Just in case
Posted 2 years agoBecause of my refusal to remove the art from my gallery, because I don't believe it violates anything just the mods making dumb decisions, I may end up banned, so just in case:
https://itaku.ee/profile/raitheraichu
Follow me there if you want, I haven't gotten around to posting anything there though.
https://itaku.ee/profile/raitheraichu
Follow me there if you want, I haven't gotten around to posting anything there though.
A fair warning
Posted 2 years agoI'm almost certain I have at least one image in my gallery that could get me banned because of one of it's characters. I refuse to remove it, because the character in question is one of my favorite digimon, and through my own understanding of the character should be fine, but according to the new rules is not.
I could just remove the image, but I don't care enough to bother. If I'm banned I'm banned, and this site doesn't deserve my time or anyone else's.
I could just remove the image, but I don't care enough to bother. If I'm banned I'm banned, and this site doesn't deserve my time or anyone else's.
I'll give my thoughts on the policy update.
Posted 2 years agoLet me start by saying, I do think this was meant with good intentions, but wow this is bad.
So I'm gonna break it down one by one with what they've said and just give my thoughts on what they said.
Feel free to read it yourself in case you get something else out of it https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/10557600 that should be the link, I don't do this often.
"1. What does the rule say?
Content featuring minors is not allowed when the minor is in the presence of sexual activity, sexual objects, or nudity, though exceptions may be made for non-sexual depictions of birth and breastfeeding. Presence is defined as being in the same scene, such as sharing a comic panel, contiguous image, reference sheet, or specific section of a story where characters are engaging each other.
Minors may not have detailed bulges or outlines of normal or hyper genitalia, clothed or otherwise. Minors may not be fetishized. Minors younger than 13 may not be depicted as pregnant. Minors are defined as real or fictional humanoids with a childlike body or younger than 18 years old, and any adolescent animals or fantasy creatures."
So, there's a few issues here, and loopholes to point out, since they essentially said they've made these changes to fix the loopholes that allowed minor content.
First the presence, the issue I mainly see is that an artist could have multiple comic panels in which a minor character is alone, but could still be active in a sexual scene.
Second, minors may not be fetishized, but they can be pregnant so long as they are above 13, and regardless of age apparently can be part of vore and transformation, which as I've seen, both are heavily sexualized fetishes.
"2. When was this rule created?
The terminology of “childlike body and adolescent animals” is a clarification that went into effect on September 8th, 2015 (7+ years ago) to an already existing rule that was created on November 24th, 2010 (12+ years ago) that banned content featuring minors in sexual situations."
I don't have really any issue here, it's just telling us the rule was already here, and expressing what the rule was about. So no problem here.
"3. Why did this rule receive clarification in 2015?
While minors were banned from being in sexual content in 2010, users were still uploading children in sexual situations, saying that they were adults (e.g. 1000 year old vampire child) and therefore didn’t violate the rule as they were not minors.
At the time, Fur Affinity was owned by IMVU who had a firm stance against children presented sexually, and the rule was clarified by defining a minor as: “real or fictional humanoids with a childlike body or younger than 18 years old, and any adolescent animals.”"
Now I do have a small issue here, primarily because this more or less makes the context and intent of an artistic piece completely pointless. I don't think it was bad banning the 1000 year old vampire child thing. But it's opened the gateway to other stuff that I will talk about later.
"4. Why am I hearing about this now?
While this policy has had several small changes that were announced throughout the years, enforcement was never taken against the Pokémon or Digimon in sexual content that look like children or cubs although they violated the rules. After years of receiving user feedback via trouble tickets, we have decided to end this internal policy on July 1st, 2023."
Now here's where my primary issue, pokemon and digimon. I will elaborate further when covering the examples they've used.
"5. What Pokémon and Digimon cannot be in sexual content without being aged up?
While we cannot present an exhaustive list of thousands of characters, common canonical inclusions would be “baby Pokémon” such as Pichu, Mime Jr., Riolu, and Smoochum, other Pokémon such as Cubchoo, Cubone, Torchic, Ralts, Eevee, and Gothita, and Digmon such as Agumon, Impmon, Gatomon, and Veemon as these characters have childlike proportions or look like adolescent humans or animals."
Now I will elaborate. Pokemon and digimon do not age the same as human beings. Pokemon are essentially physically adult as soon as they hatch from their eggs since they are fully capable of immediate reproduction. Which means physically they are adult, and as will be said in the policy update, emotional/mental maturity isn't as important as physical. And if memory serves there was an episode of the pokemon anime which depicted a Pichu as being extremely elderly, despite being in the "baby" form. A Pokemon's age is not depicted by their evolution. And since pokemon can be bigger and smaller in their own species from birth, "child-like" proportions don't fucking exist in pokemon. They don't get bigger when they get older, and they don't get smaller when they're younger.
Similar issue with Digimon. They are digital beings, who essentially don't have age and do not change physically with age.
"6. What does aged up mean?
We are not concerned with whether or not a character is emotionally mature, a certain level, or evolved. The physical proportions of the character would need to be altered. It is not enough to change the size of a character. Scaling a character up or down doesn’t change its proportions. Making an adult smaller doesn’t create a child and making a child bigger doesn’t create an adult. If the character has no difference from birth to elder, you will have to draw them non-canon for them to be acceptable in sexual situations."
Now I've got a pretty big issue here. Based on what they said, an artist could make a child character, who remains a child in mind, but who's body is adult, and have them sexualized without issue, because emotional maturity doesn't matter. And really this creates a big problem in which a character who is not emotionally/mentally mature, cannot give consent. Which means that if an artist created a child trapped in an adult body, and sexualized them, well now that's also non consensual. So I guess according to these rules it's okay to non con kids as long as they look adult.
"7. How do you judge proportions?
Generally speaking, as characters age, their proportions change. For humanoid characters, we compare to the proportions of humans and for feral animals we look to their earth counterparts or similar for fictional species."
My issue here goes back to pokemon and digimon in which their proportions do not change with age.
"8. What about the size or size difference between characters?
Since size is not the same as proportions, size and size difference rarely has any weight in decisions we make, whether the character is macro, micro, or several feet in difference apart in relation to each other. Corgi, otters, ponies, and other short creatures, will not be affected based upon stature alone."
Ah yes, short creatures will not be affected based upon stature alone. Even though that's essentially why the above mentioned pokemon and digimon are being targeted.
"9. What about characters without larger reproductive features?
A common misconception is that we will remove content because a character has smaller genitalia or breasts. The size of genitalia and breasts have no impact on our decisions as they may not change with age."
So do changing proportions actually matter then? I get what they are saying here, but still.
"10. What about “shortstack” and “chibi” characters in sexual content?
A shortstack character is one who is short in stature with larger than average features. Shortstack characters generally have adult proportions with short stature and would be allowed.
Chibi depicts short and cute characters with oversized heads. The chibi style is often used in media when characters are acting silly or out of character, and some of these circumstances may not be allowed if they appear too childish; however, in many situations the style of the character has a large head and small adult body and would be okay. Ultimately, body proportions are what we will be looking at when making a decision."
So again, it's okay to be short, unless you are one of the listed pokemon/digimon. And you're also allowed to be cute, unless you are one of the listed pokemon/digimon.
"11. How do you make the decision as to what content is allowed?
When content is reported, a staff member will review it based upon the criteria that we have discussed in this journal. If a cut and dry decision cannot be made, it is reviewed by a group of senior staff members for a consensus. If the content is removed and the user does not agree with the decision, it may be disputed through the ticket system, or if the user is suspended, via the email address provided to them and will be reviewed for accuracy and uniformity."
So artists are left at the mercy of random staff members? The issue here is that an art piece could be seen by one staff member and deemed fine, but then another staff member could decide it does violate the rules.
The last few don't really say anything it's just advice to users so I won't bother with those.
But I come back to kinda the main issue: Minors cannot be sexualized or fetishized, unless it's vore, transformation, and pregnancy.
So I'm gonna break it down one by one with what they've said and just give my thoughts on what they said.
Feel free to read it yourself in case you get something else out of it https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/10557600 that should be the link, I don't do this often.
"1. What does the rule say?
Content featuring minors is not allowed when the minor is in the presence of sexual activity, sexual objects, or nudity, though exceptions may be made for non-sexual depictions of birth and breastfeeding. Presence is defined as being in the same scene, such as sharing a comic panel, contiguous image, reference sheet, or specific section of a story where characters are engaging each other.
Minors may not have detailed bulges or outlines of normal or hyper genitalia, clothed or otherwise. Minors may not be fetishized. Minors younger than 13 may not be depicted as pregnant. Minors are defined as real or fictional humanoids with a childlike body or younger than 18 years old, and any adolescent animals or fantasy creatures."
So, there's a few issues here, and loopholes to point out, since they essentially said they've made these changes to fix the loopholes that allowed minor content.
First the presence, the issue I mainly see is that an artist could have multiple comic panels in which a minor character is alone, but could still be active in a sexual scene.
Second, minors may not be fetishized, but they can be pregnant so long as they are above 13, and regardless of age apparently can be part of vore and transformation, which as I've seen, both are heavily sexualized fetishes.
"2. When was this rule created?
The terminology of “childlike body and adolescent animals” is a clarification that went into effect on September 8th, 2015 (7+ years ago) to an already existing rule that was created on November 24th, 2010 (12+ years ago) that banned content featuring minors in sexual situations."
I don't have really any issue here, it's just telling us the rule was already here, and expressing what the rule was about. So no problem here.
"3. Why did this rule receive clarification in 2015?
While minors were banned from being in sexual content in 2010, users were still uploading children in sexual situations, saying that they were adults (e.g. 1000 year old vampire child) and therefore didn’t violate the rule as they were not minors.
At the time, Fur Affinity was owned by IMVU who had a firm stance against children presented sexually, and the rule was clarified by defining a minor as: “real or fictional humanoids with a childlike body or younger than 18 years old, and any adolescent animals.”"
Now I do have a small issue here, primarily because this more or less makes the context and intent of an artistic piece completely pointless. I don't think it was bad banning the 1000 year old vampire child thing. But it's opened the gateway to other stuff that I will talk about later.
"4. Why am I hearing about this now?
While this policy has had several small changes that were announced throughout the years, enforcement was never taken against the Pokémon or Digimon in sexual content that look like children or cubs although they violated the rules. After years of receiving user feedback via trouble tickets, we have decided to end this internal policy on July 1st, 2023."
Now here's where my primary issue, pokemon and digimon. I will elaborate further when covering the examples they've used.
"5. What Pokémon and Digimon cannot be in sexual content without being aged up?
While we cannot present an exhaustive list of thousands of characters, common canonical inclusions would be “baby Pokémon” such as Pichu, Mime Jr., Riolu, and Smoochum, other Pokémon such as Cubchoo, Cubone, Torchic, Ralts, Eevee, and Gothita, and Digmon such as Agumon, Impmon, Gatomon, and Veemon as these characters have childlike proportions or look like adolescent humans or animals."
Now I will elaborate. Pokemon and digimon do not age the same as human beings. Pokemon are essentially physically adult as soon as they hatch from their eggs since they are fully capable of immediate reproduction. Which means physically they are adult, and as will be said in the policy update, emotional/mental maturity isn't as important as physical. And if memory serves there was an episode of the pokemon anime which depicted a Pichu as being extremely elderly, despite being in the "baby" form. A Pokemon's age is not depicted by their evolution. And since pokemon can be bigger and smaller in their own species from birth, "child-like" proportions don't fucking exist in pokemon. They don't get bigger when they get older, and they don't get smaller when they're younger.
Similar issue with Digimon. They are digital beings, who essentially don't have age and do not change physically with age.
"6. What does aged up mean?
We are not concerned with whether or not a character is emotionally mature, a certain level, or evolved. The physical proportions of the character would need to be altered. It is not enough to change the size of a character. Scaling a character up or down doesn’t change its proportions. Making an adult smaller doesn’t create a child and making a child bigger doesn’t create an adult. If the character has no difference from birth to elder, you will have to draw them non-canon for them to be acceptable in sexual situations."
Now I've got a pretty big issue here. Based on what they said, an artist could make a child character, who remains a child in mind, but who's body is adult, and have them sexualized without issue, because emotional maturity doesn't matter. And really this creates a big problem in which a character who is not emotionally/mentally mature, cannot give consent. Which means that if an artist created a child trapped in an adult body, and sexualized them, well now that's also non consensual. So I guess according to these rules it's okay to non con kids as long as they look adult.
"7. How do you judge proportions?
Generally speaking, as characters age, their proportions change. For humanoid characters, we compare to the proportions of humans and for feral animals we look to their earth counterparts or similar for fictional species."
My issue here goes back to pokemon and digimon in which their proportions do not change with age.
"8. What about the size or size difference between characters?
Since size is not the same as proportions, size and size difference rarely has any weight in decisions we make, whether the character is macro, micro, or several feet in difference apart in relation to each other. Corgi, otters, ponies, and other short creatures, will not be affected based upon stature alone."
Ah yes, short creatures will not be affected based upon stature alone. Even though that's essentially why the above mentioned pokemon and digimon are being targeted.
"9. What about characters without larger reproductive features?
A common misconception is that we will remove content because a character has smaller genitalia or breasts. The size of genitalia and breasts have no impact on our decisions as they may not change with age."
So do changing proportions actually matter then? I get what they are saying here, but still.
"10. What about “shortstack” and “chibi” characters in sexual content?
A shortstack character is one who is short in stature with larger than average features. Shortstack characters generally have adult proportions with short stature and would be allowed.
Chibi depicts short and cute characters with oversized heads. The chibi style is often used in media when characters are acting silly or out of character, and some of these circumstances may not be allowed if they appear too childish; however, in many situations the style of the character has a large head and small adult body and would be okay. Ultimately, body proportions are what we will be looking at when making a decision."
So again, it's okay to be short, unless you are one of the listed pokemon/digimon. And you're also allowed to be cute, unless you are one of the listed pokemon/digimon.
"11. How do you make the decision as to what content is allowed?
When content is reported, a staff member will review it based upon the criteria that we have discussed in this journal. If a cut and dry decision cannot be made, it is reviewed by a group of senior staff members for a consensus. If the content is removed and the user does not agree with the decision, it may be disputed through the ticket system, or if the user is suspended, via the email address provided to them and will be reviewed for accuracy and uniformity."
So artists are left at the mercy of random staff members? The issue here is that an art piece could be seen by one staff member and deemed fine, but then another staff member could decide it does violate the rules.
The last few don't really say anything it's just advice to users so I won't bother with those.
But I come back to kinda the main issue: Minors cannot be sexualized or fetishized, unless it's vore, transformation, and pregnancy.
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