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Patreon idiots (G)
2 weeks ago
Hopefully this doesn't come across as moaning about not being as successful as others (though I'm not a BIG fan of my work at times, and have.. well, issues which lead to this and not being as much content as I would like) and I know one thing that would help me is to be more 'social' so more people are aware of my work and stuff cause some artists who aren't as good, are more popular because they are more social, post in more places to get noticed etc.. but this isn't about this.. Just want to get it out in the open that I'm not trying to do something where it's a cause of I'm moaning because of other people being a success where I'm not.
Has anyone else noticed that amount of major thieves going around in the adult art field? I see alot of videos posted on sites which I think, I know that artist/animator.. and you aren't them.. then see it's someone with a Patreon account who just re-uploads other peoples work, sticks on a there own patreon account ID and says "give me money and I'll re-post more of other peoples work". some try to make it 'different' by having a poorly designed and rendered 3D image in the corner which is meant to be 'giving comment' but most of the time just stands there (hell, there was a very successful 'reaction' couple who were finally caught about the fact that there video in the corner was in fact a png and was of course, like most of these 'reactioners' was stealing the whole video, and making money from it.
Sometimes they would directly take content which are behind a patreon 'pay wall' by an artist and share it cause their 'supporters' are paying them to joining various accounts, steal content and repost it, taking money and support away from the creator.
I can't stand this. It's like for both legal but mostly ETHICAL reasons, My own Patreon is for my Original content. You will NEVER find say Tikal Fan art there. I do not own the character. doing 'Fan art' is Techinally legally in a grey area as it is but charging people for it on my Patreon is 100% illegal and unethical. I try to make money on my own ORIGINAL creations. Any fan-art or characters I don't have permission to use, Is only on my free stuff and basically is in my free time, which in theory, my paid work gives me time to work on.. In reality, I get very little feed back on my original work and little support. I really like all the support I do get, even if it's only one or two people saying something once or twice a year, but it's very little.. Oh well. I don't expect people to like my work or stuff, I just would like it. I also go slower then I would like cause it can be a real choir for me to get energy to do stuff (depression is a bugger and meds only go soo far) and sometimes I can draw something, I'm soo NOT happy with it cause I'm just not in the mood, that i end up dumping it for a while cause I can't get back to it just to do something crap and useless and I get stuck in a "I'm useless and crap at everything I do, so why should I bother?" and sadly too little people to try to help me out of it.. not that it's just like TV where you say "Oh, you aren't that bad, cheer up" and that somehow saves the day.. In fact, sometimes that can make it worse cause It leads to "You are only saying that cause you know I have depression so you are pretending my work is better than it is"..
anyway.. kinda don't want to go into that right now.
It's more about how many people are just directly stealing from content creators and then having the nerve to make money, often way more then the original creator is, from that. years ago, I've seen some stuff I did stolen and posted on some art thief sites (art/games) where it had feedback and support which I never got directly. And of course, such sites have both third party and direct advert support (third party as in they just sign up to something like Google ads, and direct where they sell 'advertise on this place' to people who then support it) so they are creating nothing while profiting from it, yet the original creators of these works often are making piss all or often not even getting to know people like their work! If you want to look into history on this, there have been a number of people who have killed themselves cause they didn't know they had support and fans, and couldn't make a living, only for people to find out that others were making money and supporting them, but they never knew it... sigh..
every so often, I have tried to engage with people, just to be nice and maybe be friends with fellow artists who have some of the same problems, only for them to not give a damn. There are artists who have also moaned about having depression and not one really caring about them, I post comments saying hi, I like there work (I won't say that if I don't mind it.. and sometimes I will say I like how some bits work but not quite on other bits (like I don't like people drawing small breasted characters with insanely huge tits, but sometimes they art is still nice, so I say that) and Do I get a reply? nope.. they just .. what is called 'ghosting' for some reason. Then go on posting how they are depressed and no-one likes them.. and I just think, fuck you then. I try to reach out, it's not easy for me, but I try and in return you throw it back in my face. I will bother only so far.
This is why I try to reply to every comment I normally get. Not 100% cause sometimes there is just nothing to say, but I try. I remember when I was a kid and got my letter in print in a popular comic book in the UK.. It was a big deal for me. Okay, they rewrote it alot but it meant something back then. If I talk to someone and they just ignore me, I feel a bit bad. So I don't like to put someone else in that situration, so when someone who has simular issues reaches out, and I try to reply, I atleast expect a 'hi'..
That said, not getting a reply in such cases is kinda a problem with me.. I have, at times, had to e-mail people who I see as 'big and famous' and I don't mind too much if they don't reply.. they are a big and famous person and I'm a nobody so why should I expect them to take the time out of their day to bother with me. But when they ask people to contact them, I feel it's very rude when they don't atleast try. I have this same issue with people on eBay.. If you put something up for sale with a 'make an offer' on it, and I put in an offer, you have 24 hours to reply (or was it 48? I think 24).. you can do one of four things. You can reject my offer. You can accept my offer, you can counter my offer or you can do bugger all. For me, that last one isn't an option. You ASKED for an offer. I gave it. DO SOMETHING. Personally? I prefer accept or counter. Just rejecting is a bit annoying cause I don't know how far off what YOU think is reasonable I am and it would be nice to know so I could try to come up with a better offer. Sometimes I've gotten counters and have accepted. Sometimes I have countered that counter. That's how things work. But to ask for someone to contact you and then just ignore them? ... I try not to take it personally, but at times, how can I see it as anything BUT personal?
these thieves who take your content and make money off it without permission or anything, even if they think having a poorly rendered drag and drop 3d model in the corner just standing there all the way through (which by the way, commentery doesn't allow you to copy the WHOLE video. even if it's a bit short. I can do my own fan commetery track on a movie and have the whole movie playing (as a video) in the background. I can have some of the audio or clips, but I need to do about 75% of the work so that much is my own content. I know some people who do fan commetary' for films. they just upload them videos with the audio, which is muted and mostly just them talking. Like decent audio commetery on dvds.. So they are creating the majority of the content.)
anyway, these people that do that stealing, how can you not take it personal that they want to screw you over, punish you for your work. People moan about taxes taking the money from the workers, but I don't think of any tax that takes THAT much. Even an agent only takes 5-10% commission.
Sorry for spelling errors, as normal. but annolyy, what I use to type this in can point out spelling mistakes but can't correct them.. which is meant to be cause the license for a spell checker would cost alot more, yet it HAS a spell checker cause it'll point out the mistakes.. weird..
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Has anyone else noticed that amount of major thieves going around in the adult art field? I see alot of videos posted on sites which I think, I know that artist/animator.. and you aren't them.. then see it's someone with a Patreon account who just re-uploads other peoples work, sticks on a there own patreon account ID and says "give me money and I'll re-post more of other peoples work". some try to make it 'different' by having a poorly designed and rendered 3D image in the corner which is meant to be 'giving comment' but most of the time just stands there (hell, there was a very successful 'reaction' couple who were finally caught about the fact that there video in the corner was in fact a png and was of course, like most of these 'reactioners' was stealing the whole video, and making money from it.
Sometimes they would directly take content which are behind a patreon 'pay wall' by an artist and share it cause their 'supporters' are paying them to joining various accounts, steal content and repost it, taking money and support away from the creator.
I can't stand this. It's like for both legal but mostly ETHICAL reasons, My own Patreon is for my Original content. You will NEVER find say Tikal Fan art there. I do not own the character. doing 'Fan art' is Techinally legally in a grey area as it is but charging people for it on my Patreon is 100% illegal and unethical. I try to make money on my own ORIGINAL creations. Any fan-art or characters I don't have permission to use, Is only on my free stuff and basically is in my free time, which in theory, my paid work gives me time to work on.. In reality, I get very little feed back on my original work and little support. I really like all the support I do get, even if it's only one or two people saying something once or twice a year, but it's very little.. Oh well. I don't expect people to like my work or stuff, I just would like it. I also go slower then I would like cause it can be a real choir for me to get energy to do stuff (depression is a bugger and meds only go soo far) and sometimes I can draw something, I'm soo NOT happy with it cause I'm just not in the mood, that i end up dumping it for a while cause I can't get back to it just to do something crap and useless and I get stuck in a "I'm useless and crap at everything I do, so why should I bother?" and sadly too little people to try to help me out of it.. not that it's just like TV where you say "Oh, you aren't that bad, cheer up" and that somehow saves the day.. In fact, sometimes that can make it worse cause It leads to "You are only saying that cause you know I have depression so you are pretending my work is better than it is"..
anyway.. kinda don't want to go into that right now.
It's more about how many people are just directly stealing from content creators and then having the nerve to make money, often way more then the original creator is, from that. years ago, I've seen some stuff I did stolen and posted on some art thief sites (art/games) where it had feedback and support which I never got directly. And of course, such sites have both third party and direct advert support (third party as in they just sign up to something like Google ads, and direct where they sell 'advertise on this place' to people who then support it) so they are creating nothing while profiting from it, yet the original creators of these works often are making piss all or often not even getting to know people like their work! If you want to look into history on this, there have been a number of people who have killed themselves cause they didn't know they had support and fans, and couldn't make a living, only for people to find out that others were making money and supporting them, but they never knew it... sigh..
every so often, I have tried to engage with people, just to be nice and maybe be friends with fellow artists who have some of the same problems, only for them to not give a damn. There are artists who have also moaned about having depression and not one really caring about them, I post comments saying hi, I like there work (I won't say that if I don't mind it.. and sometimes I will say I like how some bits work but not quite on other bits (like I don't like people drawing small breasted characters with insanely huge tits, but sometimes they art is still nice, so I say that) and Do I get a reply? nope.. they just .. what is called 'ghosting' for some reason. Then go on posting how they are depressed and no-one likes them.. and I just think, fuck you then. I try to reach out, it's not easy for me, but I try and in return you throw it back in my face. I will bother only so far.
This is why I try to reply to every comment I normally get. Not 100% cause sometimes there is just nothing to say, but I try. I remember when I was a kid and got my letter in print in a popular comic book in the UK.. It was a big deal for me. Okay, they rewrote it alot but it meant something back then. If I talk to someone and they just ignore me, I feel a bit bad. So I don't like to put someone else in that situration, so when someone who has simular issues reaches out, and I try to reply, I atleast expect a 'hi'..
That said, not getting a reply in such cases is kinda a problem with me.. I have, at times, had to e-mail people who I see as 'big and famous' and I don't mind too much if they don't reply.. they are a big and famous person and I'm a nobody so why should I expect them to take the time out of their day to bother with me. But when they ask people to contact them, I feel it's very rude when they don't atleast try. I have this same issue with people on eBay.. If you put something up for sale with a 'make an offer' on it, and I put in an offer, you have 24 hours to reply (or was it 48? I think 24).. you can do one of four things. You can reject my offer. You can accept my offer, you can counter my offer or you can do bugger all. For me, that last one isn't an option. You ASKED for an offer. I gave it. DO SOMETHING. Personally? I prefer accept or counter. Just rejecting is a bit annoying cause I don't know how far off what YOU think is reasonable I am and it would be nice to know so I could try to come up with a better offer. Sometimes I've gotten counters and have accepted. Sometimes I have countered that counter. That's how things work. But to ask for someone to contact you and then just ignore them? ... I try not to take it personally, but at times, how can I see it as anything BUT personal?
these thieves who take your content and make money off it without permission or anything, even if they think having a poorly rendered drag and drop 3d model in the corner just standing there all the way through (which by the way, commentery doesn't allow you to copy the WHOLE video. even if it's a bit short. I can do my own fan commetery track on a movie and have the whole movie playing (as a video) in the background. I can have some of the audio or clips, but I need to do about 75% of the work so that much is my own content. I know some people who do fan commetary' for films. they just upload them videos with the audio, which is muted and mostly just them talking. Like decent audio commetery on dvds.. So they are creating the majority of the content.)
anyway, these people that do that stealing, how can you not take it personal that they want to screw you over, punish you for your work. People moan about taxes taking the money from the workers, but I don't think of any tax that takes THAT much. Even an agent only takes 5-10% commission.
Sorry for spelling errors, as normal. but annolyy, what I use to type this in can point out spelling mistakes but can't correct them.. which is meant to be cause the license for a spell checker would cost alot more, yet it HAS a spell checker cause it'll point out the mistakes.. weird..
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