First: shout-out to those artists who are down to draw these far-past-the-point-of-insanity fetishes once in a while. You guys make my dreams come true.

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It's hard to commission post-vore disposal and macro scat. "Duh, commissioning extreme kink art is hard," is the reaction I expect. But this particular combination of kinks is different from something like diaperfurs, latex, or gore: in those cases you have a fairly public, if small, market of people drawing the stuff. With post vore disposal and macro scat (Particularly when all three are combined) there is pretty much no market at all. It's a scavenger hunt. While I *am* complaining here, that's not the only point of the journal. I also think it's an interesting study about what makes this little community tick.

One of the main problems with commissioning post-vore disposal is the fact that it's vore related. Vore is very difficult to commission in general. That's not because it's particularly "extreme" - Vore is one of the most popular fetishes in the fandom, with cross-over from all kinds of other interests such as macros, dragons, sizeplay, goo, TF. Yeesh. It has enormous demand and slots from the best artists are extremely competitive to obtain. At the same time many of the best artists work largely out of personal interest, and you can't really commission them. They don't really go around drawing whatever random crap people ask for in exchange for $$$. I don't see anything blameworthy about this of course - I'd absolutely do the same thing in their position. The reason is not that they're bad people, but that vore art is very much focused on certain tropes. I'd contrast vore art with macro art, which is not as hard to commission in my opinion. Any artist with good figure drawing skills can pull off a pretty good macro piece by simply drawing a nice city background. With vore art, the artist has to be experience with specific artistic tropes, such as maw anatomy and fleshy guts. Yes there are macro tropes like fleeing civilians, building damage, etc. but they're not quite as essential. On top of that, a few artists like Nommz and Teaselbone are doing huge volumes of very professional work that provides a relief on total demand for macro art. I can't think of anyone comparable to them among vore artists.

Now talking about scat is where things get interesting. This is where the original complaint "commissioning extreme kink art is hard" sort of breaks down... The average scat artist seems more likely to take regular commissions than the average vore artist, and it's not too hard to commission the best scat artists out there. Here's the rub: most scat artists are -extraordinarily- sensitive about their subject matter, meaning they will NOT draw anything outside of their very narrowly defined comfort zone. Some of the many focuses I've seen are are diapers, fat-furs, same-size consensual, and quads/non-anthro. And while the artists are great at these things and I'm sure they would totally tear it to pieces if they attempted some of the fetish pieces I requested, they will refuse to do it. Even if they're not totally pigeonholed in one particular aspect, some scat artists will refuse anything non-con, some refuse anything macro, some will refuse anything with vore.

Even vore/macro/generalist artists who might consider drawing something outside their comfort zone also need to swallow this: you're looking at extremely niche interest, and although the people who like it are REALLY going to like it, it's not an efficient way to build up your follower and +fav count, if those things are important to you.

So that's the supply side, i.e. artists. Turning to the demand side, there are several more interesting factors coming into play. First, commissioners of this stuff are fairly introverted. It's not always easy to talk frankly with these people, keep up on their commissions, and share information about what's working for them to build a robust network of people commissioning artwork together. The vore centric Telegram chats are heavily RP focused, people begin talking super obliquely when real shit is involved.

On top of the introversion there's a strong tendency toward outright secrecy. Obviously there's a motive for this because scat is an extreme kink the forbidden, shameful nature of it is exactly what gets us going. That applies to commissioners and artists, who might not enjoy getting associated with extreme kinks and driving away customers, and who might not want to get overloaded with requests for fetish art that takes away their creative control. This is compounded by FA's old school design which does not provide users a good way to filter artwork. This leaves artists and commissioners registering annoyingly for secondary alt accounts, which drives down traffic and makes commissioning less convenient.

However one last dynamic here is that vorarephiles are a particularly status conscious bunch, which I think is related to whole pred/prey status play intrinsic in all vore. They're usually not unfriendly but there is certainly a strong competitive streak. A commissioner who discovers an artist willing to draw some post-vore disposal has incentive to monopolize it. Finally, there's an incentive to keep the work hidden just because it gives you a fun little cache of art to share with close friends only.

If you asked me for some deeper theoretical conclusion, I'd say that the interplay of shame and status with the artwork market drives the difficulty of commissioning it.

Anyway, I suppose I nearly forgot this is still a complaint journal. Please, won't you shut up and take my money? ;w;