQ people. I refrained from mentioning my friend by name, because I didn't trust this person to not turn against her and start straight-up harassing her. Of course I'm not going to let that happen.
Unfortunately, the sacred faerie kingdom rules of Bluesky, Twitter, and Tumblr discourse are that you never ever say things like "as a non-binary person, you should know better." While such cheap tactics should be avoided most of the time, I genuinely believe that if someone is being particularly hurtful or contributing to greater harm-- like in this case-- it's fair play. Smarmy reply person also decided that, because I wasn't naming who these fat women and LGBTQ people were, I was lying and acting in bad faith just to pat myself on the back.
This was their justification for blowing up my notifications with complete and utter vitriol. 12 Bluesky posts' worth of accusations that I left nasty comments on Atlyss, snapping that I'm "a predator who saw blood in the water," "a dishonest bad-faith hypocrite," and ended the whole thing off with a lecture on "personal responsibility," which in this case pretty obviously meant "apologize for snapping back at my abuse and do what I want."
Since they were willing to escalate that badly, I responded in kind. Told them how all they were accusing me of is bullshit, that just because marginalized people aren't responding to them directly doesn't mean they can't see their smarmy comments, and that the only "predator who saw blood in the water" here was the smarmy reply person themselves. Also told them to go back to 2013 anti-SJW world with their usage of the phrases "crybullying" and "hurt fee-fees," and that they don't get to cry abuse when someone gives them a wake-up call on their own behavior.
Smarmy reply person didn't want to take what they dished out, and did one last snip of me being a "narcissistic abuser" before blocking me. Honestly, good riddance to that fucking garbage. (Side note: We really should start using a term besides "narcissistic abuser" that doesn't stigmatize people with personality disorders and shift blame to them. Statistically, they're more likely to be abuse victims than abusers.)
But they're not the only one. A twitch streamer got snippy with me for saying we need to prioritize being considerate to the fat LGBTQ community and not blaming them for the misunderstanding. I got counter-snippy back at them. Their audience has been getting on my case for the last few days, though thankfully not as explosively as the smarmy reply person. Still, there's only so many times you can hear "you have no right to break the sacred faerie kingdom rule of Bsky discourse," "no one is blaming or harassing fat people" (factually and demonstrably false), "I'm fat and I knew better than to leave negative reviews and spread misinformation" (congratulations on being One Of The Good Ones assholes), and "learn some personal responsibility" before you get sick of it. The most recent person thought they were being cute by invoking Bojack Horseman and Todd Chavez. You can probably guess the clip :P
Bonus points go to the guy who told me I was "having a petulant little meltdown." I told them to stop invoking terms that the autistic community is trying to reclaim to mock people who are upset for valid reasons, before pre-empting the possibility of their saying "actually I'm autistic too and I would never act like you." Not only did the guy go on to effectively say that, but his buddy proceeded to interpret the situation as me mocking his buddy's autism. And these stream chat dumbasses said I was being deliberately obtuse >:P
Fun side note: most of these reply guys were men or on the masc side of non-binary. I wonder how they would've acted if, say, someone made a bad-faith vent post on the most rancid part of the internet, saying their ex-girlfriend slept her way to success, and the whole thing cascaded into a massive harassment campaign against women and trans people. It's not like that's ever happened in real life, right? It's not like another part of the reason I'm being so insistent on this issue is to avoid my past mistake on being a passive fence-sitter to such an issue back in the day, right? :) :) :) :)
I'll open up with this. I'll admit, I was so caught up in feeling upset at my friend being shamed and dismissed that I downplayed the nastier messages and reviews Kiseff was getting. A random stranger gave me compassionate but constructive criticism on this point. I have since left a positive review, containing more constructive comments on the situation, asking people to be considerate of both Kiseff and the fat LGBTQ community. And honestly? If I need to, I'm willing to personally apologize to Kiseff for downplaying the nasty comments they got.
Who I'm not willing to apologize to, on the other hand, are all the other random strangers on Bluesky, who are honestly engaging in borderline harassment at this point.
Particularly not the person who congratulated a generic "I always knew the Atlyss drama was fake" reply with the smarmiest infantilizing language, clearly directed as a "haha I'm not touching you" jab at fat LGBTQ people concerned with what the situation appeared to be at first. They did this in a thread that my friend spoke up in. I had reason to believe their comment was helping contribute to the anxiety spiral my friend was having. So I told the smarmy reply person to cut the shit, and that as a non-binary person themselves, they should know better than to be smarmy and dismissive of fat women and LGBTQ people. I refrained from mentioning my friend by name, because I didn't trust this person to not turn against her and start straight-up harassing her. Of course I'm not going to let that happen.
Unfortunately, the sacred faerie kingdom rules of Bluesky, Twitter, and Tumblr discourse are that you never ever say things like "as a non-binary person, you should know better." While such cheap tactics should be avoided most of the time, I genuinely believe that if someone is being particularly hurtful or contributing to greater harm-- like in this case-- it's fair play. Smarmy reply person also decided that, because I wasn't naming who these fat women and LGBTQ people were, I was lying and acting in bad faith just to pat myself on the back.
This was their justification for blowing up my notifications with complete and utter vitriol. 12 Bluesky posts' worth of accusations that I left nasty comments on Atlyss, snapping that I'm "a predator who saw blood in the water," "a dishonest bad-faith hypocrite," and ended the whole thing off with a lecture on "personal responsibility," which in this case pretty obviously meant "apologize for snapping back at my abuse and do what I want."
Since they were willing to escalate that badly, I responded in kind. Told them how all they were accusing me of is bullshit, that just because marginalized people aren't responding to them directly doesn't mean they can't see their smarmy comments, and that the only "predator who saw blood in the water" here was the smarmy reply person themselves. Also told them to go back to 2013 anti-SJW world with their usage of the phrases "crybullying" and "hurt fee-fees," and that they don't get to cry abuse when someone gives them a wake-up call on their own behavior.
Smarmy reply person didn't want to take what they dished out, and did one last snip of me being a "narcissistic abuser" before blocking me. Honestly, good riddance to that fucking garbage. (Side note: We really should start using a term besides "narcissistic abuser" that doesn't stigmatize people with personality disorders and shift blame to them. Statistically, they're more likely to be abuse victims than abusers.)
But they're not the only one. A twitch streamer got snippy with me for saying we need to prioritize being considerate to the fat LGBTQ community and not blaming them for the misunderstanding. I got counter-snippy back at them. Their audience has been getting on my case for the last few days, though thankfully not as explosively as the smarmy reply person. Still, there's only so many times you can hear "you have no right to break the sacred faerie kingdom rule of Bsky discourse," "no one is blaming or harassing fat people" (factually and demonstrably false), "I'm fat and I knew better than to leave negative reviews and spread misinformation" (congratulations on being One Of The Good Ones assholes), and "learn some personal responsibility" before you get sick of it. The most recent person thought they were being cute by invoking Bojack Horseman and Todd Chavez. You can probably guess the clip :P
Bonus points go to the guy who told me I was "having a petulant little meltdown." I told them to stop invoking terms that the autistic community is trying to reclaim to mock people who are upset for valid reasons, before pre-empting the possibility of their saying "actually I'm autistic too and I would never act like you." Not only did the guy go on to effectively say that, but his buddy proceeded to interpret the situation as me mocking his buddy's autism. And these stream chat dumbasses said I was being deliberately obtuse >:P
Fun side note: most of these reply guys were men or on the masc side of non-binary. I wonder how they would've acted if, say, someone made a bad-faith vent post on the most rancid part of the internet, saying their ex-girlfriend slept her way to success, and the whole thing cascaded into a massive harassment campaign against women and trans people. It's not like that's ever happened in real life, right? It's not like another part of the reason I'm being so insistent on this issue is to avoid my past mistake on being a passive fence-sitter to such an issue back in the day, right? :) :) :) :)
On the Atlyss controversy, and a concerning trend as of late
Posted 5 months agoI'm sure you've heard, at the very least, that people are upset about Atlyss. This is going to get a bit political, be forewarned.
Here's the situation as I understand it: A few months ago, one person had a stick up their ass about boob sliders and harassed Kesiff, the lead dev of Atlyss, about it. Kesiff understandably got snippy with their harasser, saying "if the sliders as-is bother you that much, just use mods." The situation was dealt with and the conversation deleted from their discord for stress management. The original harasser in this case is an inexcusable asshole, and I have no sympathy for them.
Fast forward to the present. Kesiff is testing fixes to the body size sliders due to armor clipping issues, and is rolling out the changes to beta testers. This results in larger belly sizes being unavailable to the beta testers for a time. This is misunderstood as Kesiff removing fat bodies from the game, resulting in angry social media posts and negative reviews. A contextless screencap of the "just use mods" comment worsened the misunderstanding, but was later corrected and given proper context.
However. While this was a misunderstanding, it was a completely understandable one. If you've been fat for most of your life, hearing that fat people don't deserve accomodations and that they're too much of a pain to make clothes for, you're going to feel defensive if it sounds like yet another person is excluding fat people for the same old reasons. I should know. I'm fat myself. This is not malicious, nor is it "making a smear campaign," nor is it "review bombing."
A wonderful person who has been very supportive of me during recent times, who is a fat trans woman-- therefore giving her life experiences that I have some of but not others-- was hurt by the wider internet's response to this controversy. She was hurt by people lumping her in and dismissing her as "a self-righteous internet harasser," "a degenerate gooner who just wants big boobies," and "a fatfur mad that their fetish isn't being pandered to." These kinds of remarks are not okay. And I'm not going to stand by and let her and her community suffer alone.
Especially when so many people are getting all self-righteous about "you all need to stop harassing indie devs and ruining their careers," when developers who include even token mentions of trans people, or try to be more inclusive of women and people of color, get worse harassment and actual review bombs. This is not deflecting the issue. This is pointing out a real double standard that's being applied here. It becomes clear that this response doesn't come from a place of genuine care for marginalized people or harassment victims. It comes from a place of single-mindedly defending your gaming opinions, and reactionary anger at being asked to listen to people who are marginalized in ways that you are not and self-reflect. And these people have the nerve to say people like me and the friend who inspired me to write this are the reactionary ones.
But to make matters worse: this isn't the only example of people taking a messy conflict (by which I mean an actual messy conflict, not just "people who are politically to the left of me are making me uncomfortable, uwu no pawlitics")-- and deciding that only one side of it is right and anyone who isn't on the "right" side entirely is acting in bad faith and has no good reasons for the position they hold. It's been happening way more often recently.
The same incredibly supportive friend I've mentioned earlier, along with her girlfriend (who has been similarly supportive), have been the target of sustained harassment for over a year. The harassment originates from a person who unfortunately suffered sexual abuse from someone in a community they trusted. To be clear: this sexual abuse is unacceptable and should never have happened. However. This person decided that they were justified in targeting a particular mod from the community, a non-binary person who had previously been harassed themselves for reasons couched in righteous fury, and therefore was an easy target. To make matters worse, the harasser had a stick up his ass about people blocking him, which is how my friends became his next targets.
This is not okay. People have accused my friends of being pedophile sympathizers, knowing that accusing trans people of pedophilia is a common smear tactic to justify their harassment and even death, while self-righteously justifying themselves by saying: "Well, the harasser is trans too. I'm listening and learning to the trans community." That's not how this works. You can't just pick the member of a marginalized group that makes you feel the least defensive and self-reflecting. You have to take in more perspectives than just that, and be open to the possibility that the member who makes you the least uncomfortable might be wrong.
On a similar note, a few years ago, a white trans woman tried to reclaim the shitty transphobic "attack helicopter" meme in a sci-fi short story. Unfortunately, she did so in a messy way that kinda fetishized US military imperialism. It should come as no surprise that many trans people, particularly trans women of color and trans people from outside the Western world, were hurt by her story. Unfortunately, at the same time, other people in the sci-fi and fantasy literature communities, many of them cis people, bombarded the author with angry messages and defamation until she had a catastrophic breakdown. The latter group is guilty of harassment, and this is not okay.
However. What's also not okay is saying that the trans women and trans people of color who were hurt by the story were complicit in the harassment. Especially with guilt-tripping language that makes it sound like they committed an unforgivable crime. Especially when people start insinuating that black people are entirely and unilaterally privileged over white trans people, after talking about the nuance of social dynamics out of the other side of their mouth.
Why is this so personal to me, you might ask? Because someone who was my friend for seven years reblogged an article with this kind of guilt-trippy language against the trans people who were hurt by the helicopter story. Unfortunately, I was in a rather foul anxiety mood when I came across the article, and I snapped at them about it in our DMs. Their response to this was to ghost me for two months. In the meantime, they proceeded to dive down a rabbit hole of defending AI art, eating up crypto-fascist bullshit from the leftovers of 4chan, and being skeezy about anime girls. I blocked them after those two months.
I'm seeing the state of the world get worse by the week. And I'm tired of having to keep quiet about it so as not to step on "no pawlitics" people's eggshells. I want to at least try to make things better by saying what I truly believe is right. This might not be much, but at least it's something.
Here's the situation as I understand it: A few months ago, one person had a stick up their ass about boob sliders and harassed Kesiff, the lead dev of Atlyss, about it. Kesiff understandably got snippy with their harasser, saying "if the sliders as-is bother you that much, just use mods." The situation was dealt with and the conversation deleted from their discord for stress management. The original harasser in this case is an inexcusable asshole, and I have no sympathy for them.
Fast forward to the present. Kesiff is testing fixes to the body size sliders due to armor clipping issues, and is rolling out the changes to beta testers. This results in larger belly sizes being unavailable to the beta testers for a time. This is misunderstood as Kesiff removing fat bodies from the game, resulting in angry social media posts and negative reviews. A contextless screencap of the "just use mods" comment worsened the misunderstanding, but was later corrected and given proper context.
However. While this was a misunderstanding, it was a completely understandable one. If you've been fat for most of your life, hearing that fat people don't deserve accomodations and that they're too much of a pain to make clothes for, you're going to feel defensive if it sounds like yet another person is excluding fat people for the same old reasons. I should know. I'm fat myself. This is not malicious, nor is it "making a smear campaign," nor is it "review bombing."
A wonderful person who has been very supportive of me during recent times, who is a fat trans woman-- therefore giving her life experiences that I have some of but not others-- was hurt by the wider internet's response to this controversy. She was hurt by people lumping her in and dismissing her as "a self-righteous internet harasser," "a degenerate gooner who just wants big boobies," and "a fatfur mad that their fetish isn't being pandered to." These kinds of remarks are not okay. And I'm not going to stand by and let her and her community suffer alone.
Especially when so many people are getting all self-righteous about "you all need to stop harassing indie devs and ruining their careers," when developers who include even token mentions of trans people, or try to be more inclusive of women and people of color, get worse harassment and actual review bombs. This is not deflecting the issue. This is pointing out a real double standard that's being applied here. It becomes clear that this response doesn't come from a place of genuine care for marginalized people or harassment victims. It comes from a place of single-mindedly defending your gaming opinions, and reactionary anger at being asked to listen to people who are marginalized in ways that you are not and self-reflect. And these people have the nerve to say people like me and the friend who inspired me to write this are the reactionary ones.
But to make matters worse: this isn't the only example of people taking a messy conflict (by which I mean an actual messy conflict, not just "people who are politically to the left of me are making me uncomfortable, uwu no pawlitics")-- and deciding that only one side of it is right and anyone who isn't on the "right" side entirely is acting in bad faith and has no good reasons for the position they hold. It's been happening way more often recently.
The same incredibly supportive friend I've mentioned earlier, along with her girlfriend (who has been similarly supportive), have been the target of sustained harassment for over a year. The harassment originates from a person who unfortunately suffered sexual abuse from someone in a community they trusted. To be clear: this sexual abuse is unacceptable and should never have happened. However. This person decided that they were justified in targeting a particular mod from the community, a non-binary person who had previously been harassed themselves for reasons couched in righteous fury, and therefore was an easy target. To make matters worse, the harasser had a stick up his ass about people blocking him, which is how my friends became his next targets.
This is not okay. People have accused my friends of being pedophile sympathizers, knowing that accusing trans people of pedophilia is a common smear tactic to justify their harassment and even death, while self-righteously justifying themselves by saying: "Well, the harasser is trans too. I'm listening and learning to the trans community." That's not how this works. You can't just pick the member of a marginalized group that makes you feel the least defensive and self-reflecting. You have to take in more perspectives than just that, and be open to the possibility that the member who makes you the least uncomfortable might be wrong.
On a similar note, a few years ago, a white trans woman tried to reclaim the shitty transphobic "attack helicopter" meme in a sci-fi short story. Unfortunately, she did so in a messy way that kinda fetishized US military imperialism. It should come as no surprise that many trans people, particularly trans women of color and trans people from outside the Western world, were hurt by her story. Unfortunately, at the same time, other people in the sci-fi and fantasy literature communities, many of them cis people, bombarded the author with angry messages and defamation until she had a catastrophic breakdown. The latter group is guilty of harassment, and this is not okay.
However. What's also not okay is saying that the trans women and trans people of color who were hurt by the story were complicit in the harassment. Especially with guilt-tripping language that makes it sound like they committed an unforgivable crime. Especially when people start insinuating that black people are entirely and unilaterally privileged over white trans people, after talking about the nuance of social dynamics out of the other side of their mouth.
Why is this so personal to me, you might ask? Because someone who was my friend for seven years reblogged an article with this kind of guilt-trippy language against the trans people who were hurt by the helicopter story. Unfortunately, I was in a rather foul anxiety mood when I came across the article, and I snapped at them about it in our DMs. Their response to this was to ghost me for two months. In the meantime, they proceeded to dive down a rabbit hole of defending AI art, eating up crypto-fascist bullshit from the leftovers of 4chan, and being skeezy about anime girls. I blocked them after those two months.
I'm seeing the state of the world get worse by the week. And I'm tired of having to keep quiet about it so as not to step on "no pawlitics" people's eggshells. I want to at least try to make things better by saying what I truly believe is right. This might not be much, but at least it's something.
Post-FA Downtime Spaghetti Update
Posted 6 months agoFA returns at long last. Rejoice \ o /
The past month has been a bit of a wild ride, for numerous reasons. However, I did manage to make a small breakthrough in OC organization thanks to stim-listening to music, and a couple of introspective self-exploration sessions. It's no longer a metaphorical entire pot of spaghetti 👍
In the meantime, I've made a personal Refsheet dot net page to help me organize things. It does have the disadvantage of needing to get online to be able to access it, but the custom categorized lists on the character profile pages are really helpful! I'm still working on getting it looking presentable, though.
Right now, the cast is in a state of "has a couple of solid core groups with plenty of room to expand, but I want to get the first 20-30 fellos fleshed out and organized before I expand further." Which is a step up from the overwhelming state it was in previously 👍
The past month has been a bit of a wild ride, for numerous reasons. However, I did manage to make a small breakthrough in OC organization thanks to stim-listening to music, and a couple of introspective self-exploration sessions. It's no longer a metaphorical entire pot of spaghetti 👍
In the meantime, I've made a personal Refsheet dot net page to help me organize things. It does have the disadvantage of needing to get online to be able to access it, but the custom categorized lists on the character profile pages are really helpful! I'm still working on getting it looking presentable, though.
Right now, the cast is in a state of "has a couple of solid core groups with plenty of room to expand, but I want to get the first 20-30 fellos fleshed out and organized before I expand further." Which is a step up from the overwhelming state it was in previously 👍
The curse of throwing OC idea spaghetti at the wall
Posted 7 months agoFeel like I'm kind of spinning my wheels in place as far as OC and setting building goes. Maybe writing a ramble journal about it will help me work through my thoughts.
I've been trying to build up my furry OC cast since early 2020. Pandemic countermeasures and unpleasant home life kinda threw a wrench in those plans for a couple of years. It wasn't until I got a chance to stay with relatives in a different city in 2023-- and on top of that, got a new laptop because my old one's charger plug port broke-- that I really had the chance to decompress and feel comfortable writing down and organizing OC concepts.
Unfortunately, I feel like I've been stuck in the "throw concepts at the wall like spaghetti and see what sticks" phase of creation for the past year and a half. I've made at least 7 different spreadsheets trying to build up the cast. None of them have turned out quite right. Recently I tried making flowcharts on draw.io to make a "world map" of significant places to the cast and their backstories, with just relative compass directions so as not to overwhelm myself with distance scaling and landform shaping. It felt rewarding, but I still haven't hit the sweet spot of what I want the setting to be like.
There are some core groups of OCs I'm 100% sure I want in my cast. Problem is, I'm not sure how to accommodate all of them in the same setting. There's a giant mixture of Pokémon and IRL animal-based furries, as well as a mixture of fantasy and modern-day-with-sci-fi-elements. It's something I'm sure can work, partly in thanks to a wonderful and supportive furry stream community I recently joined. They also have OC settings with similar mixtures. I just want my setting to be a bit smaller scale than an entire planet. That's the tough part.
Unfortunately, there comes a point where there are a bunch of animals/Pokémon I really want to incorporate, but my meatbrain starts yelling at me that I'm hoarding OC concepts. Then I start comparing myself to an overly demanding child wanting to collect toys, and I lose a lot of my motivation. This is especially frustrating because I feel like I'm on a tight time limit. A lot of people in the fandom got their start making their OC settings very early in young adulthood, sometimes even carrying things over from earlier in their lives. I only just started this in my late 20s. I'm now in my early 30s. If I don't end up with a fleshed-out cast and setting within the next several years, people are going to be creeped out at someone older than 37 (arbitrary number my meatbrain picked) making self-indulgent OC adventures with their sona being in an earlier stage of their life than they are IRL. I don't want these hypothetical people to be right in being creeped out at this, but the possibility that they might be right scares me.
I know the counterargument of a lot of artists and authors finishing their first works in their late 30s and/or their 40s. But it feels different when it's a professional and/or published artist who can be self-indulgent, but it feels like they're showing restraint to at least some degree; vs. a random internet person, out of practice with creative pursuits due to IRL struggles, where it's kinda obvious that they're being super self-indulgent.
You can understand why I'm feeling kinda desperate to make progress here. But I'm still stuck in the spaghetti-throwing stage in a lot of places. Beh.
If you made it all the way through this ramble journal, thanks for letting me get my thoughts out there. I appreciate it.
I've been trying to build up my furry OC cast since early 2020. Pandemic countermeasures and unpleasant home life kinda threw a wrench in those plans for a couple of years. It wasn't until I got a chance to stay with relatives in a different city in 2023-- and on top of that, got a new laptop because my old one's charger plug port broke-- that I really had the chance to decompress and feel comfortable writing down and organizing OC concepts.
Unfortunately, I feel like I've been stuck in the "throw concepts at the wall like spaghetti and see what sticks" phase of creation for the past year and a half. I've made at least 7 different spreadsheets trying to build up the cast. None of them have turned out quite right. Recently I tried making flowcharts on draw.io to make a "world map" of significant places to the cast and their backstories, with just relative compass directions so as not to overwhelm myself with distance scaling and landform shaping. It felt rewarding, but I still haven't hit the sweet spot of what I want the setting to be like.
There are some core groups of OCs I'm 100% sure I want in my cast. Problem is, I'm not sure how to accommodate all of them in the same setting. There's a giant mixture of Pokémon and IRL animal-based furries, as well as a mixture of fantasy and modern-day-with-sci-fi-elements. It's something I'm sure can work, partly in thanks to a wonderful and supportive furry stream community I recently joined. They also have OC settings with similar mixtures. I just want my setting to be a bit smaller scale than an entire planet. That's the tough part.
Unfortunately, there comes a point where there are a bunch of animals/Pokémon I really want to incorporate, but my meatbrain starts yelling at me that I'm hoarding OC concepts. Then I start comparing myself to an overly demanding child wanting to collect toys, and I lose a lot of my motivation. This is especially frustrating because I feel like I'm on a tight time limit. A lot of people in the fandom got their start making their OC settings very early in young adulthood, sometimes even carrying things over from earlier in their lives. I only just started this in my late 20s. I'm now in my early 30s. If I don't end up with a fleshed-out cast and setting within the next several years, people are going to be creeped out at someone older than 37 (arbitrary number my meatbrain picked) making self-indulgent OC adventures with their sona being in an earlier stage of their life than they are IRL. I don't want these hypothetical people to be right in being creeped out at this, but the possibility that they might be right scares me.
I know the counterargument of a lot of artists and authors finishing their first works in their late 30s and/or their 40s. But it feels different when it's a professional and/or published artist who can be self-indulgent, but it feels like they're showing restraint to at least some degree; vs. a random internet person, out of practice with creative pursuits due to IRL struggles, where it's kinda obvious that they're being super self-indulgent.
You can understand why I'm feeling kinda desperate to make progress here. But I'm still stuck in the spaghetti-throwing stage in a lot of places. Beh.
If you made it all the way through this ramble journal, thanks for letting me get my thoughts out there. I appreciate it.
It's Septeber (Personal Update)
Posted a year agoTime to SPRING your jorts
Back into JANTS :P
But ye, I've kinda been doing my best to hang in there as of late. I have... not exactly been feeling well for large chunks of the past August. I had to deploy the new anxiety meds I got prescribed for emergency use in intense periods :')
In the meantime, I've been trying to organize my thoughts about all the OCs and lore I want to make. Spreadsheets and a MtG proxy card maker have abounded. I even have a smol outline of "TCG blocks" that would make up the adventures everyone goes through to meet each other. Unfortunately, I feel a bit insecure because I'm kind of a hoarder of concepts. Over 70 ideas for OCs in my generic furry setting, and that's not counting Pokémon or potential Digimon OCs :')
Making some of them characters from in-universe video games (I'm thinking a rough equivalent of classic Shining Force and an "oops all birds" Zelda-like) helps it feel slightly less overwhelming. But only slightly.
I might also have more budget for commissions soon. Convenient for the upcoming spooky season. Pumpkins return >:)
I just need to get past the executive dysfunction and social anxiety to do so o7
Back into JANTS :P
But ye, I've kinda been doing my best to hang in there as of late. I have... not exactly been feeling well for large chunks of the past August. I had to deploy the new anxiety meds I got prescribed for emergency use in intense periods :')
In the meantime, I've been trying to organize my thoughts about all the OCs and lore I want to make. Spreadsheets and a MtG proxy card maker have abounded. I even have a smol outline of "TCG blocks" that would make up the adventures everyone goes through to meet each other. Unfortunately, I feel a bit insecure because I'm kind of a hoarder of concepts. Over 70 ideas for OCs in my generic furry setting, and that's not counting Pokémon or potential Digimon OCs :')
Making some of them characters from in-universe video games (I'm thinking a rough equivalent of classic Shining Force and an "oops all birds" Zelda-like) helps it feel slightly less overwhelming. But only slightly.
I might also have more budget for commissions soon. Convenient for the upcoming spooky season. Pumpkins return >:)
I just need to get past the executive dysfunction and social anxiety to do so o7
Two occasions to celebrate :O
Posted a year agoPride Month the first 🏳️🌈 🩷💜💙 🖤🩶🤍💜
(plus solidarity with 🏳️⚧️ 💛🤍💜🖤 and many others :D)
But also: Hot Bird Summer
🐦⬛🐓🦅🦉🦚🦜 👀💦
(plus solidarity with 🏳️⚧️ 💛🤍💜🖤 and many others :D)
But also: Hot Bird Summer
🐦⬛🐓🦅🦉🦚🦜 👀💦
Update hours again
Posted a year agoForgive the month-long radio silence followed by giant favspam explosions. I spent the better part of February dealing with horrible infections that may or may not have been Pseudomonas, then after I got a small relaxation break early in the month, my family ended up having another medical emergency on top of that. As you can imagine, it did not have the best impact on my mental health D:
I should hopefully be a bit more active on here for the near future, but I'm still kinda recovering, so it might be more favspams and fewer comments for a bit D:
I should hopefully be a bit more active on here for the near future, but I'm still kinda recovering, so it might be more favspams and fewer comments for a bit D:
Point of Advice
Posted a year agoIf your response to someone kicking you out of a stream in a way you think is unfair is to spam the follow and unfollow buttons on the one platform they forgot to block you on and blow up their DMs... maybe. just possibly. They didn't kick you out unfairly. Especially not when you have a long and storied history of this kind of behavior. And we're not even getting into what happens when you start talking politics 😬
Point of advice to everyone else: Do not trust people who act this way. Do not let them interact with you. Do not let them commission you. It's more trouble than it's worth, and I don't want you to have to go through this either.
Update: So it turns out it wasn't DMs. I assumed it was because I thought it was the most likely explanation for the follow button spam, but I didn't have any DMs in my inbox. Which means it was either whispers or just the follow button spam. My bad on that. Still, follow button spam is still wildly inappropriate behavior no matter what 😬
Point of advice to everyone else: Do not trust people who act this way. Do not let them interact with you. Do not let them commission you. It's more trouble than it's worth, and I don't want you to have to go through this either.
Update: So it turns out it wasn't DMs. I assumed it was because I thought it was the most likely explanation for the follow button spam, but I didn't have any DMs in my inbox. Which means it was either whispers or just the follow button spam. My bad on that. Still, follow button spam is still wildly inappropriate behavior no matter what 😬
You know what would be really nice?
Posted a year agoYou know what would be really fucking nice?
If furry kink niches were a bit pickier about who they let in. Because there's always people with fucking rancid politics, or people who like to harass others with requests for art/RP/screencaps of the niche kink. And some of these people think they're entitled to interact with whoever they want and throw a whiny fit when someone rightly sees that they're a dick and don't want anything to do with them.
It gets even worse when said rancid politics and harassment people have good standing within the niche kink community. Sometimes they end up having the monopoly on a niche kink because they obsessively chronicle it (and I thank god they're not here on FA because the entire content of their DA would be against FA's ToS). Sometimes they get really popular for their commissions, their rancid political posts are just brushed under the rug, and someone you trusted who puts on a big show about how progressive they are gets one of those commissions.
And sometimes they barge in on your buddy's twitch stream out of nowhere, you recognize them for being a troublesome person and nip that shit in the bud, and then you get in trouble for banning them because "you didn't consult your buddy first" and "it looks like you just banned them for no reason." There is a fucking reason I banned them, I shouldn't have to fucking overexplain why I did it, and if anyone has a problem with me banning a person who is prone to bigotry and harassment, maybe they're not welcome on your stream either. Goddamn.
I'm not saying we have to be all politics all the time. But we can't avoid it entirely. And sometimes, if you want a community to be healthy and welcoming, you need to kick out the people who are being shitters. And if they refuse to learn their lesson and spend the rest of their lives alone and miserable over it... good. They fucking deserve it.
I'm not naming any names because first of all FA ToS, and second of all I don't want to be known as "the guy who started a harassment campaign." Would be pretty hypocritical of me if I complained about harassment then encouraged it myself.
What else would be really nice is if my life in general stopped going completely to fucking shit. How fucking fair is it that I have to be miserable and irritable constantly, and keep putting off and putting off things I want to do because both my forms of OCD keep getting set off? And yet shitty people get to feel happy and get what they want and not feel the same misery? Fuck all of this.
If furry kink niches were a bit pickier about who they let in. Because there's always people with fucking rancid politics, or people who like to harass others with requests for art/RP/screencaps of the niche kink. And some of these people think they're entitled to interact with whoever they want and throw a whiny fit when someone rightly sees that they're a dick and don't want anything to do with them.
It gets even worse when said rancid politics and harassment people have good standing within the niche kink community. Sometimes they end up having the monopoly on a niche kink because they obsessively chronicle it (and I thank god they're not here on FA because the entire content of their DA would be against FA's ToS). Sometimes they get really popular for their commissions, their rancid political posts are just brushed under the rug, and someone you trusted who puts on a big show about how progressive they are gets one of those commissions.
And sometimes they barge in on your buddy's twitch stream out of nowhere, you recognize them for being a troublesome person and nip that shit in the bud, and then you get in trouble for banning them because "you didn't consult your buddy first" and "it looks like you just banned them for no reason." There is a fucking reason I banned them, I shouldn't have to fucking overexplain why I did it, and if anyone has a problem with me banning a person who is prone to bigotry and harassment, maybe they're not welcome on your stream either. Goddamn.
I'm not saying we have to be all politics all the time. But we can't avoid it entirely. And sometimes, if you want a community to be healthy and welcoming, you need to kick out the people who are being shitters. And if they refuse to learn their lesson and spend the rest of their lives alone and miserable over it... good. They fucking deserve it.
I'm not naming any names because first of all FA ToS, and second of all I don't want to be known as "the guy who started a harassment campaign." Would be pretty hypocritical of me if I complained about harassment then encouraged it myself.
What else would be really nice is if my life in general stopped going completely to fucking shit. How fucking fair is it that I have to be miserable and irritable constantly, and keep putting off and putting off things I want to do because both my forms of OCD keep getting set off? And yet shitty people get to feel happy and get what they want and not feel the same misery? Fuck all of this.
Obligatory New Year's journal plus upload plans
Posted 2 years agoHappy 2024! The previous year was very much a rollercoaster, but I got a nice chunk of good things out of it. Also, the fact that I came out of my FA hiatus that started midway through Current Events of 2020 has to count for something :P
One of the things I got out of 2023 was... a small hoard of adoptables. 12, to be exact. There's some that I'm not quite sure I have the okay to upload, and also some I don't quite have names for yet. But the ones I have both of those things for will be uploaded soon :O
Also also found some old commissions and pseudo-comms from
TatsuoDaichi that he has kindly given me permission to not only upload, but even try my hand at coloring some of them :O They feature both my OCs and official video gamb furries.
I'm probably gonna try and space out the uploads over several days like I usually do, though. I don't like giving people giant upload bombs D: But ye, hopefully that all goes well.
One of the things I got out of 2023 was... a small hoard of adoptables. 12, to be exact. There's some that I'm not quite sure I have the okay to upload, and also some I don't quite have names for yet. But the ones I have both of those things for will be uploaded soon :O
Also also found some old commissions and pseudo-comms from
TatsuoDaichi that he has kindly given me permission to not only upload, but even try my hand at coloring some of them :O They feature both my OCs and official video gamb furries.I'm probably gonna try and space out the uploads over several days like I usually do, though. I don't like giving people giant upload bombs D: But ye, hopefully that all goes well.
Executive decision to extend spooky season for myself
Posted 2 years agoOr at least a couple aspects of it :P
I did get a couple of kinky pumpkin commissions (one of which is still being worked on, but the artist in question is understandably busy). However, my original plan was to attempt to write a self-indulgent kinky pumpkin scene involving my Charizard OC, and I was unable to do so due to the unfortunate. I don't exactly have the best luck with mental health during October D:
So I might just attempt the story sometime this month, whenever I'm in the right headspace for it. Perhaps it being post-Halloween will be part of the plot :O
The other aspect of spooky season I'm extending into November is looking at nostalgic creepypastas and chuckling at how goofy they were :P
Hopefully this is not overly weird and off-putting to make an FA journal out of.
I did get a couple of kinky pumpkin commissions (one of which is still being worked on, but the artist in question is understandably busy). However, my original plan was to attempt to write a self-indulgent kinky pumpkin scene involving my Charizard OC, and I was unable to do so due to the unfortunate. I don't exactly have the best luck with mental health during October D:
So I might just attempt the story sometime this month, whenever I'm in the right headspace for it. Perhaps it being post-Halloween will be part of the plot :O
The other aspect of spooky season I'm extending into November is looking at nostalgic creepypastas and chuckling at how goofy they were :P
Hopefully this is not overly weird and off-putting to make an FA journal out of.
It's real update hours
Posted 2 years agoRegarding OC development and commission plans, at least :P
So a while back, I made a spreadsheet to conceptualize what kinds of units my OCs would be in a fantasy strategy game. This spiraled out into making spreadsheets of planned OCs for the regular fur setting and the Pokémon AU, because I become an absolute gremlin when spreadsheets are involved. They've added up to... um, a lot. I may be a slight OC hoarder. D: Or at least concepts thereof, they haven't all been fleshed out yet.
Among them are 4 adoptables I've purchased. I've only managed to come up with a name for one of them thus far, which is why I haven't shared any of them yet. Hopefully that will happen soon.
I was hoping to flesh out the Lugia OC from my Pokémon AU enough to get a commission for Lugia's Pokédex number day on Sunday. But I've hit a bit of a rough patch, and... that's obviously not happening. D: Closest thing I could get to that is drawing an MS Paint conspiracy corkboard of the concepts I have so far for him and his close relations, if anyone were interested in seeing that.
Similarly for a Charizard OC and a shiny Charizard counterpart to a regular fur OC for next weekend, which is apparently Charizard Tri-Day and Pokémon Red's release anniversary. I might be able to get some sketchmissions for them, though, albeit probably just them in themed outfits. We'll see how that pans out.
After that, I'm thinking about writing and/or commissioning some self-indulgent pumpkin and/or Halloween stuff for October. Hopefully I'm able to do so, because >:)
Thanks for your patience as I get this disjointed mess of ideas out there, hehehe.
So a while back, I made a spreadsheet to conceptualize what kinds of units my OCs would be in a fantasy strategy game. This spiraled out into making spreadsheets of planned OCs for the regular fur setting and the Pokémon AU, because I become an absolute gremlin when spreadsheets are involved. They've added up to... um, a lot. I may be a slight OC hoarder. D: Or at least concepts thereof, they haven't all been fleshed out yet.
Among them are 4 adoptables I've purchased. I've only managed to come up with a name for one of them thus far, which is why I haven't shared any of them yet. Hopefully that will happen soon.
I was hoping to flesh out the Lugia OC from my Pokémon AU enough to get a commission for Lugia's Pokédex number day on Sunday. But I've hit a bit of a rough patch, and... that's obviously not happening. D: Closest thing I could get to that is drawing an MS Paint conspiracy corkboard of the concepts I have so far for him and his close relations, if anyone were interested in seeing that.
Similarly for a Charizard OC and a shiny Charizard counterpart to a regular fur OC for next weekend, which is apparently Charizard Tri-Day and Pokémon Red's release anniversary. I might be able to get some sketchmissions for them, though, albeit probably just them in themed outfits. We'll see how that pans out.
After that, I'm thinking about writing and/or commissioning some self-indulgent pumpkin and/or Halloween stuff for October. Hopefully I'm able to do so, because >:)
Thanks for your patience as I get this disjointed mess of ideas out there, hehehe.
Pride Month 3
Posted 2 years agoLast favspam of Pride Month 2 for now. Because... it is Pride Month 3 >:)
Thankfully, Digimon Day and Bowser Day are holidays that are fully compatible therewith :D
Thankfully, Digimon Day and Bowser Day are holidays that are fully compatible therewith :D
A question to gauge interest
Posted 2 years agoSo over the past week and a half-ish, I've been typing up a text document with concepts for the cast of my dream furry OC setting. Should I modify this list with more context and legibility and post it in scraps or something?
Fair warning, there's 31 cast members so far, so it would be pretty lengthy. Also it would probably be marked as mature because there's references to kink scenarios in it, though it's not a straight-up list of how I'd kink bully them (that would be an entire separate document :P)
Fair warning, there's 31 cast members so far, so it would be pretty lengthy. Also it would probably be marked as mature because there's references to kink scenarios in it, though it's not a straight-up list of how I'd kink bully them (that would be an entire separate document :P)
At long last
Posted 6 years agoA precious boy
Posted 8 years agoIt's time to clear out a ridiculously old journal from my page in favor of a very nice thing that
Otenkiya did for me. He offered to design me a goatsona to join those of him and some of our other friends. Barry turned out excellent.
You can see him here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/23164911/
Otenkiya did for me. He offered to design me a goatsona to join those of him and some of our other friends. Barry turned out excellent.You can see him here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/23164911/
On a bit of a sea creature craze at the moment
Posted 10 years agoI'm not entirely sure why, but I feel compelled to make rough outlines of anthro sea creature characters. Mostly for future reference since I'm typing this at 2 AM, here's a list of the species I'm considering for this group:
great white shark
hammerhead shark
saw-nosed shark
manta ray
marlin/swordfish
alligator gar
sperm whale
orca
bottlenose dolphin
Admittedly cliché choices on some of them, but no matter. Let's see where this goes...
great white shark
hammerhead shark
saw-nosed shark
manta ray
marlin/swordfish
alligator gar
sperm whale
orca
bottlenose dolphin
Admittedly cliché choices on some of them, but no matter. Let's see where this goes...
Thinking about getting into playing TCGs a bit more often.
Posted 10 years agoA few different things have sparked this sudden interest. Part of it was the discovery of a new Fire Emblem TCG while searching for news about Fates (a game I'm very excited about). Another part was watching a stream of Yu-Gi-Oh! Legacy of the Duelist.
This is making me want to try deckbuilding and maybe even testing out my creations on dueling simulators. Not sure where to begin, though.
This is making me want to try deckbuilding and maybe even testing out my creations on dueling simulators. Not sure where to begin, though.
Thinking about making a pokésona
Posted 10 years agoI've been a bit sick and listless lately, which has given me plenty of time to think about things I wouldn't normally. This time it was about pokésonas. As self-indulgent as this might sound, I like the thought of a character that's a lot like myself in a PMD-esque world, except with more fantasy elements.
But there's one problem. Out of all the 700+ species currently in existence, which one should I pick? I've narrowed it down to several possible candidates, based partly on the fact that I like dragons and, for lack of better terms, I'd like an alligator to be my "reptilesona" and an armadillo to be my "mammalsona". Well, enough semi-coherent rambling. Here is the list:
*Totodile family
*Chespin family (pref. Chesnaught)
*Charmander family
*Drilbur family
*Goodra
Anyone who happens to see this, if you have any advice to offer about this decision, I'd appreciate it. Thanks :)
But there's one problem. Out of all the 700+ species currently in existence, which one should I pick? I've narrowed it down to several possible candidates, based partly on the fact that I like dragons and, for lack of better terms, I'd like an alligator to be my "reptilesona" and an armadillo to be my "mammalsona". Well, enough semi-coherent rambling. Here is the list:
*Totodile family
*Chespin family (pref. Chesnaught)
*Charmander family
*Drilbur family
*Goodra
Anyone who happens to see this, if you have any advice to offer about this decision, I'd appreciate it. Thanks :)
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