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I'm not precisely certain how a Venn diagram is supposed to work, but I think this accurately represents my confusion. I've encountered a statistically improbable number of people who both comment on and seem to hate vore art
I know this point has been made before, but why look at it?
I know this point has been made before, but why look at it?
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You can't please everyone, pal.
Please those you can. Unless a complaint can be appropriately dealt with, or even considered, don't give it any of your time.
It's that simple.
You've got common sense, Slate, and a good heart for wanting these individuals that DO complain to be unignored, but in this certain case, its not possible to appease them. Let them be on their way, and try not to let their idiotic justifications sway you.
Please those you can. Unless a complaint can be appropriately dealt with, or even considered, don't give it any of your time.
It's that simple.
You've got common sense, Slate, and a good heart for wanting these individuals that DO complain to be unignored, but in this certain case, its not possible to appease them. Let them be on their way, and try not to let their idiotic justifications sway you.
Watching snakes eat isn't fascinating to me, I just leave them to it. It was fascinating when I got my first snake four 1/2 years ago and watching little baby snakey gulp down her defrosted pinky but now I've got 17 of them (little baby snakey's grown up and three of the others are her babies) I just leave the food in and go do something else.
I love my snakeys and I love scaley art, go scalies!
I love my snakeys and I love scaley art, go scalies!
There is unfortunately a class of people who actively seek out things to express outrage over. They do it because it makes them feel superior, and in extreme cases, it also can give them power if they can rally other people around the outrage (politicians love doing this and McCarthyism is always a good example of that). Frequently, these are people who's lives are so empty that this is the only way they're able to find any "meaning" for their existence. They're also seeking attention and they do that by expressing outrage because they lack any true creative skills of their own. It's pretty pathetic when you think about it.
Oh, and your Venn diagram is correct.
Oh, and your Venn diagram is correct.
A sad truth: Many people aren't satisfied until they are unsatisfied. They won't find peace and calm until they have found something they dislike. And most of them also have to transform a feather into 5 chickens. They simply just can't let a topic be alone, they have to infest it with their own despise, just so they can feel they have done something for the world.
That kind of people will you find everywhere. They love to make critism, but themself never do anything. The ones who don't do anything are always the ones who try to pull you down. And like I said, it's sad. Sad to see how low certain people can go.
Makes you wonder sometimes, doesn't it? About the ignorance that flows in the veins of so many people.
But don't forget that you also have a wall of supporters too.
That kind of people will you find everywhere. They love to make critism, but themself never do anything. The ones who don't do anything are always the ones who try to pull you down. And like I said, it's sad. Sad to see how low certain people can go.
Makes you wonder sometimes, doesn't it? About the ignorance that flows in the veins of so many people.
But don't forget that you also have a wall of supporters too.
As one scientist to the next, You could further test this phenominon by doing one of two things-
1- Draw a nice teaparty scene or anything innocuous like that with a short description at the bottom after all the other expositions tating "everyone died shortly thereafter- the dragon choked on the foxtaur in a failed vore attempt, the fox suffocated head-first in the dragon, the wolf was allergic to the cookies, the dragoness died from shock, the turtle was struck by a meteor...", because some people seemed to complain simply because you implied (yet didn't outright state) the fox died at the end of "Change of Plans", (Even though you could read it differently)... If you do this, you should be able to get twice the reaction, at least.
2- Draw an image featuring every horrible fetish you can think of. Think sadomasochistic dragonherm rapist butchers from mars, but then tack on as many public-outrage inducing kinks as you can. Make them underage, diaper-clad, drug-abusing, pregnant, zoophilic, tax-and-draft-evading satanic communists too!
1- Draw a nice teaparty scene or anything innocuous like that with a short description at the bottom after all the other expositions tating "everyone died shortly thereafter- the dragon choked on the foxtaur in a failed vore attempt, the fox suffocated head-first in the dragon, the wolf was allergic to the cookies, the dragoness died from shock, the turtle was struck by a meteor...", because some people seemed to complain simply because you implied (yet didn't outright state) the fox died at the end of "Change of Plans", (Even though you could read it differently)... If you do this, you should be able to get twice the reaction, at least.
2- Draw an image featuring every horrible fetish you can think of. Think sadomasochistic dragonherm rapist butchers from mars, but then tack on as many public-outrage inducing kinks as you can. Make them underage, diaper-clad, drug-abusing, pregnant, zoophilic, tax-and-draft-evading satanic communists too!
I so wholly applaud this suggestion, an just -have- to add to it. The hilarity that would ensue would make everything worth it. Not to mention that the tea party would have a dragon an other sexy furs -not- yet dead as the description mentions.. so those of us with level heads could enjoy the artwork -and- make fun of those too insecure or unintelligent to look away when it's something they hate. ;}
But yeah.. seriously.. don't worry about the hate comments, with the exception of those
scottc mentioned, since those are nice enough to admit a distaste for vore, but a love for your artstyle. Those're keepers. Heck.. do like some artists do. You get enough people who dislike vore -and- still look at your pictures an comment badly.. start poking fun at them! Don't just let their hate bring you down.. find ways to have fun with it, so you come out feeling better, an they get nothing since you didn't buckle or get equally pissed off back at them, as they originally wanted. :}
But yeah.. seriously.. don't worry about the hate comments, with the exception of those
scottc mentioned, since those are nice enough to admit a distaste for vore, but a love for your artstyle. Those're keepers. Heck.. do like some artists do. You get enough people who dislike vore -and- still look at your pictures an comment badly.. start poking fun at them! Don't just let their hate bring you down.. find ways to have fun with it, so you come out feeling better, an they get nothing since you didn't buckle or get equally pissed off back at them, as they originally wanted. :}
I'm sure lots of people would click on it if he marked it mature and applied a thumbnail to make it look like the picture itself wasw going to be sexy- that Red Border is really eye catching to most people,and it would still be technically mature to the people who care about that sort of thing, as everyone DOES die in it, supposedly.
It might simply be because you are fucking amazing at art and dragons. Just a thought.
Like, your last pic, I knew it was a vore pic just from the thumbnail (not into vore, myself, btw) but I still opened it because I think your art is always worth at least a look, even if it's something I disagree with like vore (although I didn't comment on it, which is probably more what you're talking about here.)
Like, your last pic, I knew it was a vore pic just from the thumbnail (not into vore, myself, btw) but I still opened it because I think your art is always worth at least a look, even if it's something I disagree with like vore (although I didn't comment on it, which is probably more what you're talking about here.)
I guess... people who don't care for it or find it "meh" don't bother looking at it, or pass it over.
People who hate it ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE THEIR OPINION HEARD AS TO WHY IT IS WRONG AND I BELIEVE THIS BECAUSE BLAH BLAH BLAH CAPS LOCK.
And people who like it must offer up their illustrious comments ("taht's hawt").
It's a beautiful world.
People who hate it ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE THEIR OPINION HEARD AS TO WHY IT IS WRONG AND I BELIEVE THIS BECAUSE BLAH BLAH BLAH CAPS LOCK.
And people who like it must offer up their illustrious comments ("taht's hawt").
It's a beautiful world.
I think it really boils down to them disliking certain things going on in certain vore art pictures. Perhaps they feel strongly to a certain creature being vored which they don't like vs another creature being vored that they really don't care much for.
Or possibly I'm giving people too much credit *shrugs*.
Or possibly I'm giving people too much credit *shrugs*.
see, i'm guilty of the middle party, and i've probably commented on it before
the social stigma of admitting to enjoying a certain kink within the furry fandom doesn't always stick well with some
i have the utmost respect for people that enjoy cub art. i think no less of them as a person because of it. but i know that in the 'real world', cub art is way uncool. and if i found myself enjoying cub art? i wouldn't readily admit it, because of the stigma that it'd be a catalyst to provide.
same with vore art. vore is one of those concepts you either like or dislike. if you're in the latter category, it's easy to find humour in the absurdity of the subject matter itself, and, effectively, in the people who enjoy it.
then one day, i saw some of your voreses.
and i got a boner.
so i was all GODDAMMIT SLATE STOP MAKING VORE HOT
the social stigma of admitting to enjoying a certain kink within the furry fandom doesn't always stick well with some
i have the utmost respect for people that enjoy cub art. i think no less of them as a person because of it. but i know that in the 'real world', cub art is way uncool. and if i found myself enjoying cub art? i wouldn't readily admit it, because of the stigma that it'd be a catalyst to provide.
same with vore art. vore is one of those concepts you either like or dislike. if you're in the latter category, it's easy to find humour in the absurdity of the subject matter itself, and, effectively, in the people who enjoy it.
then one day, i saw some of your voreses.
and i got a boner.
so i was all GODDAMMIT SLATE STOP MAKING VORE HOT
*grin* Reminds me of some dialogue from Howard Stern's "Private Parts":
Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes a day. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.
Pig Vomit: How could this be?
Researcher: Answer most commonly given: "I want to see what he'll say next."
Pig Vomit: All right, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?
Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.
Pig Vomit: But... if they hate him, why do they listen?
Researcher: Most common answer: "I want to see what he'll say next."
We seek out that which is taboo, mainly because it *is* taboo.
Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes a day. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.
Pig Vomit: How could this be?
Researcher: Answer most commonly given: "I want to see what he'll say next."
Pig Vomit: All right, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?
Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.
Pig Vomit: But... if they hate him, why do they listen?
Researcher: Most common answer: "I want to see what he'll say next."
We seek out that which is taboo, mainly because it *is* taboo.
I can't say I know exactly which incident(s) brought this about, but I can voice my own opinion in the matter.
You're going to keep getting this, because you're an outstanding artist who happens to favor a subject matter that’s controversial at best. Perhaps, rather than hating vore and looking for it regardless, they’re seeking GOOD art and finding subject matter they can’t stand.
I fall into this category, usually. I LOVE your style, enough so that I rank you among my favorite artists, and yet find one of your favorite subjects to be, at best, unattractive, at worst, truly disturbing. So I can see where someone would, say, watch your awesome little flash (which I truly wish you’d flesh out and color, and yet it’s still my all-time favorite), be completely enthralled, and then watch the little fox get nommed and flip out.
You're going to keep getting this, because you're an outstanding artist who happens to favor a subject matter that’s controversial at best. Perhaps, rather than hating vore and looking for it regardless, they’re seeking GOOD art and finding subject matter they can’t stand.
I fall into this category, usually. I LOVE your style, enough so that I rank you among my favorite artists, and yet find one of your favorite subjects to be, at best, unattractive, at worst, truly disturbing. So I can see where someone would, say, watch your awesome little flash (which I truly wish you’d flesh out and color, and yet it’s still my all-time favorite), be completely enthralled, and then watch the little fox get nommed and flip out.
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