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Digital Artist | Registered: Sep 16, 2011 12:27
WE HAVE LEFT FA, MORE INFO ON TUMBLR
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for commissions, you can do so at our off-site galleries:
WEASYL: TwoFancyOwls
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⬛⬛⬛ Removing all of our artwork from FA ⬛⬛⬛
10 years ago
Hey guys! Long time to see (at least on FA). I know that when we left FA a little over a year ago, we stated that we would leave our gallery in tact via our scraps section. Unfortunately, due to further changes on FA and in what will by necessity become changes in FA's policies when upcoming IMVU integration takes place, we're not really cool with having our art around anymore.
Yes, I know, Dragoneer has promised you nothing will change, but the fact of the matter is, he doesn't know if what he promises is true and by the nature of user driven content sites and cross promotional moves, IMVU will need the rights to use your work as it sees fit. He is not an owner of FA anymore, he just overlooks the site for his bosses now. He has no real decision making power, not that he's used it for the betterment of the site in the past. The fact that he is so willing to tout these things deeply concerns us. The consequences of him being in way over his head and his inability to fully understand the legalities of what's going on and IMVU's business practices are real and tangible. We don't trust him to be able to protect us and the use and rights of our art, whether he wanted to or not.
It is easy to blow this off as paranoia by the inexperienced, but the fact of the matter is, this has happened before to creators of IMVU art. Not just once or twice, but a lot. Every IMVU ad contains significant amount of creator produced work and these creators where never informed and outright left by how these things have been dealt with. One of us has been a victim of this as well in advertising and promotional kerfuffles and we just don't really want to hop on or even acknowledge that particular ride again. Even if Dragoneer wasn't practicing ventriloquism with is ass on the matter and he had a very long record of being a trustworthy, well meaning and honest site owner; If any of you have been part of the IMVU community for any amount of time, you're probably also very familiar with how completely untrustworthy they are with even their own policies and how often they have changed them behind people's backs after suckering people in with the initial policy.
We're not really here to start any arguments or conversations about this and we're not advocating action from anyone. Honestly, if you don't care about any of this stuff, the likely firing of Dragoneer in a year's time can only be good for the site. There are already plenty of conversations happening here on FA that are very much worth a complete read (not just 1-3 pages): https://forums.furaffinity.net/thre.....MVU-Discussion as well as on IMVU themselves (if you can find one that hasn't been locked). We just wanted to provide a quick explanation as to why we don't want our art around anymore, especially while it isn't being monitored.
That said. We will be leaving our work up in it's current state for at least two days. After which we will begin the process of deleting or redirecting the work to where it can now be found (likely mostly weasyl links). This will probably be done over the course of a week. We won't be doing a mass dump onto either site, so a lot of this work is just going to be outright deleted. If you have a commission in our gallery or happen to like a piece that doesn't exist on weasyl or tumblr, save the work for yourself now. If you have a commission that hasn't already been reposted to our weasyl, you can contact us via weasyl and ask to have it re-uploaded there! We also have a journal dedicated to requesting to have things added to your collections linked on our front page.
Tumblr: http://twofancyowls.tumblr.com/
Weasyl: https://www.weasyl.com/~twofancyowls
And of course, our non-furry stuff can be found where it's always been :P All this info is on our weasyl. Thanks for the reading and best of luck with wherever this is going if you're still around!
We will not be responding to people in our journal about this. If you wish to talk with us about it, you are welcome to do so here: https://www.weasyl.com/journal/8064.....rtwork-from-fa
Yes, I know, Dragoneer has promised you nothing will change, but the fact of the matter is, he doesn't know if what he promises is true and by the nature of user driven content sites and cross promotional moves, IMVU will need the rights to use your work as it sees fit. He is not an owner of FA anymore, he just overlooks the site for his bosses now. He has no real decision making power, not that he's used it for the betterment of the site in the past. The fact that he is so willing to tout these things deeply concerns us. The consequences of him being in way over his head and his inability to fully understand the legalities of what's going on and IMVU's business practices are real and tangible. We don't trust him to be able to protect us and the use and rights of our art, whether he wanted to or not.
It is easy to blow this off as paranoia by the inexperienced, but the fact of the matter is, this has happened before to creators of IMVU art. Not just once or twice, but a lot. Every IMVU ad contains significant amount of creator produced work and these creators where never informed and outright left by how these things have been dealt with. One of us has been a victim of this as well in advertising and promotional kerfuffles and we just don't really want to hop on or even acknowledge that particular ride again. Even if Dragoneer wasn't practicing ventriloquism with is ass on the matter and he had a very long record of being a trustworthy, well meaning and honest site owner; If any of you have been part of the IMVU community for any amount of time, you're probably also very familiar with how completely untrustworthy they are with even their own policies and how often they have changed them behind people's backs after suckering people in with the initial policy.
We're not really here to start any arguments or conversations about this and we're not advocating action from anyone. Honestly, if you don't care about any of this stuff, the likely firing of Dragoneer in a year's time can only be good for the site. There are already plenty of conversations happening here on FA that are very much worth a complete read (not just 1-3 pages): https://forums.furaffinity.net/thre.....MVU-Discussion as well as on IMVU themselves (if you can find one that hasn't been locked). We just wanted to provide a quick explanation as to why we don't want our art around anymore, especially while it isn't being monitored.
That said. We will be leaving our work up in it's current state for at least two days. After which we will begin the process of deleting or redirecting the work to where it can now be found (likely mostly weasyl links). This will probably be done over the course of a week. We won't be doing a mass dump onto either site, so a lot of this work is just going to be outright deleted. If you have a commission in our gallery or happen to like a piece that doesn't exist on weasyl or tumblr, save the work for yourself now. If you have a commission that hasn't already been reposted to our weasyl, you can contact us via weasyl and ask to have it re-uploaded there! We also have a journal dedicated to requesting to have things added to your collections linked on our front page.
Tumblr: http://twofancyowls.tumblr.com/
Weasyl: https://www.weasyl.com/~twofancyowls
And of course, our non-furry stuff can be found where it's always been :P All this info is on our weasyl. Thanks for the reading and best of luck with wherever this is going if you're still around!
We will not be responding to people in our journal about this. If you wish to talk with us about it, you are welcome to do so here: https://www.weasyl.com/journal/8064.....rtwork-from-fa
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